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20160408 02:43:36< ScegfOd> hello, anyone on who cares to help a newbie with the gui? >.>
20160408 02:46:49< celticminstrel> I can try, though I'm not all that good at it myself.
20160408 02:47:19< ScegfOd> yay !
20160408 02:47:21< celticminstrel> I have done work on dialogs though, so it's not like I have no experience with it.
20160408 02:48:00< ScegfOd> basically, the list of things to log is so long that the menu needs a scrollbar
20160408 02:48:17< celticminstrel> Menu?
20160408 02:48:19< ScegfOd> it's automatically generated, but the ok/cancel buttons are not fixed below the scrollable list xD
20160408 02:48:30< ScegfOd> the logger menu I was making
20160408 02:48:42< ScegfOd> I'm almost done D:
20160408 02:49:09< celticminstrel> Maybe you're just using weird terminology. When you say "menu", I think of something where you click a button or something, and a list pops up right there - like the resolution list in the display panel.
20160408 02:49:16< celticminstrel> Or the Actions menu in-game.
20160408 02:49:36< ScegfOd> ah, yes, my terminology is probably strange
20160408 02:49:38< celticminstrel> So, what do you mean by saying they're not fixed below the scrollable list?
20160408 02:49:46< celticminstrel> Or you could show a screenshot.
20160408 02:50:04< ScegfOd> oooh that'd be perfect, how should I share said screenshot?
20160408 02:51:14< ScegfOd> that is to say, should I put it on some imageshare site and put the url here? or is google drive better...?
20160408 02:51:17< celticminstrel> Probably with an image sharing site, like tinypic or imgur. There are others too if you don't like those ones.
20160408 02:51:24< celticminstrel> Google Drive is also acceptable.
20160408 02:51:36< celticminstrel> Dropbox however is annoying.
20160408 02:51:42< ScegfOd> I like google drive, I'll try that first xD
20160408 02:51:47< celticminstrel> (Some people might have the opposite opinion of those two.)
20160408 02:54:47< ScegfOd> heheh
20160408 02:56:34< ScegfOd> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw6Ve-KUiMzsd3laRmoxVk83S1U/view?usp=sharing
20160408 02:56:54< ScegfOd> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw6Ve-KUiMzsSXBaMkh6TjR5cGM/view?usp=sharing
20160408 02:57:04< ScegfOd> those show what I'm talking about
20160408 02:57:26< celticminstrel> Ah, I see what you mean, the buttons are part of the scrolling.
20160408 02:57:35< vultraz> ah, yes
20160408 02:57:42< celticminstrel> That's because you've simply made one long dialog, and the scrollbar was added because it overflowed.
20160408 02:57:47< vultraz> ^
20160408 02:57:54< celticminstrel> You should put all those entries in a listbox or treeview widget.
20160408 02:57:56< vultraz> what you need is a listbox
20160408 02:58:06< ScegfOd> oooh
20160408 02:58:16< ScegfOd> does that simply go into the cfg then?
20160408 02:58:22< celticminstrel> I do think a treeview would be suitable too, though I think that's also a lot harder to work with. I don't really understand it myself.
20160408 02:58:27< vultraz> put the blank definition of one 'row' into the listbox
20160408 02:58:35< vultraz> then in the c++ file, generate each new row
20160408 02:58:37< celticminstrel> For a listbox, the config defines the listbox, and the format of a single row.
20160408 02:59:27< celticminstrel> One complaint I have about your dialog design is that it's not clear which radiobutton means which log level.
20160408 02:59:38< celticminstrel> A listbox should also be able to solve that, by providing a list header row.
20160408 03:00:20< ScegfOd> I agree, i got some sort of col == cols fail and thats why it ended up like that design xD
20160408 03:01:40< ScegfOd> I guess I'll go look how the preferences does it's listbox to give me a better idea of what to do~
20160408 03:01:51< ScegfOd> its*
20160408 03:02:14< ScegfOd> also thanks!
20160408 03:02:27< vultraz> prefs isn't a good reference to look at
20160408 03:02:35< vultraz> try looking at something simple
20160408 03:02:38< vultraz> like delete addons
20160408 03:02:49< celticminstrel> Or label settings. ;)
20160408 03:02:53 * celticminstrel made that one. >_>
20160408 03:03:08< celticminstrel> ...actually, I think it has no header, so maybe it's not the best reference here.
