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20160516 04:57:44< Sapient> 1. Use a download manager to download the directory "https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth.git"
20160516 04:58:24< Sapient> ^ when I do that it redirects the request to https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth
20160516 04:59:37< Sapient> I assume the Download ZIP button there will give me all the history?
20160516 04:59:52< vultraz> I don't think so
20160516 04:59:54< shadowm> No.
20160516 04:59:59< vultraz> Just a snapshot of HEAD
20160516 05:01:01< Sapient> ok... I guess I'll just try a straight up clone in terminal
20160516 05:01:42< shadowm> You can alternatively ask shadowm to update the tarball on the website.
20160516 05:02:39< Sapient> no need. I'll try it myself first
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20160516 05:31:06< shadowm> Well, I kind of should've done that two years ago anyway.
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20160516 05:38:57< vultraz> You did do it two years ago
20160516 05:39:41< shadowm> Don't worry, a simple ls -l informed me of this fact half an hour ago.
20160516 05:40:24< shadowm> -rw-r--r-- 1 wesnoth wesnoth 2057082880 Nov 29  2014 wesnoth-git-20141129-063302.tar
20160516 05:40:30< shadowm> -rw-r--r-- 1 wesnoth wesnoth 2358087680 May 16 05:28 wesnoth-git-20160516-052431.tar
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20160516 07:54:00< shadowm> zookeeper: So, weren't you surveying someone's efforts on remaking Konrad and Li'sar's sprites to match the current portraits?
20160516 07:54:20< shadowm> Or am I remembering wrong? I'm remembering wrong as usual, aren't I?
20160516 07:55:41< zookeeper> https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=592821#p592821 ?
20160516 07:56:07< shadowm> !
20160516 07:56:29< shadowm> Okay, so I guess you weren't 'surveying' it per se, but any idea what happened with that?
20160516 07:59:04< zookeeper> well, it just never went further than what you see there
20160516 07:59:56< shadowm> Pardon the language, but that frankly just effing sucks.
20160516 08:00:21< shadowm> Maybe doofus-01 just needs a little push to do... whatever it is he was supposed to do in addition to what was already done?
20160516 08:01:31< shadowm> I mean, honestly, I see Jet's edit and I have literally no idea what else might need to be done other than animations.
20160516 08:02:17< shadowm> That Li'sar is still 200% superior to the legacy version we're forced to use atm.
20160516 08:02:59< shadowm> /rant
20160516 08:03:48< zookeeper> when i'm not pushing people it's usually because i have no idea how much pushing they can take before they flip the table and quit.
20160516 08:04:28< shadowm> More often than not that results in people forgetting their side projects and moving on.
20160516 08:04:46< shadowm> Not pushing them to complete their side projects, that is.
20160516 08:05:35< shadowm> While we are at it, did you read my suggestion to add more ToD transition sounds in addition to the current ones?
20160516 08:06:28< shadowm> I know you can't really walk up to your drawer and pull new sounds out of it, but acknowledging that it's a thing we could have goes a long way to making things happen.
20160516 08:06:48< zookeeper> can't say i recall reading it
20160516 08:07:08< zookeeper> but in any case, i have some trouble thinking of suitable sounds
20160516 08:07:30< shadowm> https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=596530#p596530
20160516 08:07:53< zookeeper> oh, that
20160516 08:08:09< shadowm> "add more [...] in addition" Ugh.
20160516 08:08:55< zookeeper> "add more [...] in addition" implies new sounds for the other ToD's, whereas your post implies variations of the same sounds
20160516 08:09:09< shadowm> I mean the latter, of course.
20160516 08:09:16< zookeeper> right
20160516 08:11:33< zookeeper> i dunno. in regular play you hear the sounds maybe once per 5 minutes or something, i don't see variations making much of a difference WRT repetition, as variations would still have to sound very similar so it's clear they're cueing the same thing.
20160516 08:12:01< shadowm> It really depends on the scenario.
20160516 08:12:23< zookeeper> sure
20160516 08:12:37< zookeeper> or if you're watching a replay :P
20160516 08:20:06< zookeeper> well, i do have the original working files still intact, it seems. not sure if i can retrieve that one missing plugin though...
