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20160524 00:29:44< celticminstrel> How would I make a unit that can attack but not move?
20160524 00:30:19< celticminstrel> Apparently setting movement to 0 (with an [effect]) does not work.
20160524 00:31:32< zookeeper> give it 1MP but >1 movement costs on all terrain, or take its moves away in a turn refresh event
20160524 00:31:45< celticminstrel> Ah, movement costs, I can do that.
20160524 00:34:47< celticminstrel> It's slightly misleading since they still have a green orb... oh well.
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20160524 00:52:13< celticminstrel> Apparently variable substitution does not occur in [event]name=
20160524 00:52:29< celticminstrel> Is there some other way of scheduling something to happen N turns from now?
20160524 00:52:44< shadowm> It does for nested events.
20160524 00:52:58< shadowm> Need to use delayed_variable_substitution=no I think, not sure.
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20160524 00:53:03< celticminstrel> Oh, hmm.
20160524 00:53:22< zookeeper> that, or a variable + [filter_condition]
20160524 00:53:37< shadowm> That's not variable substitution.
20160524 00:53:45< celticminstrel> Which event needs to be dvs then...
20160524 00:54:16< celticminstrel> Or, not dvs I guess.
20160524 00:54:16< zookeeper> shadowm, "that" == nested event
20160524 00:54:34< celticminstrel> Oh, wait.
20160524 00:54:47< celticminstrel> I forgot to quote my formula.
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20160524 00:57:39< celticminstrel> If you ask me, the name key should be treated as special and always variable-substituted for [event] as ActionWML.
20160524 00:58:47< zookeeper> i wouldn't mind
20160524 00:58:47< celticminstrel> (The same goes for anything else within [event] that is not itself ActionWML, except filters since they might use $this_unit or whatever.)
20160524 00:59:14< celticminstrel> [filter_condition] might be fine though.
20160524 00:59:27< shadowm> So what else does [event] take that isn't an action or filter?
20160524 00:59:50< celticminstrel> Well, delayed_variable_substitution itself fits those criteria.
20160524 00:59:53< shadowm> The attributes, I guess.
20160524 01:00:11< celticminstrel> Though I guess it's not very useful to variable-substitute it.
20160524 01:01:35< celticminstrel> Okay, works with dvs=no and quoted name.
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20160524 03:21:42< ancestral> Is there a language-changing bug in 1.12.x?
20160524 03:21:52< ancestral> I know it was fixed more recently
20160524 03:22:14 * shadowm rubs temples.
20160524 03:22:28< ancestral> Well, I’m changing languages
20160524 03:22:35< ancestral> And they ain’t changing after once
20160524 03:22:58 * ancestral goes look
20160524 03:23:05< shadowm> Works for me.
20160524 03:26:16< celticminstrel> Might need to restart Wesnoth for a language change to take effect, sometimes.
20160524 03:26:39< shadowm> Why?
20160524 03:26:55< celticminstrel> I dunno, I just vaguely remember that that helped once.
20160524 03:27:11< shadowm> I thought we were working with computers, not magic.
20160524 03:28:07< celticminstrel> Uhh... Clarke's Law? >_>
20160524 03:28:31< ancestral> https://gna.org/bugs/?13878
20160524 03:28:35< shadowm> That says more about the observers than the technology itself.
20160524 03:28:38< ancestral> I think maybe not for 1.12
20160524 03:28:46< celticminstrel> True, true.
20160524 03:29:17< ancestral> Restarting Wesnoth always fixes the language bug
20160524 03:29:36< shadowm> Then reopoen it and get someone to work on it, I don't know.
20160524 03:30:03< ancestral> It’s fixed in 1.13
20160524 03:30:08< ancestral> Do you care to fix it for 1.12?
20160524 03:30:14< ancestral> Because I don’t so much
20160524 03:30:19< shadowm> If you tell me what commit needs to be backported, then yes.
20160524 03:30:25< ancestral> That I don’t know
20160524 03:30:30< ancestral> Alright, I’ll re-open it
20160524 03:30:38< celticminstrel> If it's simple to fix, then I'd say yes, do so.
20160524 03:31:17< shadowm> To my knowledge (although I'm largely ignorant of what's been going on in master since vultraz took over) the i18n platform is largely identical between 1.12 and master.
20160524 03:31:23< celticminstrel> If it was fixed as a result of architecture changes (though that seems unlikely since that's not an area that has seen much change as far as I know), then it wouldn't be worth it.
20160524 03:31:31< shadowm> So it's hopefully not a very involved change.
20160524 03:31:55< celticminstrel> This reminds me that we were supposed to do something with iceiceice's po loader.
20160524 03:31:58< shadowm> s/i18n/l10n/
20160524 03:32:06< celticminstrel> But I don't even know where to find it.
20160524 03:32:26< shadowm> celticminstrel: https://github.com/cbeck88/spirit-po
20160524 03:32:33< celticminstrel> I suppose I could search through github or som– or you could link it, sure.
20160524 03:34:17< celticminstrel> I suppose I'll see if it compiles for me.
20160524 03:36:44< celticminstrel> Okay, so it doesn't compile as-is, but that might be just because my clang defaults to C++98 or whatever.
20160524 03:37:14< celticminstrel> Because I thought I had std::forward available...
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20160524 03:38:36< celticminstrel> Or because it defaults to GNU C++ lib which I have a more outdated version of.
20160524 03:40:06< celticminstrel> So yay, it works and tests pass, so maybe I'll look at integrating it soon...
20160524 03:40:31< shadowm> Our Glorious Leader will surely approve of that.