20160408 03:04:31< vultraz> headers are easy
20160408 03:04:50< ScegfOd> I started looking at "preferences_dialog.cpp"
20160408 03:04:55< ScegfOd> actually
20160408 03:04:57< ScegfOd> XD
20160408 03:05:46< ScegfOd> that delete addons sounds much better xD
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20160408 03:07:32< vultraz> yeah, don't look at preferences_dialog.cpp :P
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20160408 03:15:05< ScegfOd> ohsnap I almost completely forgot an interesting bug I found: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw6Ve-KUiMzsMzI4U0wyVnpJZ1U/view?usp=sharing
20160408 03:15:32< ScegfOd> or is it supposed to not refresh the background while you're looking at preferences?
20160408 03:18:08< celticminstrel> I think Aginor is possibly working on that.
20160408 03:20:28< vultraz> ScegfOd: you need to have set_restore(true) in your dialog's preshow function
20160408 03:21:24< celticminstrel> ...seriously?
20160408 03:21:30< celticminstrel> Why is that something you have to do manually?
20160408 03:21:41< vultraz> because Aginor made it so
20160408 03:21:44< ScegfOd> oh neat, tyvm
20160408 03:21:47< ScegfOd> lol
20160408 03:21:50< celticminstrel> BTW, did you know there's also a post_build or something?
20160408 03:22:00< vultraz> yes
20160408 03:22:13< celticminstrel> Not sure what that's useful for though.
20160408 03:23:03< ScegfOd> post show?
20160408 03:25:46< vultraz> that's different 
20160408 03:27:31< ScegfOd> gotcha
20160408 03:42:26< celticminstrel> post_build is before pre_show.
20160408 03:43:35< vultraz> build -> post_build -> pre_show -> show -> post_show
20160408 03:43:55< ScegfOd> ahh, neat
20160408 03:46:38< celticminstrel> "build" means generating it from the cfg.
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20160408 05:17:08< irker910> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master dfefb83ffd20 / data/gui/window/campaign_dialog.cfg: tcampaign_dialog: fix campaign names not being centered https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/dfefb83ffd208c4b7a19eb173499c93e184d311f
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20160408 05:21:10< irker910> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 547bf2f1df25 / images/misc/loadscreen_decor.png: Slight improvement to loadscreen decor https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/547bf2f1df2585968996fd38fb26d3539dde1f48
20160408 05:21:22< vultraz> Improved AA
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20160408 05:38:53< vultraz> ancestral: your connection is bad :|
20160408 05:39:11< ancestral> Actually, it’s good
20160408 05:39:35< ancestral> Sorry, been opening and closing my computer a lot
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20160408 05:44:05< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#9228 (master - dfefb83 : Charles Dang): The build was fixed.
20160408 05:44:05< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/121614678
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20160408 06:00:37< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#9229 (master - 547bf2f : Charles Dang): The build was fixed.
20160408 06:00:37< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/121615160
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20160408 06:00:55< vultraz> ?!
20160408 06:01:10< vultraz> good god
20160408 06:01:12< vultraz> travis passed
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20160408 06:34:21< fabi> :-)
20160408 06:35:32< Aginor> let's not break it again for a long time now :D
20160408 06:40:59< fabi> oh
20160408 06:44:50< ancestral> Travis is my friend
20160408 06:45:17< ancestral> (No, not really)
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20160408 06:46:40< Waste> Sun?
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20160408 09:21:58< loonycyborg> Aginor: I made the PR: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/645
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20160408 09:49:26< Nobun> loonycyborg: are you here?
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20160408 09:50:52< loonycyborg> yes
20160408 09:51:59< Nobun> ok... I solved the second bug you reported, but if you simply make diffs like you did until now it seems not... I'd like (if you have a bit of time... it requires not so much time) to show you and demonstrate it
20160408 09:52:38< Nobun> to make so you should make two .po file with perl wmlxgettext and my new wmlxgettext on _main.cfg of the campaign Liberty
20160408 09:52:48< Nobun> and look at that _main.cfg file
20160408 09:53:37< Nobun> with perl wmlxgettext (assuming you launch perl wmlxgettext from wesnoth source directory
20160408 09:54:51< Nobun> ./utils/wmlxgettext --domain=wesnoth-l --directory=./data/campaigns/Liberty _main.cfg > test.po
20160408 09:55:36< Nobun> and the same commands with my wmlxgettext.py (writing the complete path of wmlxgettext.py)
20160408 09:56:32< Nobun> tell me when you are ready with those two test.po files and you can read them in text editor together with reading _main.cfg file of the Liberty campaign
20160408 09:58:07< Nobun> (obliouvsly, with my wmlxgettext, call the .po file in a different way --- example test2.po :P)
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20160408 10:00:26< Nobun> (make sure you updated my sources, I committed the fix yesterday night)
20160408 10:00:51< Soliton> why don't you just post the two files or the diff...
