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20160528 04:29:59< Exkywor> Hi, is Ancestral online?
20160528 04:30:10< ancestral> Exkywor: Hi there!
20160528 04:30:13< ancestral> :)
20160528 04:30:14< Exkywor> HI
20160528 04:30:38< Exkywor> what time is it where you are?
20160528 04:31:53< Exkywor> lets talk about the trailer
20160528 04:32:26< ancestral> 11:30
20160528 04:32:30< ancestral> Sure
20160528 04:33:37< Exkywor> am or pm?
20160528 04:33:38< Exkywor> so
20160528 04:33:41< Exkywor> i saw your trailer
20160528 04:33:45< ancestral> PM
20160528 04:33:48< ancestral> Yeah
20160528 04:33:54< ancestral> What do you think it needs?
20160528 04:34:41< Exkywor> first of all i think there are two things that can be improved
20160528 04:34:44< Exkywor> pacing
20160528 04:35:05< Exkywor> and showing off the game
20160528 04:35:18< ancestral> We do need more video capture
20160528 04:35:27< ancestral> I wouldn’t mind more small bits of action
20160528 04:35:45< Exkywor> yeah, it would be nice in order to show more about the game
20160528 04:35:49< ancestral> How are you with screen recording software?
20160528 04:36:09< Exkywor> i never tried doing that, but it shouldn't be hard
20160528 04:36:45< Exkywor> i work as a graphic designer and doing videos
20160528 04:37:08< ancestral> What OS are you using?
20160528 04:37:13< Exkywor> Windows
20160528 04:37:16< ancestral> sure
20160528 04:37:30< ancestral> Okay, so, here’s what I’ve been doing, and I think it’s worked fine
20160528 04:37:38< Exkywor> go on
20160528 04:38:04< ancestral> I’ve relied on game replays. So basically, setting up a game/scenario and afterward, loading the replay and recording that
20160528 04:39:46< ancestral> And then when I need to queue up a certain point where I want to do something manually, pause the game, and do it
20160528 04:39:46< ancestral> For example, showing off how to attack with a unit
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20160528 04:39:51< ancestral> And record those parts
20160528 04:39:52< Exkywor> i think we can use the debug system
20160528 04:39:58< celmin|sleep> Maybe you want software that can capture the mouse cursor, then.
20160528 04:39:58< Exkywor> you can create units
20160528 04:39:59< ancestral> And capture the audio too at the same time
20160528 04:40:02< Exkywor> change their hp
20160528 04:40:14< ancestral> That’s true, it’s certainly possible
20160528 04:40:15< celmin|sleep> You probably should be showing off non-replay gameplay in any case.
20160528 04:40:26< Exkywor> yeah
20160528 04:40:41< ancestral> I’ve been focusing on real in-game appearances, but yes, the sky’s the limit
20160528 04:40:47< Exkywor> yup
20160528 04:40:47< Exkywor> so
20160528 04:40:49< ancestral> appearances -> experiences
20160528 04:41:07< Exkywor> here are a couple of things that i think can be done
20160528 04:41:18< ancestral> If we had many more small bits of video capture, with or even without sound, that would save me so much time and work
20160528 04:41:24< Exkywor> the most important part is to tell the viewer why they should be playing the game
20160528 04:41:31< celmin|sleep> You wouldn't record the use of debug mode. It would just be a tool to get a nice encounter set up.
20160528 04:41:38< Exkywor> yup
20160528 04:41:39< celmin|sleep> Which you can then record.
20160528 04:41:40< ancestral> Correct
20160528 04:41:49< Exkywor> for example
20160528 04:41:55< ancestral> Exkywor: So yes, what features are good to show off?
20160528 04:41:59< Exkywor> i think it is important to show the different factions
20160528 04:42:22< celmin|sleep> Hm, I get the impression that I'm just saying things you both already knew, so I guess I'll go live up to the current nickname.
20160528 04:42:25< Exkywor> so we can create a show off of each faction units using the debug mode
20160528 04:42:42< Exkywor> hahahah, naa, the more ideas the better
20160528 04:42:58< ancestral> celmin|sleep: l don’t mind :)
20160528 04:43:00< celmin|sleep> No need to show all units, though.
20160528 04:43:16< Exkywor> yeah, but you can show like the coolest
20160528 04:43:24< celmin|sleep> Well I really should sleep, it's quarter to one... but it's kinda hot which makes it ahrd.