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20160516 08:36:50< vultraz> zookeeper: why not just commit the jetrel edit
20160516 08:38:24< Jetrel_bot> Yeah, just commit the new edited version I made - it's better than what we've got, and the legacy ones have worthless animations anyways.
20160516 08:41:16< zookeeper> all right
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20160516 09:20:24< shadowm> Okay, finally, I think I have the disappearing button icons bug finally sorted out for real without having to edit any WML and break UMC themes (however scarce those are).
20160516 09:21:33< shadowm> The hardest part will be explaining in a commit message why my code changes are necessary and not as crazy as they seem at first glance.
20160516 09:43:50< shadowm>     const SDL_Rect EmptyRect = {-1234,-1234,0,0};
20160516 09:43:55< shadowm> ... Magic... numbers...
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20160516 09:44:14< irker071> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master bed1ac759172 / changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth-editor/es.po po/wesnoth-low/es.po: updated Spanish translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/bed1ac759172d87fdae6b06da3d270369d46ff48
20160516 09:44:16< irker071> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master d3a306064ce7 / po/ (4 files in 4 dirs): updated Italian translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d3a306064ce72334540d010b3a9959e1b9ea1f53
20160516 09:44:18< irker071> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:1.12 3d904a3ae7db / / (5 files in 4 dirs): updated Spanish translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3d904a3ae7dbaf4837c131611f813d3f65978645
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20160516 09:58:11< Sapient> can someone ( Ivanovic ? shadowm ? ) add me to the github organization please? https://github.com/sapientN3T
20160516 09:59:44< shadowm> Are you going to come out of retirent or...?
20160516 09:59:49< shadowm> retirement
20160516 10:00:21< shadowm> Also, you didn't mention our current tyrant I mean project manager.
20160516 10:00:55< vultraz> Hm?
20160516 10:00:58< shadowm> Invitation sent.
20160516 10:01:35< shadowm> ... Your cloak has your account name capitalized.
20160516 10:01:54< Sapient> yes I am coming out of retirement. but it will probably take me a while before I contribute anything significant
20160516 10:01:56< shadowm> freenode staff never told me this was a thing back when I got my unaff cloak, and later my project cloak.
20160516 10:01:59< shadowm> :|
20160516 10:02:36< shadowm> Okay, I guess it's good that you are doing that while I'm retired then.
20160516 10:02:39< Sapient> also I never officially retired. I just got progressively lazier and slower until I appeared dead :P
20160516 10:02:46< shadowm> Otherwise you'd have to put up with my rants about GUI1.
20160516 10:03:00< shadowm> Worry not, though, I'm sure vultraz will be able to fill in for me.
20160516 10:03:55< Sapient> I also know PHP so I may be able to help with forums related stuff
20160516 10:05:41< Sapient> shadowm: I don't suppose there's any way to link my old commits to my current username?
20160516 10:07:52< shadowm> Yes, you have to set your GitHub account preferences accordingly.
20160516 10:08:15< shadowm> Go to https://github.com/settings/emails , add the email address associated to your previous commits, and follow the instructions to confirm it.
20160516 10:08:16< vultraz> I believe it has to do with adding the email associated with the commit to you account
20160516 10:08:22< shadowm> Maybe even set it to primary.
20160516 10:08:37< shadowm> And you'll want to make sure your Git client uses the same email address globally or on a per-repo basis.
20160516 10:09:38< shadowm> Hm, I miscalculated something, my previous commits aren't obsoleted by the new fix.
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20160516 10:11:51< Sapient> oh cool, it's already showing me when I look at the revisions now
20160516 10:14:43< Sapient> vultraz so you're the community manager now? congrats. I look forward to fixing some bugs
20160516 10:14:56< vultraz> Yes, but I'm currently on Wesbreak
20160516 10:15:19< Sapient> haha... yes here you are in IRC
20160516 10:15:22< irker071> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:1.12 e3970e8cb4c6 / / (5 files in 3 dirs): gui: Fix theme UI buttons missing icons or toggle state upon recreation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e3970e8cb4c634f2dba676dce1865feabd2582c9
20160516 10:15:27< vultraz> Still around to do some small things, though.
20160516 10:15:44 * shadowm deflates.
