--- Log opened Wed Apr 13 00:00:51 2016
20160413 00:06:51< celticminstrel> I wonder if there's any point in allowing something like $variable[id=kumquat]
20160413 00:07:27< celticminstrel> Returning the first element which has id=kumquat.
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20160413 00:24:24< celticminstrel> I've pushed an update to the WML syntax highlighter.
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20160413 01:06:32< shadowm> celticminstrel: Okay, maybe next time highlight me then. :p
20160413 01:07:02< shadowm> Since I'm not active as a dev and this isn't the system admins channel I pay only superficial attention to what's going on (if at all).
20160413 01:07:48< shadowm> Pulled. If you needed the update for any existing pages you need to purge their cached versions etc. you know the drill.
20160413 01:17:53< shadowm> In fact, the only reason I'm here is because I thought someone needed to be available to answer questions in the absence of the Glorious Leader himself.
20160413 01:18:28< shadowm> And since half of those questions were constantly being funneled to me via internal channels anyway...
20160413 01:24:17< celticminstrel> There's a system admins channel?
20160413 01:24:40< shadowm> More or less.
20160413 01:25:05< celticminstrel> "Glorious Leader'...
20160413 01:41:25< pydsigner> celticminstrel: Put a "the" before that, you peasant! </s>
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20160413 03:31:27< pydsigner> Trying to address the longstanding content issue: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/647
20160413 03:31:35< pydsigner> * long-standing
20160413 03:33:40< celticminstrel> Well, if it were up to me, I'd merge that immediately, but I suppose I should probably wait to see what others have to say.
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20160413 03:45:56< pydsigner> celticminstrel: I especially want to get any suggested improvements first, I'm not certain that my additions are suffiently clear.
20160413 03:46:06< pydsigner> * sufficiently
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20160413 08:04:57< zookeeper> go inky go: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/13/the-great-escape-inky-the-octopus-legs-it-to-freedom-from-new-zealand-aquarium
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20160413 14:11:29< dan__> Hi there everyone, I'm interested in giving a hand with development, could you tell me how do I start?
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20160413 14:13:30< gfgtdf> dan__: develoing wesnoth or developing in general ?
20160413 14:15:50< dan__> develoing wesnoth, I know C and C++.
20160413 14:16:00< dan__> developing*
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20160413 14:18:27< gfgtdf> dan__: hmm yes you should download the wesnoth source code via git.
20160413 14:18:38< dan__> Well, I would gladly give a test so that you could have an idea how much programming I know. I also know the basics of git.
20160413 14:18:45< gfgtdf> dan__: and its dependencies (this is different onf the diffrent OS)
20160413 14:20:09< gfgtdf> dan__: then after you manages to cimpile wesnoth you should think about what exactly you want to change in wesnoth, is there a paticuar bug/feature you want to work on ?
20160413 14:22:04< dan__> gfgtdf: No, i don't have anything in mind yet. But I should look on the issues page on Github i guess?
20160413 14:23:13< gfgtdf> dan__: hmm no we don't use the github issue tracker
20160413 14:23:28< gfgtdf> dan__: we still use the tracker on rna.org
20160413 14:23:39< gfgtdf> dan__: we want to updat to another tracker thoug
20160413 14:23:55< gfgtdf> dan__: we also have teh easycoing page on te wiki
20160413 14:24:53< Elvish_Hunter> dan__: this is our bugtracker: https://gna.org/bugs/?group=wesnoth
20160413 14:25:27< gfgtdf> dan__: in any case, after you found something , its better to talk here about it just to check whether the issue is till valid
20160413 14:25:49< gfgtdf> dan__: right, rna.org was a typo. i meat gna.org
20160413 14:26:47< dan__> Ok, thank you all.  When it comes to git, I have a question:
20160413 14:27:46< dan__>  Should I fork the project, then  do all the work on my clone. Then submit on your development branch. Or just clone the project and submit on the development branch?
20160413 14:29:23< gfgtdf> dan__: you make a pr on github with your changes
20160413 14:32:41< dan__> Since I'm new here, could you assign me a task? Something small for the beginning.
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20160413 14:36:09< gfgtdf> dan__: hmm 'port the map generato gialog go gui2' sounds easy to me but not sure.
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20160413 14:42:05< dan__> I'm not sure I know what that means. So Wesnoth has a map generator ok, what about it?
20160413 14:45:53< gfgtdf> dan__: the map dialog ad a dialog to configure it
20160413 14:46:40< gfgtdf> dan__: and it uses some rather old codes
20160413 14:47:01< gfgtdf> dan__: so we'd like to change it to use teh newer codes
20160413 14:49:30< dan__> Oh, ok. Now, how do I start. I guess the source file is in the src folder, but which ones?