20160528 04:43:33< Exkywor> srry pal
20160528 04:43:35< ancestral> celmin|sleep: Do whatever you want
20160528 04:43:36< celmin|sleep> A few units of each race maybe.
20160528 04:43:42< celmin|sleep> ^hard
20160528 04:43:46< Exkywor> one thing that is missing in the trailer is the story
20160528 04:43:52< Exkywor> lore
20160528 04:43:58< Exkywor> wesnoth lore is deep and epic
20160528 04:43:59< ancestral> You can record the units in dialogue with one another. There are plenty of mainline scenarios where units are “talking” to each other.
20160528 04:44:03< celmin|sleep> People probably don't agree on what the coolest units are though. :P
20160528 04:44:06< ancestral> This shows off their large portraits too
20160528 04:44:16< celmin|sleep> For lore you could how the storyscreen to HTTT S1 maybe?
20160528 04:44:23< celmin|sleep> ^show
20160528 04:44:23< ancestral> (And our [excellent, heh] storytelling
20160528 04:44:24< Exkywor> mmm
20160528 04:44:28< Exkywor> not really
20160528 04:44:40< Exkywor> i think we can say something like
20160528 04:45:15< Exkywor> Experience a rich story
20160528 04:45:16< ancestral> I meant just one instance of a dialogue
20160528 04:45:24< Exkywor> and fight the battle for wesnoth
20160528 04:45:52< pydsigner> Maybe HtTT's final scenario's closing with Konrad landing the killing blow?
20160528 04:46:01< Exkywor> could be
20160528 04:46:04< Exkywor> we need to make it epic
20160528 04:46:05< Exkywor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkLoeXw1XVY
20160528 04:46:10< Exkywor> go to second 28
20160528 04:46:24< Exkywor> and watch from there
20160528 04:46:36 * celmin|sleep out of ideas for now, sleeping, Maybe more later if you're still at it.
20160528 04:46:39< Exkywor> i can help doing text like that
20160528 04:49:09< ancestral> Having meaningful titles is good
20160528 04:49:57< ancestral> I think we need more impactful scenes. Like a unit leveling up after killing an enemy
20160528 04:50:25< Exkywor> yeah, that would be nice too
20160528 04:50:27< ancestral> Showing off cool attack animation on a unit
20160528 04:50:27< Exkywor> so
20160528 04:50:43< Exkywor> what about if we structure the trailer to see what to add
20160528 04:50:46< Exkywor> what to take away
20160528 04:50:55< Exkywor> where to add things?
20160528 04:51:15< Exkywor> btw, what software are you using?
20160528 04:51:24< ancestral> Keynote, hehe
20160528 04:51:41< ancestral> I’m intending to throw this into iMovie and iron out the pacing there
20160528 04:51:43< pydsigner> I thought you were dumping that
20160528 04:52:15< Exkywor> i use Davinci Resolve for editing and Fusion for motion graphics
20160528 04:52:27< ancestral> I don’t want to go too crazy here
20160528 04:52:34< Exkywor> hehe
20160528 04:52:39< ancestral> If you can make titles or text feel like it would fit in the game, that’s gresat
20160528 04:52:57< Exkywor> i think that if we cn go crazy let's go crazy
20160528 04:53:00< ancestral> But this is high fantasy, and the emphasis, I feel like, needs to be on the gameplay
20160528 04:53:01< Exkywor> can*
20160528 04:53:05< Exkywor> yeah
20160528 04:53:09< Exkywor> that's true
20160528 04:53:18< ancestral> So I’m totally cool with something fitting in with the style
20160528 04:53:30< ancestral> We’re showing off a game
20160528 04:53:38< ancestral> after all
20160528 04:54:12< ancestral> We shouldn’t need to put in special effects because… the game has great visuals
20160528 04:54:41< Exkywor> yeah, what i mean is that we can do some text transitions and a couple of graphics
20160528 04:54:47< Exkywor> to help explain things
20160528 04:54:48< ancestral> (However, if you want particle-like effects, feel free to contribute to Wesnoth! 😛)
20160528 04:54:54< Exkywor> or show off stuff
20160528 04:55:06< Exkywor> did u watch the video i sent?