20160516 10:16:13 * zookeeper vaporizes
20160516 10:16:34< shadowm> I'm glad I don't need to repeat this awkward maneuver master.
20160516 10:16:41< shadowm> On master, even.
20160516 10:16:46< Sapient> wow you guys are even funnier than last time
20160516 10:16:52< vultraz> Dat commit message o_O
20160516 10:16:55< zookeeper> yeah we've had lots of time to practise
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20160516 10:18:25< shadowm> You probably should hold it back until December 31st.
20160516 10:18:51< shadowm> I predict there will be plenty of opportunities for even longer commit messages later this year.
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20160516 11:06:57< Sapient> ok, so now I'm trying to gather all the dependencies for building wesnoth from source
20160516 11:07:13< Sapient> hit a snag on the very first one (SDL)
20160516 11:09:24< Sapient> "Package dependencies cannot be resolved."
20160516 11:10:28< Sapient> hmm, oddly enough it worked from the command line but not from the Ubuntu Software Center. nevermind
20160516 11:10:58 * Sapient continues gathering dependencies
20160516 11:11:52< irker071> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master d050e8b17d4f / / (7 files in 4 dirs): New base frames for Li'sar by doofus-01 (edits by Jetrel) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d050e8b17d4f01615c8ef5629731e1117e8b97cc
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20160516 11:31:03< Sapient> ok, I installed libsdl2-2.0-0 but Scons is saying No package 'sdl2' found
20160516 11:31:28< vultraz> zookeeper: you forgot the Tutorial images
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20160516 11:42:53< zookeeper> duh right
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20160516 11:48:53< Sapient> no luck with cmake either. it's saying Could NOT find SDL2
20160516 11:49:02< gfgtdf> if i have [set_variables] mode=append, name=arr[3], .., [/set_variables] and arr is an array o 10 elements what is the expexted behaviour? should the [3] be ignored and the data be appended at the end (inserted after the 10th element) or shoudol the dat be inserted after the third element ?
20160516 11:49:31< vultraz> latter, I'd say
20160516 11:49:58< zookeeper> well it should go inside arr[3]
20160516 11:51:13< Sapient> if I saw that, I would suspect that they intended to have an inner array such as arr[3
20160516 11:51:29< Sapient> arr[3]._array
20160516 11:51:35< zookeeper> oh wait, nevermind what i said.
20160516 11:52:02< gfgtdf> Sapient: so you vote for giving an error ?
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20160516 11:52:56< Sapient> I think an error would probably be helpful when they try to code something illogical
20160516 11:53:00< zookeeper> i'd just append to the end and maybe print a warning in the log
20160516 11:54:33< Sapient> but under my old philosophy of code forgiveness I probably would have just silently created arr[3]._array
20160516 11:55:45< zookeeper> i'd think appending to the end is more forgiving
20160516 11:57:30< Sapient> hmm, well I guess so if they had changed it to append and forgot to remove the explicit index specifier
20160516 11:58:03< Sapient> that's a reasonable behavior as any
20160516 11:58:34< irker071> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master f5fbb3872a4d / data/gui/widget/panel_wml_message.cfg: Disable [message] blurring once again pending further testing https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f5fbb3872a4d58e85029ad703ad733f93b652947
20160516 11:58:37< irker071> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 07fee4038b5c / data/gui/widget/button_default.cfg: Improve visual design of buttons https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/07fee4038b5c0116a1f1ecb9b589303e506ead6d
20160516 11:58:54 * vultraz is too lazy to debug blurring right now
20160516 11:59:21< Sapient> vultraz: any hints why scons and cmake aren't finding my SDL libraries?
20160516 11:59:34< vultraz> None, since I use neither.
20160516 12:00:52< vultraz> Only thing I could suggest is the general "make sure they're installed in the directory the toolchain checks in, and if not, see if there's an argument to specify path"
20160516 12:07:02< Sapient> yeah, it tells me "Perhaps you should add the directory containing `sdl2.pc'to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable"
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20160516 12:17:28< Sapient> I found sdl.pc but no sdl2.pc in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig
20160516 12:20:53< vultraz> then you must not have the right package
20160516 12:26:32< Sapient> hmm, no I'm pretty sure I installed the right package. I see the libsdl2 libraries. It's just missing the sdl2 pkg-config source file
20160516 12:27:33< Sapient> somehow I expected this to be less complicated -_-;
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20160516 12:40:12< Sapient> yeah apparently I was supposed to install libsdl2-dev not libsdl2-2.0-0 (although the former wasn't listed in the Software Center)
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20160516 12:44:15< Sapient> on https://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnoth it says it should be enough to use sudo apt-get build-dep wesnoth
20160516 12:44:23< Sapient> but apparently not...