20160408 10:01:51< Nobun> It's becouse the diff may not be helpful, I fear
20160408 10:02:28< Nobun> the main point is... I fixed the problem on my wmlxgettext, but perl wmlxgettext was broken too
20160408 10:02:48< Nobun> so the diff file would show that my wmlxgettext version forgot some additional information when it is not true
20160408 10:03:05< Nobun> this becouse perl wmlxgettext add the additional information also on the strings where it should not appear
20160408 10:03:58< Nobun> It is easyer to explain looking at the _main.cfg of Liberty to have an example of what I am saying
20160408 10:04:19< Nobun> I will post files, if you trust me loonycyborg and Soliton 
20160408 10:05:32< Nobun> I was trying to let you to verify with your eyes... nothing more
20160408 10:06:54< loonycyborg> and what exact extra info did perl wmlxgettext lose?
20160408 10:08:28< Nobun> no perl wmlxgettext don't lose, but ADD po addedinfos where it is not expected
20160408 10:08:46< Nobun> for example
20160408 10:08:53< Nobun> see the first string
20160408 10:09:01< Nobun> the msgid is "Liberty"
20160408 10:09:22< Nobun> and there is the added information for translator about "marchlanders"
20160408 10:09:37< Nobun> but it is an unexpected behaviour
20160408 10:09:53< Nobun> if you look at _main.cfg of Liberty campaign
20160408 10:10:11< Nobun> that added info is related to the description where the "marchlanders" word is actually used
20160408 10:10:35< Nobun> so perl wmlxgettext fails adding TOO MANY additional information where it is not expected,
20160408 10:10:48< Nobun> this is where my python wmlxgettext differs in this fix
20160408 10:11:20< Nobun> my version add that "marchlander" information only in the sentence where it makes sense (where "marchlanders" word is used)
20160408 10:11:32< Soliton> gfgtdf: 1.12 server restarted.
20160408 10:11:56< Nobun> (or better, it adds the additional information ONLY to the sentence it refers too and not add id to other sentences)
20160408 10:12:30 * Nobun hopes he is enough clear :/
20160408 10:13:13 * Nobun is not so good on explaining things in english :P
20160408 10:14:09< loonycyborg> ok I will check it a bit later
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20160408 10:16:14< Nobun> I'm trying to explain it also on my docs
20160408 10:17:35< Nobun> Soliton: since I'd like to purpose my wmlxgettext to be added in wesnoth core I'd like to ask you an opinion about a little corner problem
20160408 10:18:43< Soliton> sure, just ask.
20160408 10:19:12< Nobun> I am speaking about HOW it should be allowed to use the # po, # wmlxgettext (and my additional # po-override) special comments
20160408 10:19:57< Nobun> in the previous code (when the bug happens) I assumed that between # and 'po' (or other special comment) there should be at least one space
20160408 10:20:27< Nobun> but in mainline most of #po: does not use space, even if they are actually comments and not preprocessor directives
20160408 10:20:37< Soliton> i wouldn't require that space.
20160408 10:20:54< Nobun> At the moment my code doesn't require anymore that space
20160408 10:21:05< Nobun> you can use arbitrary spaces, from 0 to n
20160408 10:21:35< Nobun> to all special comments (po, wmlxgettext and the new po-override one)
20160408 10:22:04< Nobun> Elvish Hunter, however, reported me that wmllint will check, for example, only #po and # po
20160408 10:22:12< Nobun> (so zero or one space)
20160408 10:22:19< Nobun> so my other question is:
20160408 10:22:32< Nobun> better allow from zero to n spaces like I did now
20160408 10:22:52< Nobun> or to force to choose between 0 or 1 space as Elvish Hunter purposed?