20160524 03:40:39< ancestral> About to upload
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20160524 03:41:17< ancestral> 391.2 MB
20160524 03:42:10< shadowm> Please do not forget the SHA256 in f.w.o/releases/
20160524 03:42:18< ancestral> Yep
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20160524 04:37:02< ancestral> Done
20160524 04:40:50 * vultraz makes note to poke iceiceice the next time he's around about implementing SpiritPo
20160524 04:43:32< vultraz> (that is, as if celticminstrel doesn't find out the correct implementation first)
20160524 04:44:25< celticminstrel> Seems like it would mostly be a case of hunting down all gettext calls and replacing them with something different. Which may even touch only a couple of files.
20160524 04:44:56< vultraz> If it's that simple, by all means go ahead
20160524 04:45:05< celticminstrel> (The something different may not exactly be spirit-po calls though - maybe we want to stick with mo-files for the mainline translations.)
20160524 04:45:18< vultraz> why?
20160524 04:45:22< celticminstrel> I'm not sure yet if it's that simple.
20160524 04:45:43< celticminstrel> And for why, I'm not sure of that either.
20160524 04:45:51< vultraz> Removing the need for mo files makes our maintenance process simpler.
20160524 04:47:00< celticminstrel> In any case, I would run it through a pull request.
20160524 04:47:09< vultraz> obviously
20160524 04:47:23< vultraz> it would really be nice to have iceiceice's feedback
20160524 04:48:03< celticminstrel> Eh, I don't care too much about that honestly.
20160524 04:51:48< celticminstrel> I don't feel qualified to make the decision of whether to abandon mo files entirely. I'd want feedback from translators (or at least Ivanovic) on that.
20160524 04:52:40< celticminstrel> If iceiceice has anything to say about that, mind you, I'd be happy to hear it.
20160524 04:53:10< vultraz> I meant iceiceice's feedback on the appropriate implementation process
20160524 04:53:13< vultraz> Not the mo files
20160524 04:58:11< shadowm> ancestral: Please post a reply to the thread while I edit the OP.
20160524 04:58:17< ancestral> Okay
20160524 04:58:54< shadowm> ancestral: The .sha256 file doesn't have a filename column.
20160524 04:59:56< ancestral> f.w.o or sf?
20160524 05:00:10< shadowm> f.w.o, probably both?
20160524 05:00:55< ancestral> Ah, a row is missing
20160524 05:00:56< ancestral> Okay
20160524 05:01:19< shadowm> Column.
20160524 05:04:18< ancestral> Column?
20160524 05:04:27< ancestral> There is no new line?
20160524 05:04:51< shadowm> Row 1 Column 1     Row 1 Column 2
20160524 05:04:57< shadowm> Row 2 Column 1     Row 2 Column 2
20160524 05:05:09< ancestral> Okay
20160524 05:05:21< shadowm> That's how it works to my knowledge, I really hope I've not been living a lie all these years.
20160524 05:05:23< ancestral> Two spaces between the columns
20160524 05:06:11< shadowm> Front page, wiki, and OP updated
20160524 05:06:50< ancestral> Okay should have fixed that
20160524 05:07:27< shadowm> Seems like SF.net has https now, hm.
20160524 05:07:40< ancestral> Thank the new management I guess
20160524 05:12:12< shadowm> OK, made wiki.w.o/Download use https for all links.
20160524 05:12:19< shadowm> ... download links, that is.
20160524 05:12:34< shadowm> Download links created using the DownloadItem template.
20160524 05:12:41< shadowm> Stuff that matters.
20160524 05:15:04< shadowm> Ugh, why does the email containing the notification for your bug report action require approval...
20160524 05:15:29< shadowm> Oh, too many recipients, okay.
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20160524 05:16:01< shadowm> ancestral, you  didn't reopen it, you only changed its state.
20160524 05:16:22< ancestral> Hmm?
20160524 05:16:55< shadowm> The bug report.
20160524 05:17:26< shadowm> ... is that a thing you can do, actually...
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20160524 05:17:49< shadowm> I guess you can since you were able to change its status.
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20160524 05:19:11< ancestral> Oh
20160524 05:19:14< ancestral> The bug report
20160524 05:19:26< ancestral> Now I know what you’re talking about
20160524 05:20:02< ancestral> Fixed that
20160524 05:20:22< shadowm> The bug report. The bug report. The bug report. :p
20160524 05:20:56< ancestral> Hey, it will reach its 7-year anniversary in less than two months!
20160524 05:21:23< ancestral> Wow, 1.6
20160524 05:21:55< shadowm> Yeah, it doesn't help that the people with the technical know-how to deal with this stuff don't ever seem to use OS X for some reason.
20160524 05:21:55< ancestral> (That’s the version of Wesnoth back then when I wrote the bug report)
20160524 05:22:29< ancestral> Ideally I would know how/what to fix this
20160524 05:22:43< ancestral> But! I have fixed a couple of my own bugs, so that’s not too bad
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20160524 06:02:39< Ivanovic> vultraz, celticminstrel: on the other hand the compiling of the po files is the only sanity check we have
20160524 06:03:32< Ivanovic> i would say in about 5% of the updates I receive the compiling of the po files highlights an issue before uploading the po files
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20160524 19:11:59< Elvish_Hunter> Hi
20160524 19:13:36< Elvish_Hunter> loonycyborg: do you mind if I reassign PR #616 (bootstrap.py) to you, since you're more competent than me about Windows compilation?
20160524 19:32:22< loonycyborg> ok
20160524 19:35:06< Elvish_Hunter> Done.
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20160524 22:08:36< SigurdFD> vultraz: The unicode multiplication sign commit causes the same problem for me that zookeeper mentioned. I am on Win 7 x64 OS / scons compile
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20160524 22:19:53< vultraz> SigurdFD: interesting...
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