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20160516 12:52:48< Sapient> I probably would have saved a lot of time by using "apt-cache search sdl2" instead of the Ubuntu Software Center. lesson learned
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20160516 13:04:00< irker071> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master adb37f3a53ed / data/campaigns/tutorial/ (14 files in 3 dirs): Updated tutorial with new Li'sar sprite https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/adb37f3a53edba6924d5c45e28dae2799c5064bf
20160516 13:19:01< vultraz> for some damn reason, I always see the old Quintain sprite in the Tutorial (and I know this only happens for me)
20160516 13:19:03< vultraz> sadness
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20160516 13:23:04< zookeeper> eh?
20160516 13:23:30< zookeeper> maybe remove the guilty add-on then? :p
20160516 13:25:13< vultraz> It's not an addon
20160516 13:25:24< vultraz> causing it, that is
20160516 13:26:18< zookeeper> uh...
20160516 13:26:55< zookeeper> well in any case it's something that you can locate and fix
20160516 13:28:31< vultraz> (why did you leave the old animations in Httt but not the tutorial)
20160516 13:28:41< vultraz> (old lisar animaitons, that is)
20160516 13:28:43< vultraz> (animations)
20160516 13:29:45< zookeeper> for reference and because they're utilized in UMC (even though they shouldn't) much more often. don't worry, i'll remove them sometime during 1.13.
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20160516 13:31:58< vultraz> oh, looks like it indeed is an addon 
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20160516 17:04:39< shadowm>  08:44:16          Sapient> on https://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnoth it says it should be enough to use sudo apt-get build-dep wesnoth
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20160516 17:04:48< shadowm> Obviously, since the dependencies have changed since 1.12.0...
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20160516 21:02:54< shadowm> <zookeeper> Ravana_, this? https://gna.org/bugs/?23117
20160516 21:02:57< shadowm> Well...
20160516 21:03:04< shadowm> !commit 192612800cc2edec23d5da336b70dd421f535643
20160516 21:03:05< shikadibot> shadowm: Revision 192612800cc2 (gfgtdf) on Fri Mar 27 20:18:02 2015:
20160516 21:03:05< shikadibot> shadowm: Merge pull request #390 from Randypk/bugFix23117
20160516 21:03:05< shikadibot> shadowm:  
20160516 21:03:05< shikadibot> shadowm: Bug Fix #23117: Invert breaks lobby filtering if Apply Filter is off.
20160516 21:03:08< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/192612800cc2
20160516 21:03:41< shadowm> It's mildly entertaining given gfgtdf's comment two months later.
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20160516 21:05:33< shadowm> 20160516 16:59:30 error network: Destroing playturn_network_adapter with an non empty buffer, this means loss of network data
20160516 21:05:42< shadowm> I vaguely remember asking for this to be demoted to info level.
20160516 21:14:10< Aginor> looks like I have a wiki-page to edit
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20160516 21:20:26< irker258> wesnoth: Randypk wesnoth:1.12 300a81403280 / changelog players_changelog src/multiplayer_lobby.cpp: BugFix#: 23117 Remove filter_lobby check from game_matches_filter function and c https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/300a81403280d8d5a858d74dbda55f5240729f56
20160516 21:21:17< shadowm> zookeeper, Ravana_: ^
20160516 21:21:26< zookeeper> great
20160516 21:26:00< irker258> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:1.12 050d1822f450 / src/playturn_network_adapter.cpp: Demote spurious network error message to info log level https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/050d1822f450c4d2db9345d10ba39831cafa3b8f
20160516 21:26:03< irker258> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:1.12 3ef45dbba45d / changelog: Fix typos https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3ef45dbba45ddee860a8de44d2f863cf99d281ba
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