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20160507 05:02:28 * celticminstrel fwaps vultraz_iOS 
20160507 05:02:41< vultraz_iOS> Da?
20160507 05:03:08< celticminstrel> Try thinking more before posting.
20160507 05:04:10< vultraz_iOS> Shrug
20160507 05:04:10< vultraz_iOS> Let the community Ponder
20160507 05:05:16< celticminstrel> That's not a good thing in this case.
20160507 05:05:57< vultraz_iOS> Honestly
20160507 05:06:15< vultraz_iOS> I'm feeling very apathetic about it
20160507 05:06:35< celticminstrel> Eh?
20160507 05:09:50< vultraz_iOS> I'm not really concerned as to any potential fallout from my comment
20160507 05:11:14< celticminstrel> I see.
20160507 05:12:24< celticminstrel> I can't say I like the sound of that, but whatever, I'm going to bed.
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20160507 05:16:25< Sapient> "We might not even have 1.16"... o ye of little faith
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20160507 05:38:31< Aginor> it made me come out of the woodworks on the forum again
20160507 05:38:39< Aginor> I made my 7th post :D
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20160507 08:30:15< irker938> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:asio_wesnothd 37688d57d61a / SConstruct: Remove redundant SDL check https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/37688d57d61a78f0db7a73f89a6c2c5b3aca815b
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20160507 15:55:33< mattsc> zookeeper, celticminstrel: I managed to replicate the goto error in my test scenario in a much simpler setting.
20160507 15:55:38< mattsc> I still don’t know what to do about it.
20160507 15:56:33< mattsc> The MtT phase does this differently, because it only calls execution once and does all moves of all units at the same time, so if any individual unit does not move, the CA still does not get blacklisted.
20160507 15:56:54< mattsc> Unless it’s the only unit that could still move, in which case the blacklisting is ok (and, in fact, desired).
20160507 15:57:46< mattsc> I think the easiest way of dealing with this problem in the Goto CA might be to simply remove movement from a unit after the move is done.
20160507 15:58:06< mattsc> It would catch cases like this, and would not make a difference for units that do move.
20160507 16:02:14< zookeeper> and that would only be done when using the Goto CA, right, meaning there wouldn't be unforeseen weirdness with AI units in general losing their movement points without apparent reason?
20160507 16:04:30< mattsc> right, it would be in the execution function of the Goto CA
20160507 16:05:58< mattsc> It would mean that a unit with a goto goal set that can, in principle, move toward that goal, but has its path blocked by own or allied units would have its MP taken away.
20160507 16:06:09< mattsc> One could argue that that’s the correct thing to do anyway.
20160507 16:06:34< zookeeper> yeah, sounds pretty harmless, especially if it doesn't remove remaining movement if the unit actually reaches the goal
20160507 16:07:21< zookeeper> because that's something that could conceivably ruin someone's day
20160507 16:07:23< mattsc> Well, that’s the current behavior though.  All moves done by the goto AI are “full moves”.
20160507 16:07:31< zookeeper> oh. well, okay then :P
20160507 16:09:12< mattsc> It’s a matter of opinion whether that’s how it should be, but it’s the current behavior, so I figure we should keep it that way.
20160507 16:09:55< mattsc> And I actually checked that it was that way already before 1.11.5.  It did not change.
20160507 16:11:02< zookeeper> sounds good to me then
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20160507 18:23:57< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: any opinion on making a 1.12.6 soon? there are now 2 fixes fo asertion failures in mp.
20160507 18:24:20< loonycyborg> I don't mind but ask vultraz
20160507 18:24:27< celticminstrel> I have one or two things to cherry-pick if we're doing 1.12.6.
20160507 18:25:51< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: i thought you are the new release manger ?
20160507 18:28:01< loonycyborg> I do only technical part, someone also must write release announcement and stuff
20160507 18:38:49< zookeeper> yeah i'll cherry-pick a bunch of small stuff too... and maybe i should finally fix those river ford transitions in 1.12 too. after playing a few MP games and observing a bunch i can't understand why i didn't do it years ago. -.-
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20160507 22:44:23< irker148> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:1.12 f96fb2a1f863 / changelog data/core/terrain-graphics.cfg: Fixed river ford transition glitches https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f96fb2a1f863c7a5208c4d33edb3607f5c9431e2
20160507 22:45:29< zookeeper> better late than never
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20160507 23:36:10< Aginor> :)
20160507 23:36:52< Aginor> celticminstrel: I think you should go ahead and cherry-pick those commits so we're in a position to do a 1.12.6 without much notice
20160507 23:37:48< celticminstrel> ...right...
20160507 23:38:17< Aginor> you disagree?
20160507 23:38:22< celticminstrel> No.
20160507 23:38:28 * zookeeper will do some cherry-picking tomorrow
20160507 23:39:03< Aginor> I'm in favour of doing a 1.12.6 release
20160507 23:39:24< Aginor> I could even volunteer to do something useful with regards to it ;)
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20160507 23:44:58< celticminstrel> Like the release announcement?
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20160507 23:52:43< Aginor> I can write an announcement
20160507 23:53:15 * celticminstrel didn't think vultraz did a good job of that, at least when compared to shadowm.
20160507 23:53:16< Aginor> I'll follow the form of the previous announcements
20160507 23:53:43< celticminstrel> Okay, let me see if I can remember what I was supposed to cherry-pick...
20160507 23:53:57< Aginor> I'll write a letter to the mailing list later
20160507 23:54:05< Aginor> announcing the intent for a release
20160507 23:54:55< celticminstrel> This looks potentially cherry-pickable? https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3b4b858a40d251cb4a3662d894843af7b947dfff
20160507 23:54:58< Aginor> I'll set a date for testing starting with an RC, followed by a final release a week or two later based on the outcome of testing?
20160507 23:55:05< Aginor> does that sound alright?
20160507 23:55:24< Aginor> how about making an RC for testing on May 23?
20160507 23:55:39< celticminstrel> Sounds okay to me, I guess.
20160507 23:56:12< Aginor> celticminstrel: yes, I think so, but I know nothing of the wml stuff ;)
20160507 23:56:22< Aginor> (with regards to cherry-pickability)
20160507 23:57:10< celticminstrel> Hmm, thinking about it... I think those IDs were valid in 1.12 but became invalid when [object] was ported to Lua...
20160507 23:57:21< celticminstrel> So if that's the case, there's no point in cherry-picking it.
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