20160528 04:55:49< ancestral> Yeah, I did
20160528 04:56:27< Exkywor> ok, it isn't a too flashy video
20160528 04:56:50< Exkywor> the core of it is the show it is showing
20160528 04:56:56< ancestral> Yeah, it’s not the same kind of video, of course
20160528 04:57:02< Exkywor> of course
20160528 04:57:38< Exkywor> i think something like this as an example
20160528 04:58:34< Exkywor> - Text off gameplay - "Fight in epic battles"
20160528 04:58:43< Exkywor> - Gameplay video -
20160528 04:59:41< Exkywor> - Text off gameplay - Command your troops
20160528 04:59:49< Exkywor> - Gameplay video -
20160528 05:00:00< hk238> D:
20160528 05:00:01< Exkywor> - Text off gameplay - An fight
20160528 05:00:08< Exkywor> - gameplay video -
20160528 05:00:21< Exkywor> - Text off gameplay - the battle
20160528 05:00:29< Exkywor> - Gameplay video -
20160528 05:00:34< Exkywor> - Text off gameplay - For wesnoth
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20160528 05:00:53< Exkywor> - A couple of fast paced gameplay videos -
20160528 05:00:58< ancestral> hk238: Hi
20160528 05:01:02< Exkywor> - Wesnoth logo appears - 
20160528 05:01:03< Exkywor> Hi
20160528 05:01:29< Exkywor> - Fade off to screen with website and OS where it is available
20160528 05:01:49< ancestral> I can see the trailer building up at the end, that’s not a bad idea.
20160528 05:01:55< hk238> I think a lot of trailers are like that
20160528 05:02:00< Exkywor> yeah
20160528 05:02:03< Exkywor> and for a reason
20160528 05:02:06< hk238> which is not a bad thing necessarily
20160528 05:02:09< Exkywor> because they catch your attention
20160528 05:02:17< hk238> depends on what your aim is 
20160528 05:02:18< Exkywor> show what the game is about in an epic way
20160528 05:02:23< Exkywor> and make you want to play the game
20160528 05:02:33< Exkywor> yeah
20160528 05:02:37< hk238> but is wesnoth the same type of game?
20160528 05:03:01< hk238> I think a lot of those games are like WoW or Guild WArs or GTA or such
20160528 05:03:04< hk238> which are kind of very dynamic
20160528 05:03:16< Exkywor> well you have a good point
20160528 05:03:24< Exkywor> that just made me rethink eveything i said
20160528 05:03:53< ancestral> Still, you’re on to something
20160528 05:04:05< ancestral> Anyway, we just need a “good enough” trailer
20160528 05:04:06< Exkywor> maybe
20160528 05:04:11< hk238> yeah I think that structure is what you usually have. there's a coarse male voice saying thos eshort sentences
20160528 05:04:13< ancestral> And we can make a kick-ass one later
20160528 05:04:25< Exkywor> but what about if we can make one now?
20160528 05:04:25< hk238> then there's some animation or clip with some epic action 
20160528 05:04:28< Exkywor> i'm eager to help
20160528 05:04:33< ancestral> Cool
20160528 05:04:59< ancestral> It sounds like you want to own up to the titles, which is cool
20160528 05:05:14< ancestral> I do need help with in-game captures though
20160528 05:05:29< Exkywor> let's fo something
20160528 05:05:35< Exkywor> let's create a structure for the video
20160528 05:05:38< Exkywor> to see what we need
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20160528 05:05:49< Exkywor> and then let's create gameplay that fits those needs
20160528 05:05:52< hk238> wesnoth.. it's like chess, but you've to wait for each player to make their move.
20160528 05:05:53< hk238> :D
20160528 05:06:32< Exkywor> yeah, maybe instead of showing the text off maybe we can keep it the way ancestral already have improving some pacing and gameplay
20160528 05:06:38< hk238> sorry that's a joke, but that's probably the worst part about a game with many players, the time is proportional to number of players :o
20160528 05:06:50< hk238> also applies to all other turn based games
20160528 05:06:55< pydsigner> ancestral do you not have footage recording ability?
20160528 05:07:02< ancestral> Oh I do
20160528 05:07:11< ancestral> Two things that stink for me
20160528 05:07:57< ancestral> 1. The computer I record on isn’t fantastic with graphics, meaning I have a limitation on screen res. Depending on what we’re showcasing, that may not be an issue… or it might be
20160528 05:08:34< ancestral> I’m talking about, say, 5 fps for some animations instead of like 30 if the res is too high for my computer to handle
20160528 05:08:40< pydsigner> Provide replays and someone else can provide the raw footage
20160528 05:08:54< ancestral> 2. Generating the content and scenes.