20160408 10:23:37< Nobun> (obliouvsly I will extend the same rule for #wmlxgettexts and my new #po-ovverride
20160408 10:23:52< Nobun> (obliouvsly I will extend the same rule for #wmlxgettext special comment and my new #po-ovverride special comment)
20160408 10:23:52< Soliton> allow arbitrary whitespace.
20160408 10:24:01< Nobun> ok like it is now
20160408 10:24:08< Soliton> that's the rule i would expect as a user.
20160408 10:24:18< Nobun> thank a lot for your opinion :)
20160408 10:24:41< Soliton> no problem.
20160408 10:26:03< Nobun> now I will try to write in the doc that difference from perl wmlxgettext to my wmlxgettext hoping that I could explain better why the .diff file is not a good tool there (since perl wmlxgettext was bugged at that feature)
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20160408 10:49:59< Nobun> Soliton, loonycyborg: http://wmlxgettext-unoff.readthedocs.org/en/latest/enduser/comp.html#additional-comments-for-translators-are-added-to-the-right-sentence-only
20160408 10:50:35< Nobun> this is where I tried to explain the difference from my wmlxgettext and perl wmlxgettext around # po: additional info management
20160408 10:51:15< Nobun> and where I tried to explain where perl_wmlxgettext was broken and why it is GOOD that my python wmlxgettext loses some additional iformations for translator
20160408 10:51:28< Nobun> let me know if this time I was enough clear
20160408 10:51:45< Nobun> (I have some difficulties on explaining myself in English :P)
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20160408 10:54:52< Nobun> uh I noticed that I didn't update the userdoc comparison with the right flag... it is no more --scandirs but the boolean --recursive the flag you use to let wmlxgettext to implicitly search all files from a directory
20160408 10:58:12< Nobun> Soliton, loonycyborg... let me know it writing me a PM on wesnoth forum... I cannot stay anymore in IRC chat for the moment (I am registered as Nobun in wesnoth.org)
20160408 10:58:24< Nobun> see you soon
20160408 10:58:27< loonycyborg> ok
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20160408 10:59:48< wedge009> gfgtdf: Is it about the planned recruits issue? I was testing with two human players across a network as AI can do their turns pretty quickly, but if so, I'll give it a try.
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20160408 11:07:42< wedge009> gfgtdf: It didn't seem to make a difference for me. If it's another issue, let me know how I'm supposed to test it.
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20160408 11:13:10< gfgtdf> wedge009: hmm did you test withthe savefile attached in the bugreport ?
20160408 11:13:36< wedge009> gfgtdf: Wait, which bug report?
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20160408 11:13:50< gfgtdf> wedge009: https://gna.org/bugs/?22527 (ad said in the commitmessage)
20160408 11:13:53< gfgtdf> as*
20160408 11:14:11< wedge009> Oh, missed that. Completely different issue, then.
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20160408 11:14:46< wedge009> 8:58:38 am - irker652: wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 2b6442abc21d / src/ (ai/actions.cpp whiteboard/manager.cpp): attempt to fix whitboard crash during ai turn. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2b6442abc21dadf0655112c8288f6088bedb1626
20160408 11:14:46< wedge009> 8:58:50 am - gfgtdf: wedge009: can you test it ^ ?
20160408 11:15:20< gfgtdf> wedge009: yes that commit
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20160408 11:16:32< gfgtdf> wedge009: (the bugnuber not in thefirst line of the commit message soitsnot shown there)
20160408 11:16:38< gfgtdf> so it's
20160408 11:17:01< wedge009> Yeah, I'm looking at 22527 now.
20160408 11:17:10< wedge009> That's why I didn't see it before.
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20160408 11:31:37< wedge009> I know Ctrl+a toggles Accelerated Mode, but didn't Shift on its own do the same when it is held down? A recent change seems to have removed this.
20160408 11:32:06< wedge009> gfgtdf: Confirmed fixed for me.
20160408 11:32:30< gfgtdf> wedge009: ok thx
20160408 11:32:50< gfgtdf> wedge009: hmm i never used shift acceleration soi don't know
20160408 11:34:35< Soliton> yes, shift should also temporarily change acceleration. (i.e. as long as it is held down.)
20160408 11:36:03< wedge009> That's what I thought, as I used it often. Can you confirm if that function is still available for you?
20160408 11:38:36< Soliton> i can't run wesnoth here, sorry.
