--- Log opened Fri Jun 17 00:00:04 2016
--- Day changed Fri Jun 17 2016
20160617 00:00:04< shadowm> Can't build master with cmake: http://pastebin.com/BDAmFjmW
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20160617 00:11:03< shadowm> Hang on, I just remembered that I'm not actually on master.
20160617 00:11:59< shadowm> Nah, same thing on the actual up-to-date master.
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20160617 00:38:38< shadowm> loonycyborg: The SCons recipe lies.
20160617 00:38:51< shadowm> "extra_flags_debug: Extra compiler and linker flags to use for debug builds"
20160617 00:39:15< shadowm> I'm using extra_flags_debug, and guess what, my options are only passed to the compiler, not the linker.
20160617 00:48:02< shadowm> At least using CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS in the environment works.
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20160617 01:12:44< shadowm> Aginor, gfgtdf, vultraz: master built with ThreadSanitizer on Debian unstable using GCC 5.4.0, execution log up to the title screen: http://pastebin.com/wSQG2qg3
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20160617 01:14:25< shadowm> There are a few reports at the start that look like an issue in PulseAudio so they're probably best ignored, but then on line 74 stuff involving t_string starts popping up.
20160617 01:15:09< shadowm> That seems awfully relevant for the non-deterministic crash that Aginor (and I) have with SIGINT handling during the loading screen.
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20160617 01:18:05< shadowm> I also got over 100,000 lines (*not* hyperbole) worth of warnings about "signal-unsafe call inside of a signal" upon SIGINTing the title screen.
20160617 01:19:29< shadowm> Just a small excerpt: http://pastebin.com/dnDiM4Mc
20160617 01:19:46< shadowm> Also note that when I say "loading screen" I mean the loading screen, and when I say "title screen" I mean the title screen.
20160617 01:22:54< shadowm> http://pastebin.com/MmZgsjYP -- As I said, not hyperbole.
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20160617 01:27:40< shadowm> If you want the full log: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/poop/tsan-log.log.xz
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20160617 02:04:01< Sapient> I'm not sure what "signal-unsafe call inside of a signal" means. It sounds like you were in a signal handler, but I don't see one in the stack list.
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20160617 02:26:48< Aginor> shadowm: thanks for running that
20160617 02:27:52< vultraz> me right now: I understand nothing o_o
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20160617 02:35:13< celticminstrel> BTW loonycyborg, did you have anything to say about spirit-po when you tried it?
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20160617 06:55:11< Jozrael> Hrm, the son of the black eye on nightmare is supposed to be super difficult nowadays right? Based on https://wiki.wesnoth.org/AI_Recruitment it sounds like recruitment_save_gold is off by default to improve the AI, yet it looks to me like End of Peace has it on - just doublechecking if this is intentional.
20160617 06:55:17< Jozrael> Further scenarios don't have that enabled so I'd assume yes
20160617 06:55:23< Jozrael> But it makes the first scenario considerably easier.
20160617 06:55:56< Jozrael> I.e. the AI is only spending like 1/3 of its gold at once so there's far less units to deal with at once.
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20160617 07:21:26< Aginor> shadowm: that log file is rather depressing reading
20160617 07:21:46< shadowm> I'd like to think that most of it is spurious.
20160617 07:22:33< shadowm> Can't say for sure since there are some potentially relevant frames without symbol information even though I installed debug symbol packages.
20160617 07:23:07< shadowm> (For SDL 2.0 and its companion libraries, as well as ThreadSanitizer itself.)
20160617 07:23:42< Aginor> "signal-unsafe call inside of a signal" I wonder if this might be because the other threads might still be running at that stage
20160617 07:25:03< Aginor> not that I know if they do
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20160617 07:26:49< Aginor> shadowm: thanks for running it, it looks like it might be useful for fixing some multithreding issues
20160617 07:27:11< shadowm> I hope so. I honestly have no idea what to do with any of the information I gathered. :p
20160617 07:28:58< shadowm> It's not too hard to build your own if you are running a recent version of GCC and have the ThreadSanitizer (tsan) library installed. Right now with scons you need to use `CXXFLAGS='-fsanitize=thread' LDFLAGS='-fsanitize=thread'` in the compiler environment instead of the extra_flags_* options, because those don't propagate the flags to the linker stage.
20160617 07:29:06< Aginor> it looks like a starting point for a serious debugging session
20160617 07:29:41< shadowm> *in the scons process' environment
20160617 07:30:01< Aginor> not that I'm planning to fix any of that, I have enough things to fix without worrying about breakage introduced by other people
20160617 07:30:12< shadowm> (If the linker stage doesn't get the correct flags you'll get flooded with undefined references to tsan symbols for everything in existence.)
