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20160505 01:13:23< celticminstrel> Is this possible? https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=44096
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20160505 12:38:39< irker273> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:asio_wesnothd 99dff79b7450 / src/server/server.cpp: Re-enable ip log functionality https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/99dff79b74502f39e63b03bcdc5c266dd56608e8
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20160505 13:18:46< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/128041524
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20160505 14:06:54< mattsc> zookeeper: interestingly, the goto bug also happens with units that could not move for other reasons (max_moves=0; or terrain cost too high).
20160505 14:07:06< mattsc> In any case, it is caused by exactly the line you identified.
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20160505 14:07:40< mattsc> Simply replacing ‘return BAD_SCORE’ with ‘continue’ seems to fix it.
20160505 14:08:44< mattsc> I’m just a little nervuous about that, because there are continues all over the place in that part of the code, so I am wondering if there’s some sort of situation in which that will cause problems.
20160505 14:09:44< mattsc> But I’ve tested all kinds of cases and I think logically that’s what should be done here, so most likely it’s just a “typo”.
20160505 14:16:52< zookeeper> i thought i tested that fix (or something similar) and that it didn't solve the problem, but maybe i botched it up somehow
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20160505 14:18:22< mattsc> Hmm.  It does fix my test cases.  Would you mind trying again, or sending me the save that you’ve been using?
20160505 14:20:10< zookeeper> i'll try it again
20160505 14:25:48< zookeeper> nope, nothing. this one, right? https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/ai/default/ca.cpp#L116
20160505 14:26:21< mattsc> yes
20160505 14:27:36< zookeeper> okay, i'll upload the savefile
20160505 14:28:44< mattsc> okay
20160505 14:29:50< zookeeper> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/SotBE-Clash_of_Armies_Turn_12_goto_repro.gz
20160505 14:30:07< zookeeper> added labels to indicate which ships are (not) doing what
20160505 14:31:25< mattsc> Thanks.  I see that this is the 1.13 version; I did my testing in 1.12 — but I assume that that should not make a difference.
20160505 14:32:12< zookeeper> ah, yeah, i guess it might. i only verified that it also happens with 1.12 but i've done all my other testing in 1.13
20160505 14:32:25< zookeeper> and looks like i forgot a few debug messages in, you can ignore those :P
20160505 14:32:47< mattsc> no worries, I’m good at ignoring things  ;)
20160505 14:34:06< zookeeper> i'd test it on 1.12 too if it didn't mean a full rebuild, but since it does...
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20160505 14:35:18< zookeeper> so, you can for example just ctrl-k kill the units blocking the west ship from getting to the dock in order to get the east ship moving again
20160505 14:36:00< zookeeper> urgh
20160505 14:36:08< zookeeper> and i polluted that savefile with some animation nonsense
20160505 14:37:39< zookeeper> i'll just... make a new one
20160505 14:40:12< mattsc> zookeeper: don’t worry about it
20160505 14:40:30< zookeeper> well, already updated the link so you might as well take it :p
20160505 14:40:41< mattsc> okay  :)
20160505 14:41:07< zookeeper> ...but don't worry, i still forgot to remove one of those debug messages :>
20160505 14:41:15< mattsc> hehe
20160505 14:41:16< zookeeper> (well, two, but you probably never see the other one)
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20160505 14:41:35< mattsc> So, I did a quick test with 1.13, and it fixes my test case there too, but apparently not yours.
20160505 14:42:00< mattsc> More than that, the ‘else’ block which contains that command never seems to get triggered.
20160505 14:42:15< mattsc> So it looks like there’s something else going on here.
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20160505 15:29:11< mattsc> zookeeper: so, yes, there’s indeed something else going on
20160505 15:30:25< mattsc> In the SotBE case, it does find a move for the unit, from 14,16 -> 14,16, which does not change the gamestate, resulting in the CA being blacklisted.
20160505 15:30:57< mattsc> In my test case, it triggers the bad_score return, meaning the CA is abandoned.
20160505 15:31:12< mattsc> So while these have the same effect, they are really separate bugs.
20160505 15:31:26< zookeeper> huh. okay.
20160505 15:36:18< celticminstrel> ...why would it find a move from point P to point P?
20160505 15:36:44< mattsc> It doesn’t actually.  I was wrong.
20160505 15:37:11< mattsc> It finds a move from 13,16 -> 14,16, but 14,16 is occupied by an allied unit (which is why the path is found).
20160505 15:37:23< mattsc> The result is then the same as what I described before.
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20160505 15:39:02< mattsc> I’m not 100% sure how to deal with that and I am out of time for now.  I’ll think about it later.  I should probably look up hw the MtT CA deals with it, because this must happen there quite frequently.