20160528 05:09:14< Exkywor> that's where i come in
20160528 05:09:34< Exkywor> i want to say this in a way that doesn't look like i'm trying to show off or something
20160528 05:09:40< Exkywor> but my machine has the power
20160528 05:09:43< Exkywor> i have the software
20160528 05:09:52< Exkywor> and a little bit of knowledge
20160528 05:09:55< Exkywor> let's use it
20160528 05:10:36< ancestral> So if you can do #1 or #2, or both, that would be great
20160528 05:10:53< ancestral> If it’s #2, create a save and I can run a replay and record
20160528 05:11:01< hk238> Speaking of which, simultanous turns mod would be pretty awesome
20160528 05:11:04< ancestral> (I or you)
20160528 05:11:11< hk238> if you could come up with a game logic that works, that'd make everything much more fun
20160528 05:11:18< ancestral> hk238: Oh dontcha know…
20160528 05:11:30< Exkywor> that's a very different topic
20160528 05:11:44< Exkywor> yeah ancestral, i think i can help with both
20160528 05:11:46< ancestral> Feel free to look that up on the forums
20160528 05:11:48< hk238> no I dont, ancestral :D
20160528 05:11:51< ancestral> ^
20160528 05:12:08< hk238> someone tried such? I definitely have to look that up! ^ ^
20160528 05:12:13< Exkywor> i love this game and if my abilities and resources can be used to help it grow i'm more than glad to help
20160528 05:12:13< ancestral> Exkywor: Great!
20160528 05:12:33< ancestral> So my goal is by Tuesday to clean up the pacing of what I’ve got
20160528 05:12:41< ancestral> Then we can change/add content
20160528 05:12:46< Exkywor> ok
20160528 05:12:57< Exkywor> can u bring an structure we can work on?
20160528 05:13:02< ancestral> Feel free to check in with me sooner if you like
20160528 05:13:08< Exkywor> to see what else to add/change?
20160528 05:13:13< ancestral> Yes
20160528 05:13:18< ancestral> Give me a few minutes
20160528 05:13:21< Exkywor> ok
20160528 05:13:35< Exkywor> so, u guys are the devs of this game?
20160528 05:14:00< Exkywor> dumb question, hehe
20160528 05:14:09< hk238> hmm
20160528 05:14:25< ancestral> Exkywor: The users are the developers, relaly
20160528 05:14:27< ancestral> *really
20160528 05:14:39< pydsigner> I'm a minor contributor I guess
20160528 05:14:51< ancestral> This isn’t a paying job. No one is strictly making money.
20160528 05:15:33< hk238> has someone made the mod or something? I've trouble finding anything relevant on the forums :o
20160528 05:15:41< Exkywor> yeah, that's the cool thing about it
20160528 05:16:12< Exkywor> i started playing this game like 8 years ago
20160528 05:17:20< ancestral> hk238: http://r.wesnoth.org/t29683
20160528 05:17:46< ancestral> Basically, it requires work that no one has been able/willing/had time to do
20160528 05:17:55< ancestral> Likely a lot of work
20160528 05:18:09< hk238> oh yeah 
20160528 05:18:17< ancestral> And syncing everything up. Last time I checked, the server doesn’t manage the game, it’s client-to-client
20160528 05:18:21< hk238> that's kind of what I mean, you'd need to come up with a logic that works
20160528 05:18:34< ancestral> Exkywor: Okay
20160528 05:18:44< ancestral> Snippets that might be good to capture in the game
20160528 05:19:16< hk238> it would be pretty nice though
20160528 05:19:17< ancestral> * Cool fighting animations from large beasts, like the large dragon, yeti, or other large thing
20160528 05:19:37< ancestral> * Delfador’s lightning effect
20160528 05:19:38< hk238> a 6 player game basically means you spend 1/6 of the time playing, 5/6 waiting
20160528 05:19:38< Exkywor> ok
20160528 05:19:57< hk238> well nevermind ^^
20160528 05:19:59< ancestral> * Leveling up a unit, whether the AI is doing it, or the user is choosing
20160528 05:20:07< ancestral> hk238: I’m with you
20160528 05:20:21< Exkywor> i suck in mp
20160528 05:20:25< ancestral> I did create an extremely crude (and probably broken now) script which auto-ended a turn
20160528 05:20:43< Exkywor> any more snippets?
