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20160416 17:53:12< Dugi> Hello.
20160416 17:54:02< Dugi> celticminstrel: I have looked at your recent commits, you seem to have added lua binders to my context free grammar generator. That's cool, I wanted to do that later too.
20160416 18:00:14< celticminstrel> I wanted to point at this commit in particular: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/c50e941af76fef4869803f69e24348f4e64354bd
20160416 18:00:28< celticminstrel> Maybe you didn't know about the mutable keyword?
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20160416 18:25:44< Dugi> celticminstrel: Yeah, I completely forgot about that possibility. Thanks for telling.
20160416 18:28:26< celticminstrel> ...oh, I just remembered that part of that Lua API thing wasn't actually working... whoops...
20160416 18:30:10< celticminstrel> Specifically, constructing a CFG generator from a Lua table containing the nonterminals as keys. I don't expect that to see much use though... not sure whether I should fix it or remove it...
20160416 18:31:32< celticminstrel> BTW Dugi, a side-effect of the way you implemented your parser is that any line not containing = is ignored, like a comment.
20160416 18:34:24< Dugi> It was not intended, but allowing a way to comment the code might be useful.
20160416 18:34:48< celticminstrel> I have a comment in the female khalifate grammar.
20160416 18:36:13< Dugi> You mean a lua table like { "A", "B", "C"}, where "A", "B" and "C" mean nonterminals? Or something like { nonterminal = { "possibility1", "possibility2"} }?
20160416 18:36:25< Dugi> Female Khalifate? You have actually written that?
20160416 18:37:01< celticminstrel> Yup.
20160416 18:37:20< Kwandulin> is there a list of names that are produced by the code?
20160416 18:37:42< celticminstrel> I mean a Lua table like {main = {"{prefix}{suffix}", "{prefix}{centre}{suffix}"}, etc=...}
20160416 18:38:12< celticminstrel> Kwandulin: A list is obtainable.
20160416 18:38:20< Dugi> Aha. And can it call to the generator to construct something? Can it hold it or does it construct a new one on each call?
20160416 18:38:29< celticminstrel> Either through Dugi's site or with the Lua API.
20160416 18:38:36< Dugi> You can post a link to my website to show it.
20160416 18:39:30< celticminstrel> Dugi: The Lua API wesnoth.name_generator returns the generator as a function. Since the Lua table method doesn't currently work for some reason, you need a string grammar, same as in the WML.
20160416 18:39:46< celticminstrel> The syntax is wesnoth.name_generator("context_free", "main=...")
20160416 18:40:03< celticminstrel> You can also get the name generator for a built-in race.
20160416 18:40:11< Dugi> Aha, cool.
20160416 18:40:18< celticminstrel> eg, wesnoth.races.elf.male_name_gen is a function that returns a random male elf name.
20160416 18:41:06< celticminstrel> You can pass "markov" as the first parameter to name_generator, too. In that case, additional optional integer parameters specify the chain length and maximum total length.
20160416 18:41:13< celticminstrel> ^chain size
20160416 18:41:49< celticminstrel> Dugi: What's the link to your website, again?
20160416 18:41:49< Dugi> Means that I can create a WML binder that would make death messages for units, random units speaking tons of stuff in randomly generated alien language etc, right?
20160416 18:42:07< Dugi> physics.muni.cz/~dugi/cfggen
20160416 18:42:12< celticminstrel> Sounds possible to me.
20160416 18:42:33< celticminstrel> That seems to give 404.
20160416 18:43:06< Dugi> Ah, yes, forgot a part of the call. This is the proper link: http://physics.muni.cz/~dugi/index.fcgi/cfggen
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20160416 18:47:56< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: allowing name_gerneator to be called with a lua table instead of a string sounds lieka good idea to me
20160416 18:48:25< celticminstrel> The web generator doesn't seem to be working for me...
20160416 18:48:35< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: iirc lua_check shodul alreads support check<map<string,string>>
20160416 18:48:43< celticminstrel> It's just redirecting back to the default.
20160416 18:48:56< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: If I recall correctly, it doesn't support maps.
20160416 18:49:33< celticminstrel> I think there's a TODO comment or something.
20160416 18:49:38< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: also it'd be doog if the name generatot woudl be moved to the lua kernel base instead of game lua kernel so that it coudl also be used by lua map generator for exampel for  naming villages or similar
20160416 18:49:42< celticminstrel> Of course I could implement it though.
20160416 18:49:52< celticminstrel> Oh... good point...
20160416 18:50:57< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: right it onyl suporrt the push functiobn, for some reason i thought it woudl oynl support the check function.
20160416 18:52:19< celticminstrel> Ah, got it working.