20160505 15:41:10< zookeeper> good luck, we're all counting on you
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20160505 15:42:09< irker729> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:asio_wesnothd 157a0f9c623f / src/server/ (server.cpp server.hpp): Reimplemented the ability to count currently active games https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/157a0f9c623f7af9b805b52c7d841fb21a32561b
20160505 15:42:10< mattsc> :P
20160505 15:55:32< Kwandulin> zookeeper, what are your thoughts on this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97230181/Wesnoth/OoA-locations.html and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97230181/Wesnoth/southerndeserts.png
20160505 15:56:21< Kwandulin> oh, and Kesh=Azen
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20160505 16:13:50< zookeeper> well, the locations make sense. if i had to pick one thing that sounds a bit excessive about the lore part, it'd be the magic astral prison. like, the idea is fine but i'm not sure about a giant magic sphere (having been) on top of a mountain.
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20160505 16:20:38< zookeeper> i guess it could still work, as long as it's established as some kind of wondrous pinnacle of magical achievement of times past
20160505 16:20:51< Kwandulin> Would moving it into the mountain work for you? Or making a smaller crystal shard?
20160505 16:21:13< zookeeper> does it need to be potentially mobile? :P
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20160505 16:23:05< Kwandulin> mhhh yes, i need it to show that something inside happened to it got a will of its own
20160505 16:23:22< Kwandulin> (there's some evil guy in there who got caught by the athvari and managed to control the sphere from inside)
20160505 16:23:28< Kwandulin> but im not sure if that's _too_ odd
20160505 16:27:04< Kwandulin> we got some crazy undead lichs and some wizards that create a second sun, though
20160505 16:27:56< zookeeper> well, maybe the sphere is more of a portal and no one's completely sure what all lies on the other side? i got the impression that the sphere was meant to be really huge, but if it's just the size of a house then i guess that would seem more reasonable
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20160505 16:30:39< Kwandulin> https://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=68548&mode=view it's the size of a big house currently. but the size of the sphere isnt that important. it shouldnt be on the smaller side, though
20160505 16:31:55< Kwandulin> yes, the sphere is some kind of a portal which leads to 'another dimension'. but when the sphere is destroyed, so is that dimension
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20160505 16:39:23< zookeeper> right, right
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20160505 16:45:54< zookeeper> so the sphere was not necessarily actually created by the athvari, right?
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20160505 16:47:16< zookeeper> oh, it actually says they did
20160505 16:52:40< zookeeper> i'm just trying to think of a way it could be connected to their backstory somehow, how their anti-magic thing came about and all that
20160505 16:56:49< zookeeper> i mean, if there exists such a special and legendary artifact, then it'd make sense if it was also a big piece of the hows and whys of the backstory
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20160505 16:59:33< Kwandulin> yes, it was by the first of them
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20160505 17:05:55< zookeeper> so... the athvari were basically khalifate wizards, and they settled those lands along with them, created the sphere sometime soon afterwards, and it was "in use" for a long time, until 40 years ago when it disappeared?
20160505 17:06:50< Kwandulin> their anti-magic attitude is mainly because of the three kings of their first capitol, who abused the powers of magic to extend their realm. for the people, it was a terrific era (they probably got thrown into wars they didnt even want to fight, etc) so after these madmen got taken down by serrul and kesh, the magic-police started the control of magic in order to prevent that from happening again
20160505 17:07:17< zookeeper> i think by terrific you mean terrible :>
20160505 17:07:35< Kwandulin> eh, yes :<
20160505 17:09:26< Kwandulin> yes, the athvari sometime got notice of a wizard, so they put banned him into the sphere. but he was an extraordinary good wizard, so he has been able to take control of the sphere (that's why the sphere disappeared). so he somehow could connect the world inside the sphere and the world outside
20160505 17:09:37< Kwandulin> i still need to work on this part of the campaign
20160505 17:10:19< Kwandulin> i want the group of dawoud to go inside the sphere and see what's going on in there
20160505 17:10:31< Kwandulin> -put*
20160505 17:11:54< Kwandulin> and i dont want that wizard to be a lich, so there's still some need for more thoughts
20160505 17:12:02< zookeeper> well, sounds good to me. i've always been of the opinion that they should have developed their anti-magic attitude because of something that happened on the great continent, not in their original homeland.
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20160505 17:17:11< irker729> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:asio_wesnothd 87f4a00e47ef / src/server/ (server.cpp server.hpp): Reenabled nickserv functionality https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/87f4a00e47efbcf26bbaa583e9bb70cb789dee37
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20160505 18:23:25< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: would it be easier with the new wesnotd implementation to implement a query wesnoth version from user function?
20160505 18:23:57< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: can you elaborate?
20160505 18:24:16< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: it'd be nice that for exemple when an OOS appears the game would then also tell the the wesnotzh versions of all the users for example.