20160528 05:20:54< Exkywor> any other*
20160528 05:21:07< ancestral> hk238: http://r.wesnoth.org/t36156
20160528 05:21:10< ancestral> Exkywor: Yes
20160528 05:22:07< ancestral> * In game capture of browsing through the add-ons on the server
20160528 05:22:21< hk238> yeah that seems nice
20160528 05:22:46< hk238> it might increase the average turn by some fraction
20160528 05:22:55< ancestral> * Recruiting/recalling units
20160528 05:22:56< hk238> I mean decrease, the length of
20160528 05:23:16< ancestral> Not sure what else
20160528 05:23:23< ancestral> Maybe some “generic” gameplay in other maps
20160528 05:23:35< Exkywor> ok
20160528 05:23:37< Exkywor> now
20160528 05:23:39< ancestral> Showing off the Khalifate is never a bad idea
20160528 05:23:41< ancestral> since it’s new
20160528 05:23:52< Exkywor> do we have an structure of the trailer?
20160528 05:23:54< Exkywor> this goes firts
20160528 05:23:59< ancestral> There is a significant population of people who would return to the game
20160528 05:23:59< Exkywor> then this shows off
20160528 05:24:03< Exkywor> kind of that
20160528 05:24:08< ancestral> They played it once and want to see what’s new
20160528 05:24:52< ancestral> Like this person: https://twitter.com/Frodosynthesiss/status/680271178439733248
20160528 05:25:55< ancestral> Exkywor: I don’t have an exact structure, other than I kind of like the idea of some scenery setting the mood, as we do currenrtly, maybe a bit quicker
20160528 05:26:25< ancestral> And then honestly, I think we just need to get the clips and figure out what we have to work with
20160528 05:26:32< ancestral> And what order works well
20160528 05:26:36< Exkywor> trust me
20160528 05:26:43< Exkywor> it will be better if we plan it before
20160528 05:26:55< ancestral> Perhaps if one level takes place in the forest and another in a forest, having them back-to-back wouldn’t be great
20160528 05:27:02< ancestral> Intersperse them with other clips of other terrain
20160528 05:27:43< ancestral> Exkywor: I feel like planning this too much may not be the best use of my time
20160528 05:27:45< Exkywor> that idea can be use to showcase scenerios
20160528 05:27:58< ancestral> Again, this just needs ot be “good enough”
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20160528 05:28:30< Exkywor> let's do something
20160528 05:29:02< pydsigner> I'm working on getting some footage of Delfador
20160528 05:29:04< Exkywor> can i create an structure and bring it here tomorrow?
20160528 05:29:37< Exkywor> if you like it good, and if not you don't lose time
20160528 05:30:21< ancestral> pydsigner: Oh awesome!
20160528 05:30:37< ancestral> Exkywor: The trailer we’re making right now is just for Greenlight
20160528 05:30:51< ancestral> This may not necessarily be the one that players will see when this is on Steam
20160528 05:32:03< ancestral> pydsigner, Exkywor: If you can capture content in the game of at least 720p that would be great
20160528 05:32:05< Exkywor> well, what about if you finish the one for greenlight and based on that i work on the one for when the game appears?
20160528 05:32:33< ancestral> We’re going to zoom in a little bit on the action, so even if the trailer is 1080p it’s fine
20160528 05:32:52< pydsigner> ancestral: I have 1080p screens
20160528 05:32:54< ancestral> if the content is 720p. (If the content is too high it will be too small to see.)
20160528 05:32:57< pydsigner> So no issue there
20160528 05:32:58< ancestral> pydsigner: Okay
20160528 05:33:15< ancestral> This can always be cropped and scaled
20160528 05:33:17< Exkywor> appears on steam*
20160528 05:33:26< ancestral> Exkywor: Sure!
20160528 05:33:47< Exkywor> ok
20160528 05:33:47< ancestral> That would be absolutely fine
20160528 05:34:02< ancestral> Exkywor: Have you played Wesnoth much?
20160528 05:34:09< Exkywor> i used too
20160528 05:34:16< Exkywor> mostly the main campaigns
20160528 05:34:22< ancestral> Are you on the forums?
20160528 05:34:28< Exkywor> yup
20160528 05:34:36< ancestral> Of course you are, you PMed me
20160528 05:34:43< Exkywor> yeah :)
20160528 05:35:01< Exkywor> a couple of years ago wesnoth was my to go game
20160528 05:35:16< ancestral> Well, Wesnoth is not going on Steam tomorrow. Even in a month. Who knows, maybe not even this year.
20160528 05:35:21< Exkywor> now i have a computer capable of playing new games so i'm busy
20160528 05:35:32< Exkywor> but i still keep and eye on the game and play it from time to time
20160528 05:36:06< ancestral> Exkywor: But if you find other things you might be interested in doing, go ahead
20160528 05:36:29< Exkywor> ok, i g2g soon so 2 things before i leave
20160528 05:36:31< Exkywor> fist
20160528 05:37:05< Exkywor>  i will be working on an idea for the trailer and i'm gonna let you know when i complete the idea
20160528 05:37:24< Exkywor> it shouldn't take me more than a couple of days depending of how busy i am
20160528 05:37:27< Exkywor> second
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20160528 05:37:37< Exkywor> aside from that, how else can i help in the game?