20160408 11:40:05< wedge009> It's okay, I think it's still working. Something weird must have happened previously.
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20160408 14:06:52< irker743> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 9cc4834070ef / / (11 files in 3 dirs): GUI2: converted horizontal scrollbars to new style https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9cc4834070ef22d985873995c6695dd32ac37b17
20160408 14:13:13< irker743> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 692502f441cd / / (34 files in 3 dirs): GUI1: fixed scrollbar layout https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/692502f441cd80b8df8424c4cedc1d5f813a5946
20160408 14:18:54< irker743> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 57c6b11fc33d / changelog: Updated changelog https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/57c6b11fc33deaa2b0234219cec8d9bd5b4f4551
20160408 14:21:35< irker743> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 016861e6b539 / changelog: Mentioned new Loadscreen https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/016861e6b539ba3c5852f7b68ebbbdc5b1c092f6
20160408 14:27:16< irker743> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master f507a4218812 / images/icons/action/ (trash_25-active.png trash_25-pressed.png trash_25.png): Added Jetrel's trashcan icon set https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f507a42188122f6f2cc31c59a0693a269fee741f
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20160408 14:53:04< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/121710470
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20160408 16:54:17< fendrin> zookeeper: I still have some graphic glitches between different sorts of water terrain. Is that a broken installation at my side? I am using current trunk.
20160408 16:58:05< zookeeper> impossible to say
20160408 16:58:25< zookeeper> i don't know what's a glitch to you
20160408 16:58:47< fendrin> I am not nitpicking.
20160408 16:58:53< fendrin> The transition is obviously broken.
20160408 16:59:01< zookeeper> well, in that case it has to be on your end
20160408 16:59:36< zookeeper> (or just mysteriously working correctly on my end, but that seems unlikely)
20160408 17:00:39< fendrin> okay, I will investigate
20160408 17:00:51< vultraz> Last I checked it worked fine for me
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20160408 17:06:09< fendrin> trunk isn't building anymore
20160408 17:06:23< fendrin> scons claims that boost thread is missing
20160408 17:06:45< fendrin> but I made sure libboost-thread-dev is installed
20160408 17:07:29< Soliton> "If a check fails spuriously due to caching, use --config=force to force its rerun"
20160408 17:07:45< fendrin> I deleted some cache file instead
20160408 17:08:36< fendrin> Soliton: Thank you
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20160408 17:12:58< loonycyborg> fendrin: So it builds for you after all?
20160408 17:13:41< fendrin> yes, it is still in prgress, but looks fine so far
20160408 17:13:50< loonycyborg> ok
20160408 17:13:59< fendrin> :-)
20160408 17:14:07< loonycyborg> Also, after we moved to git it's not trunk anymore
20160408 17:14:21< fendrin> HEAD
20160408 17:14:29< fendrin> and Master
20160408 17:14:29< celticminstrel> HEAD works, I'd use master.
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20160408 17:14:41< fendrin> Master is the branch
20160408 17:14:47< celticminstrel> Yes.
20160408 17:14:50< fendrin> while had means latest
20160408 17:14:56< fendrin> commit 
20160408 17:14:58< vultraz> HEAD is the latest commit, yes
20160408 17:15:03< fendrin> s/had/HEAD
20160408 17:15:12< celticminstrel> HEAD isn't really the latest commit.
20160408 17:15:18< celticminstrel> HEAD can be any commit whatsoever.
20160408 17:15:30< celticminstrel> On github it's the latest, I guess.
20160408 17:15:40< fendrin> hmmm
20160408 17:15:52 * fendrin confused
20160408 17:15:58< celticminstrel> HEAD is whatever commit is currently checked out in your local working copy.
20160408 17:16:36< celticminstrel> So if you check out asio_wesnothd, HEAD is the tip of that branch, not of master.
20160408 17:17:11< celticminstrel> But on github, I think HEAD if it exists is always the tip of master.
20160408 17:17:14< fendrin> Yeah. That is why I should have said: Master/HEAD instead of trunk.
20160408 17:19:04< celticminstrel> Sure whatever.
20160408 17:19:59< celticminstrel> The Twitter poll suggests that there are six out of 29 people who'd be disappointed if whiteboard is removed.
20160408 17:20:29< celticminstrel> While the forum poll has up to 10 of 50, though it's a bit harder to guess there.