20160413 14:50:30< gfgtdf> dan__: did you already manage to build wesnoth with aour compiler ?
20160413 14:51:15< dan__> No, you guys have your own compiler?
20160413 14:55:23< gfgtdf> dan__: hmm i don't realyl undetstand that question 
20160413 14:56:52< dan__> You asked if I managed build wesnoth with "our" compiler. I'm just using mingw gcc g++
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20160413 15:05:55< dan__> Or was it a typo mistake and I didn't got it?
20160413 15:06:56< gfgtdf> dan__: hmm yes that was a mistake i mean 'your' compiler.
20160413 15:07:23< dan__> oh, sorry
20160413 15:07:28< gfgtdf> dan__: the 'a' is above the 'y' on this keyboard.
20160413 15:08:04< gfgtdf> hmm no, its me who has to apilogize
20160413 15:08:43< dan__>  No, I'll give a try right now.
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20160413 15:23:57< dan__> Ok so internet connection is kinda slow here(need to clone source code), but home is way better.
20160413 15:24:11< dan__> Suppose i manage to build wesnoth, what next?
20160413 15:24:16< dan__> I*
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20160413 15:43:23< dan__> Never mind, managed to clone it.
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20160413 15:59:06< zookeeper> dan__, so have you actually played wesnoth much?
20160413 15:59:49< dan__> a little, yes, did some campaign.
20160413 16:02:19< zookeeper> okay. because, familiarity of course helps.
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20160413 16:14:56< dan__> Ah, so I'll  leave the chat room preaty soon, regarding ethics(first time I really use IRC) when I come back, I just start writing to you guys? 
20160413 16:15:35< celticminstrel> Not sure what that has to do with ethics, but yes.
20160413 16:15:49< celticminstrel> Basically, assume someone is here to respond and act accordingly.
20160413 16:16:59< dan__> Oh ok, well I tought I might be dooing something wrong, and I didn't intend to be rude. Thanks! 
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20160413 16:52:43< Kwandulin_2> yes, i did
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20160413 20:08:01< Aginor> morning :)
20160413 20:10:14< celticminstrel> 'lo
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20160413 20:16:28< Aginor> I've weighed in on PR 647, and I'm not opposed to the idea, but I am opposed to it happening through a PR like that
20160413 20:16:38< celticminstrel> I saw.
20160413 20:16:47< celticminstrel> And responded, too.
20160413 20:16:52< Aginor> you did too :D
20160413 20:17:28< celticminstrel> The discussion has a larger scope than the PR itself, mind you. >_>
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20160413 20:20:03< Aginor> yes :D
20160413 20:20:08< Aginor> which I acknowledge
20160413 20:20:39< Aginor> I think that PR has unintended consequences and that the larger discussion/scope has to be addressed too
20160413 20:21:41< celticminstrel> I wonder if it's actually possible to change the license for all the campaigns... I'm particularly thinking of HoT...
20160413 20:21:54< celticminstrel> Or I guess the acronym is THoT? Whatever.
20160413 20:22:04< Aginor> sure, it just takes a lot of effort
20160413 20:22:14< Aginor> and potentially forces us to re-create all contents
20160413 20:22:19< celticminstrel> Well, I'm just thinking that the author of that one might be unlikely to give consent.
20160413 20:22:58< celticminstrel> And is re-creating all content really worth it?
20160413 20:23:54< Aginor> I'm not even sure it's compatible with the GPL to run our campaigns under another license
20160413 20:24:04< Aginor> as the internet says, IANAL
20160413 20:24:30< celticminstrel> I suspect it is, but yeah, I'm not a lawyer either.
20160413 20:25:08< shadowm> Python and Linux can be used to run proprietary programs.
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20160413 20:25:55< Aginor> shadowm: we are coming down to semantics though
20160413 20:25:57< shadowm> For the most part (and especially for art and sounds/music), Wesnoth is just an interpreter that provides an API that add-ons can use.
20160413 20:26:13< shadowm> So you can already rule out problems with art/sounds/music.
20160413 20:28:46< Aginor> anyhow, I need to go to work
20160413 20:28:50< Aginor> laters
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20160413 21:59:25< Dugi> Bye.
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20160413 22:16:58< SigurdFD> Anyone here ever run wmlindent on windows?
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20160413 22:23:42< zookeeper> i've probably done it once or twice
20160413 22:23:45< zookeeper> a long time ago
20160413 22:25:55< SigurdFD> ok. I think I'll have to ask Elvish_Hunter about.
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