20160505 18:25:12< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: but alos in other cases, for example when i observe a mp game and see a bug i'd liek to know which wesnoth versions are used (by the clients eg 1.12.2 or 1.12.5)
20160505 18:26:15< loonycyborg> I don't think it would make much difference. In both cases it's a matter of extening player struct with extra data about version
20160505 18:26:19< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: and asking the users isn't always succesfule becaue some people might now know teh version or dont speak english or are unresponsive in gerneral
20160505 18:26:34< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: hm ok
20160505 18:27:03< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: iirc it wasnt as trivial as i thought when i tried to implement it at first (quite some time ago)
20160505 18:27:37< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: this coudl be becasue the wesnotzh version is transmited before the player name (and thus before the player struct is created)
20160505 18:28:09< loonycyborg> it's possible to also keep it in login log
20160505 18:28:26< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: iirc the wesnoth version is tranmitted first for the server-client compability check . and then the player name in a seperate package
20160505 18:29:57< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: the loging lost is part of te stderr stream o is it something different?
20160505 18:30:44< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/server/server.hpp#L71
20160505 18:31:17< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: ok will look at it thx.
20160505 18:32:14< loonycyborg> hmm but this log is updated long time after version is known too
20160505 18:33:29< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: i also saw you reimplemented admin commens is there anythign left to do ?
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20160505 18:36:54< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: hmm Ithink there was something yet
20160505 18:37:06< loonycyborg> like need to decide what to do about metrics
20160505 18:37:33< loonycyborg> this heavily relies on stuff in network_worker
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20160505 18:46:07< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: which metrics you mean ?=
20160505 18:46:45< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: information about how much bytes were uploaded/downloaded etc
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20160505 18:47:59< loonycyborg> it keeps track of alot of info actually
20160505 18:48:13< loonycyborg> that's because it's originally made by Sirp
20160505 18:48:37< loonycyborg> this guy is very into mass collection of data :P
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20160505 18:56:46< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: well i do think that such infoirmation is useful, for example when youwant to know which parts shoudl be optimized to reduce network traffic
20160505 18:57:23< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: or even just to justcheck whether a made optimisation does really reduce the netowrk trafic
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20160505 19:01:01< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: but might be hard to implement
20160505 19:01:10< loonycyborg> not TOO hard though
20160505 19:01:59< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: hmm can't you just interpose a counting stream somewhere?
20160505 19:02:22< loonycyborg> not sure what you mean
20160505 19:02:39< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: also while i do think that suhc functionality is useful i don't think its important anough to stop the pr from being merged
20160505 19:02:45< loonycyborg> but the problem is that counting is done in network_worker.cpp
20160505 19:02:53< loonycyborg> ok
20160505 19:04:56< loonycyborg> iirc most of reads and writes are done through small set of helper functions so it'll be easy to place "tap"on them :P
20160505 19:05:26 * celticminstrel guesses that gfgtdf meant something like a stream adaptor that counts the bytes passing through it.
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20160505 19:09:11< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: i just noticed that your pr still has multiple camcase calssnames like PlayerRecord
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20160505 19:09:58< loonycyborg> yeah, I kinda borrowed this convention from haskell :P
20160505 19:10:31< loonycyborg> so variables could be small case
20160505 19:11:16< loonycyborg> and you could variable of same name as type without too much confusion 
20160505 19:11:57< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: i don't think its bad in gerneral its just alien to the rest of wesnoths code and wesnoths coding convention (which is mostlikleey just taken from std coding convention)
20160505 19:12:30< loonycyborg> and gui code follows tconvension :P
20160505 19:13:14< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: hmm yes but its doesnt look that much different liek the calemcase in wesnothd
20160505 19:13:46< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: also note that even the wesnothd used the lowercase convention in most classes (game, server etc)
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20160505 19:16:30< gfgtdf> uses*
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20160505 19:22:37< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: https://wiki.wesnoth.org/CodingStandards#Naming
20160505 19:22:48< loonycyborg> it doesn't say anything about casing
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20160505 19:24:12< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: yes but it goes without saying that you we shouldn't be too inconsteitent with those things in the code.
20160505 19:24:19< shadowm> ^ 
20160505 19:24:36< loonycyborg> at least I'm consistent with myself :P
20160505 19:24:47< loonycyborg> like mordante was consistent with himself
20160505 19:24:58< shadowm> Not good enough a excuse.
20160505 19:25:10< celticminstrel> Mordante's naming convention is kind of ridiculous though.
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20160505 19:32:28< loonycyborg> hmm I originally made the class connection in src/network_asio, and it's small lettered
20160505 19:33:05< loonycyborg> did someone else changeit to small letter? Or I'm really inconsistent with myself after all? :P
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20160505 19:36:26< loonycyborg> uff git blame shows that I originally made it small lettered
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