20160408 17:20:44< vultraz> 20% each way
20160408 17:20:48< celticminstrel> Yup.
20160408 17:20:56< celticminstrel> That seems fairly significant to me.
20160408 17:21:47< celticminstrel> Also, I counted the "not much - bugs" votes as people who'd like to use it but can't because it's buggy. That may or may not be accurate.
20160408 17:22:31< vultraz> We're just looking for general statistics 
20160408 17:22:53< celticminstrel> We're certainly not doing a very statistically sound study here, just a vague survey...
20160408 17:24:35< vultraz> So far the data seems to stay around a consistent 20/80
20160408 17:25:02< vultraz> I expect it to be that way when the poll ends
20160408 17:25:06< celticminstrel> It's not a very large sample though; if we assumed there's no overlap, that's still only 80 people.
20160408 17:25:35< celticminstrel> Do we have an estimate of how many people actually play wesnoth?
20160408 17:26:22< vultraz> There have been 5,881 downloads of Wesnoth from sourceforge this week
20160408 17:26:50< celticminstrel> Do we have any ways of getting similar stats from Linux package managers for various distributions?
20160408 17:27:14< celticminstrel> Does that download count include both 1.12.5 and 1.13.4?
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20160408 17:27:45< vultraz> I assume it includes any download
20160408 17:28:39< celticminstrel> So, what about downloads from major Linux package managers?
20160408 17:28:51< vultraz> 56% of the downloads this week have been from Windows
20160408 17:28:55< celticminstrel> At least, say, Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, maybe a couple others.
20160408 17:29:51< vultraz> hm
20160408 17:30:00< vultraz> I just looked at our lifetime stats
20160408 17:30:07< celticminstrel> Looking on Ubuntu's package list, it doesn't seem like there's any stats there...
20160408 17:30:20< vultraz> Ever since 2012, our download count has gradually decreased
20160408 17:30:38< celticminstrel> Interesting...
20160408 17:31:43< vultraz> However, we have about 7,126,223 lifetime downloads
20160408 17:32:32< vultraz> 74% of which are from Windows
20160408 17:33:11< vultraz> Dunno how accurate these stats are, though
20160408 17:33:19< celticminstrel> Okay, for the sake of example, let's suppose Sourceforge is 50% of downloads.
20160408 17:33:37< vultraz> I guess it didn't start tracking downloads until July 2004
20160408 17:33:50< vultraz> 2004-06	0
20160408 17:33:52< vultraz> 2004-07	26,931
20160408 17:34:12< celticminstrel> I suspect it's likely to be more, but if we assume that's correct, and we assume that every download represente one player, then there are around ten thousane Wesnoth players.
20160408 17:34:18< celticminstrel> There's a lot of assumptions there, though.
20160408 17:34:47< vultraz> How do you figure?
20160408 17:35:00< celticminstrel> How do I figure what?
20160408 17:35:14< vultraz> 10k
20160408 17:35:18< vultraz> 10k this month?
20160408 17:36:31< celticminstrel> It's an overestimate based on the assumptions I listed.
20160408 17:37:05< celticminstrel> I could be wrong, but I think it's unlikely that Linux is 50% of our downloads, so the actual number is probably less than what I said.
20160408 17:37:10< celticminstrel> Suppose it's 30% instead.
20160408 17:37:13< vultraz> Out of that, even assuming that number, only 12% of those follow us on Twitter
20160408 17:37:21< vultraz> count out bots, etc, 10%
20160408 17:37:26< vultraz> of whom only 1.8% have voted
20160408 17:37:45< celticminstrel> If Linux is 30%, then there are only 7.6 thousand.
20160408 17:38:35< vultraz> remember only that 2.5k of the downloads this month were from Windows
20160408 17:39:08< vultraz> then again, I guess since there's no other distribution it also counts for os x
20160408 17:39:23< vultraz> (we don't have it as a desktop app on the mac app store?)
20160408 17:39:26< vultraz> (we should)
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20160408 17:41:14< vultraz> We'd get more downloads if we didn't rely on sf for our primary means of distribution
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20160408 17:44:31< celticminstrel> We don't, because I think you need a developer ID or something.
20160408 17:44:38< celticminstrel> Ancestral was talking about that awhile ago.
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20160408 17:46:58< vultraz> Ah
20160408 17:47:03< vultraz> Yeah, we should deal with that
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