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20160520 01:01:34< shadowm> vultraz: Okay, so if ancestral doesn't show up within the 72 hours window, do you want me to announce 1.12.6 without the OS X package, or do you leave that decision to me?
20160520 01:01:51< vultraz> announce without the package
20160520 01:02:17< shadowm> ... So that's your decision, then.
20160520 01:02:30< vultraz> It has been done before.
20160520 01:03:09< shadowm> I know I have done it before, I was simply wondering if you would leave the decision to me or not.
20160520 01:03:39< celticminstrel> I think that's a weird question.
20160520 01:03:54< shadowm> It's not.
20160520 01:04:01< celticminstrel> Shrug.
20160520 01:04:16< shadowm> This is the basis for the question, third paragraph under the subject: https://wiki.wesnoth.org/ReleasingWesnoth#Stable_version
20160520 01:04:35< shadowm> And this isn't a thing I invented, either.
20160520 01:05:05< shadowm> But this is the first time I'm somehow simultaneously in charge of a release process and subservient to someone else.
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20160520 01:05:12< celticminstrel> I think maybe you misunderstood me.
20160520 01:05:24< celticminstrel> Or maybe not.
20160520 01:05:28< shadowm> So I must ask to make sure I'm not stepping on my overlord's toes.
20160520 01:05:34< celticminstrel> Whatever.
20160520 01:05:57< celticminstrel> Well, I suppose it does make sense, in a way.
20160520 01:06:03< shadowm> If it were up to me I'd figuratively roll a die after the 72 hours window.
20160520 01:06:20< shadowm> And then maybe ignore the outcome depending on my mood.
20160520 01:07:50< shadowm> :| Actually, I guess this isn't the first time I'm in this position.
20160520 01:08:06< shadowm> It's just that when I was there before, we had a more responsive OS X packager.
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20160520 01:40:20< shadowm> mattsc: AI has aggression 1.0, caution 0.0, prefers melee attacks instead of ranged against a unit without any ranged attacks. Is this normal?
20160520 01:41:00< shadowm> Considering that it can receive more damage in retaliation than the damage it can deal this way.
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20160520 12:43:11< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 2ba7ad5c439c / data/ (core/macros/abilities.cfg lua/feeding.lua lua/wml-tags.lua): move feedung event to lua https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2ba7ad5c439c5ed5414654262e17608b1cc4c332
20160520 12:43:11< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 5de1d9b0462e / data/lua/wml/random_placement.lua: optimise [random_placement] https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5de1d9b0462e2935d1301f64854f1005afbe1af5
20160520 12:43:11< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master a74fd01d2e11 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/ (scenarios/chapter1/02_Hostile_Mountains.cfg utils/low-macros.cfg): cleanup olurf [side] wml in LoW scenario2 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a74fd01d2e1142217a6064f3e2f57e424cdc3d77
20160520 12:43:12< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 970439eb185e / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter3/11_Battle_of_the_Book.cfg: more gold in LoW MP scenario 11 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/970439eb185ee19073b4dd085e1db5ba5d42ca53
20160520 12:43:13< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 2ec12a65930b / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/scenarios/chapter3/10_Cliffs_of_Thoria.cfg: LoW scenario10: add fog for other human sides aswell https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2ec12a65930bf5b1401c3b8a8d79c7ac898e5841
20160520 12:43:15< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 7e82419890bd / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/utils/debug.cfg: remove debug.cfg from LoW https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7e82419890bdb957712acdd1d78ab2c14db40ba5
20160520 12:43:17< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 786d1ce66f65 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/ (17 files in 6 dirs): more LoW cleanups https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/786d1ce66f656f6dad6fd8af84968d164f086341
20160520 12:43:19< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 2ff38262e6e3 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/lua/wml_tags.lua: remove some empty lines in LoW wml-tags.lua https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2ff38262e6e3a1a83c7b7d8f9c25d218a853a8a3
20160520 12:43:21< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 392a0bd8f8bc / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/ (8 files in 6 dirs): move LoW persistent carryover code to lua https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/392a0bd8f8bc76ebd5abaf9687ed636f1f09a72b
20160520 12:43:23< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 267cd23ea5a0 / data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/utils/low-macros.cfg: fix LoW RANDOM_PLACEMENT macro https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/267cd23ea5a0923c636da14966be05eab8fc04ce
20160520 12:47:17 * zookeeper tries
20160520 12:48:14< zookeeper> although checking the commit messages for typos in key words would be good so the commits could actually be found when searching the commit log :P
20160520 12:49:49< vultraz> dammit gfgtdf why did you remove my formatting newlines :|
20160520 12:51:41< vultraz> you have the unfortunate habit of not using blank lines at all
20160520 12:51:59< zookeeper> vultraz, when will we have the nice new 7x3 attack format everywhere?
20160520 12:52:14< vultraz> you approve of it?
20160520 12:52:20< zookeeper> uh, yeah
20160520 12:52:30< zookeeper> i thought i was in support of it
20160520 12:59:05< irker273> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 6aaab67b3c3c / src/ (gui/widgets/unit_preview_pane.cpp marked-up_text.cpp): Use U+2715 (unicode multiplication sign) as standard attack damage/strike separa https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6aaab67b3c3c41316a0802cc739aaef853a98a3a
20160520 12:59:11< vultraz> zookeeper: ^
20160520 12:59:14< vultraz> it is done
20160520 13:00:48< zookeeper> :o
20160520 13:01:20< vultraz> what, you thought it would be complicated?
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20160520 13:04:20< zookeeper> i thought it'd be more complicated than that, yeah
20160520 13:06:15< irker273> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 1b7244186ed0 / attic/unused.cfg: Delete attic/unused.cfg https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1b7244186ed0d1b7602e70124e121d01b5498527
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20160520 13:10:50< zookeeper> vultraz, now the marker's just gone entirely
20160520 13:11:02< zookeeper> ancient wose with 252 crush
20160520 13:11:15< zookeeper> wolf rider, 53 fangs
20160520 13:11:36< zookeeper> the dash shows up in the unit description help though
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20160520 13:23:49< vultraz> zookeeper: whut
20160520 13:24:13< vultraz> how is this possible
20160520 13:24:16< vultraz> it works for me 
20160520 13:27:43< zookeeper> a true mystery
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20160520 17:40:43< zookeeper> so who screwed up what?
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20160520 21:13:36< mattsc> shadowm: with aggression=1, the AI disregards the damage it receives from the defender and only considers the damage it does itself.  So yes, that might be normal, depending on the AI unit’s melee and ranged attacks.
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20160520 23:19:36< shadowm> mattsc: Sigh, okay then.
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