20160528 05:37:54< Exkywor> i can give a hand translating things to spanish
20160528 05:38:03< Exkywor> but, how else can i help?
20160528 05:38:27< Exkywor> now that i found a way to contact you be certain that you are not gonna get rid of me easily, hahahaha :)
20160528 05:38:38< ancestral> I may incorrect here, but I think the Spanish translation is fairly robust
20160528 05:39:25< Exkywor> i don't know about the newest versions, but like two years ago there were some campaing that weren't fully translated
20160528 05:39:30< Exkywor> but that was like 2 years ago
20160528 05:39:38< ancestral> Well, there’s programming, there’s user made content, there’s writing, documentation, helping people on the forums, finding and reporting bugs
20160528 05:40:27< ancestral> Art, music
20160528 05:40:42< ancestral> Providing gameplay feedback
20160528 05:40:49< Exkywor> marketing?
20160528 05:41:11< ancestral> As the game gets closer to Steam, probably
20160528 05:41:18< Exkywor> ok
20160528 05:41:37< Exkywor> what kind of help do you need in writing and documentatin?
20160528 05:41:41< Exkywor> documentation*
20160528 05:41:51< ancestral> Well, there’s the wiki for one
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20160528 05:42:19< ancestral> Make it pretty, clean it up, put in images where appropriate
20160528 05:42:52< ancestral> We could maybe use a revision to the manual?
20160528 05:43:24< ancestral> There was a push to rewrite descriptions
20160528 05:44:07< ancestral> I don’t know if there is a good campaign with the Khalifate, but I could totally see a Khalifate campaign in mainline at some point in the far future
20160528 05:44:37< ancestral> (maybe not so far)
20160528 05:45:10< ancestral> Exkywor: Feel free to poke around here: http://r.wesnoth.org/f32
20160528 05:45:36< ancestral> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothManual
20160528 05:45:36< Exkywor> ok
20160528 05:45:41< Exkywor> gonna be checking that
20160528 05:46:02< Exkywor> what about if you make a contest
20160528 05:46:10< Exkywor> give a wesnoth period of time
20160528 05:46:17< Exkywor> wesnoth lore*
20160528 05:46:32< Exkywor> and make players come with a coherent story for a campaign
20160528 05:46:40< Exkywor> that doesn't create plot holes
20160528 05:46:59< Exkywor> and the winner's story can be worked into a main campaing
20160528 05:47:04< Exkywor> just saying
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20160528 05:49:38< ancestral> Exkywor: It would be great except
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20160528 05:50:12< ancestral> Exkywor: It would be great, except Admittedly, you probably won’t be getting a lot of people participating
20160528 05:50:25< Exkywor> yeah... probably
20160528 05:50:26< Exkywor> well
20160528 05:50:29< Exkywor> i g2g
20160528 05:50:35< ancestral> Perhaps we do need more marketing generally speaking
20160528 05:50:49< Exkywor> completely
20160528 05:50:50< ancestral> But Steam will probably bring in quite a few
20160528 05:50:57< Exkywor> true
20160528 05:51:04< Exkywor> i'll be working on the trailer
20160528 05:51:05< ancestral> Few thousand players, and several dozen contributors
20160528 05:51:10< Exkywor> and checking on the manual
20160528 05:51:14< Exkywor> i hope so :D
20160528 05:51:20< Exkywor> nite guys :)
20160528 05:51:25< ancestral> Exkywor: There’s other things you can try doing too
20160528 05:51:28< ancestral> Reviewing mods
20160528 05:51:36< ancestral> Putting Wesnoth gameplay videos on YouTube
20160528 05:51:41< ancestral> Up to you
20160528 05:52:06< ancestral> Good night!
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20160528 05:53:17< Exkywor> nite*
20160528 05:57:05< ancestral> Heh: https://redd.it/4lca1x
20160528 06:01:07< Exkywor> (y)
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20160528 06:30:58< pydsigner> ancestral: It actually didn't seem to outright horrible to me
20160528 06:31:24< pydsigner> Just over-the-top in an intentionally campy sort of way
20160528 06:31:45< ancestral> Speaking to your audience is important
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