20160416 18:53:12< celticminstrel> The grammar could probably still use some improvement...
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20160416 18:57:16< irker280> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 7bcb4a587327 / / (3 files in 3 dirs): Updated generic portrait of Mermaid Initiate https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7bcb4a587327876007b74fa0111e7ab52d652f96
20160416 18:57:23< celticminstrel> Ideally ibn/ibna should be for names ending in a consonant, when bin/bint should be for names ending in a vowel. I don't think there's any good way of doing that though.
20160416 18:57:29< zookeeper> ^ actually scaled it down a lot to make it the same size as the others
20160416 18:58:05< celticminstrel> Dugi: The URL I get doesn't seem to work, so it looks like I can't post a sample of the female khalifate names.
20160416 18:58:55< celticminstrel> That is, if I copy-paste the URL, or even just reload the page, I get some completely different page.
20160416 19:00:12< celticminstrel> The new mermaid initiate seems to fit the general style of the other merfolk better...
20160416 19:00:26< zookeeper> better late than never
20160416 19:00:32< celticminstrel> Is it a redraw or some sort of edit?
20160416 19:00:41< zookeeper> thread link in the commit description
20160416 19:00:55< celticminstrel> Well, I kinda assumed the alt mermaid initiate might become the official one, but I guess that's not going to happen now.
20160416 19:01:31< celticminstrel> So it's an edit.
20160416 19:03:29< zookeeper> yep
20160416 19:16:38< Dugi> celticminstrel: What are you trying to write into it? It could be a bug in the base64 encoder, but I have seen it occur only once and I assumed that a letter was missing from the link.
20160416 19:17:42< celticminstrel> I just copied the female khalifate grammar from the file, renamed main to name, and added a main that prints 30 or so names.
20160416 19:21:41< Dugi> Can you paste the text somewhere?
20160416 19:23:45< celticminstrel> http://pastebin.com/233ZACyj
20160416 19:27:58< Dugi> celticminstrel: I have found the cause.
20160416 19:28:16< Dugi> The text is too long to be storable in the URL.
20160416 19:28:20< celticminstrel> Ah.
20160416 19:28:26< Dugi> If I removed a few lines, it worked properly.
20160416 19:29:10< Dugi> There's pretty much no way to deal with it but to save it on the disk and give you only a key to the stored data.
20160416 19:30:51< Dugi> I think that it should give a warning if the URL is too long, but there might be a bug. Or the apache server that controls it has stricter limits than I thought.
20160416 19:31:50< celticminstrel> I'd say "use POST" but then you can't link to it.
20160416 19:32:51< Dugi> You weren't far above the limit, when I reduced the number of names generated per call, it begun working too: http://goo.gl/mSu7A5
20160416 19:33:35< Dugi> I might add there an additional button to generate the contents several times, it should simplify the testing.
20160416 19:33:54< celticminstrel> Kwandulin: ^
20160416 19:34:22< celticminstrel> Looks like the space after "bint" got lost somewhere, though.
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20160416 19:34:46< Dugi> I see that too. Maybe pastebin did it.
20160416 19:34:54< celticminstrel> Maybe.
20160416 19:35:11< celticminstrel> Or if you didn't use pastebin raw mode, I guess.
20160416 19:35:16< Kwandulin> looks nice
20160416 19:35:38< Dugi> I didn't. Here is a corrected link: http://goo.gl/a2OJVh
20160416 19:35:43< Kwandulin> "Raul" and "Dan" don't sound feminine to me, though
20160416 19:36:19< Dugi> Dan is an abbreviation of Daniel in many languages.
20160416 19:36:22< celticminstrel> Those showed up as first names?
20160416 19:36:38< celticminstrel> As opposed to patronymics.
20160416 19:37:07< celticminstrel> I mean, something like "Zari ibna Dan" is perfectly fine, but "Dan" alone is a bit odd.
20160416 19:37:28< celticminstrel> I guess "bint" works better there, but I didn't think it worth complicating the grammar to enforce that.
20160416 19:37:48< Kwandulin> yeah, it was dan and raul alone
20160416 19:39:19< celticminstrel> I guess the grammar could use some work, then.
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20160416 21:43:30< gfgtdf> who was it again who got reproducabla crashs during loadingscreen ?
20160416 21:45:02< gfgtdf> SigurdFD: you you pleasy check oif you still get the crash when you disable tiltescreen animation ?
20160416 21:45:20< gfgtdf> SigurdFD: lodingscreen animation i mean
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20160416 21:46:47< gfgtdf> SigurdFD: by adding a 'return;' before the 'const char* stage = current_stage_' line in src/gui/dialogs/loadscreen.cpp that is
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