20160617 07:30:23< Aginor> that sounds like unfun
20160617 07:30:45< shadowm> Yeah, that's understandable.
20160617 07:30:48< Aginor> your log-file compressed rather well by the way :)
20160617 07:31:17< shadowm> I'd look at it but: 1) no experience with threads; 2) no experience with some of the offending code (t_string in particular); 3) busy with other stuff.
20160617 07:32:28< Aginor> I've spent half the day debugging concurrency issues in distributed systems, I'm simply not keen to look at more of the same :)
20160617 07:33:16< Aginor> anyhow, I need to shoot off for some non-computer activities, you guys have a good Friday
20160617 07:34:24< Sapient> later Aginor
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20160617 07:40:04< Jozrael> Out of curiosity, where might doc on wesnoth's build pipeline be?
20160617 07:40:58< Jozrael> I see https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Compilingwesnoth for DIY, was wondering if e.g. jenkins or anything was used
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20160617 07:46:25< shadowm> We use travis primarily, although there's a jenkins stuff that like 2 people use.
20160617 07:46:34< shadowm> ... jenkins setup.
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20160617 07:55:43< Jozrael> Neato :]
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20160617 07:57:19< Jozrael> Yea travis sounds way better for wesnoth nvm, and neato!
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20160617 08:11:43< loonycyborg> shadowm: that's because those flags are fed to ParseFlags, a function designed to parse output of foo-config programs. It expects input to contain both compiler and linker commands
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20160617 08:12:04< loonycyborg> and is expected to automatically determine which are which
20160617 08:12:30< loonycyborg> but it can't know them all and by default thinks a flag is compiler one
20160617 08:12:50< loonycyborg> I want to add a switch to enable sanitizer though
20160617 08:14:22< shadowm> What I take from that is that the SCons recipe is forever doomed to chase after GCC's command line interface.
20160617 08:14:27< shadowm> And that's dumb.
20160617 08:15:06< loonycyborg> I don't think so. It's by nature an aid to our usecases.
20160617 08:15:20< shadowm> And that's _before_ factoring in the existence of compilers from other vendors with varying degrees of compatibility with GCC.
20160617 08:15:41< shadowm> How is it an aid?
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20160617 08:16:42< loonycyborg> even if extra_flagx_xxx recognized them,I'd still want to add an option
20160617 08:16:55< loonycyborg> to have less typing
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20160617 08:17:09< shadowm> I'm not talking about -fsanitize in particular anymore.
20160617 08:17:16< loonycyborg> and track it more easily via .scons-option-cache
20160617 08:17:30< shadowm> I'm talking about any options that GCC and other compilers or linkers may come up with years in the future.
20160617 08:18:25< shadowm> If you want to add wrappers for -fsanitize, that's great, but it doesn't solve the greater issue.
20160617 08:18:29< loonycyborg> they'll add many many more, but it's unlikely that there will be many of them that would be worth adding another variable over
20160617 08:18:50< shadowm> (Or the fact that the scons recipe help does nothing to inform the user of this massive caveat.)
20160617 08:19:48< shadowm> At least specifying CXXFLAGS and LDFLAGS in the environment has the expected effect, but the help text needs to stop lying.
20160617 08:20:13< loonycyborg> I can clarify help text
20160617 08:21:00< shadowm> Please do.
20160617 08:21:36< loonycyborg> I know about this issue, but I have trouble figuring out how to fix it without causing combinatorial explosion
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20160617 11:07:00< irker232> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:master fccf4f067f1b / SConstruct: scons: add an option to enable clang/GCC sanitizer functionality https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/fccf4f067f1b0d470ab37f6554c8fd6c6f43f0da
20160617 11:07:02< irker232> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:master 44fa6651c8c0 / SConstruct: scons: help text clarification for extra_flags_* variables https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/44fa6651c8c0d6a3f826e687177c81fc8337b7df
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20160617 11:08:25< loonycyborg> shadowm: It lets you do something like scons sanitize=address,leak,undefined
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20160617 11:09:53< loonycyborg> the value passed to sanitize= will be forwarded right to -fsanitize
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20160617 11:10:58< loonycyborg> Aginor: but the thing is the only project where you're not fixing other people's screwups is the project you're sole contributor to :P
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20160617 12:36:33< Aginor> loonycyborg: that's true, but I don't think it's unreasonable for the people who created the bugs to fix them. That's certainly the attitude I am met with whenever there's anything graphics related
20160617 12:39:44< loonycyborg> but fixing other people's bugs is often faster and can create feeling of comaderie :P
20160617 12:39:54< loonycyborg> comraderie
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20160617 15:26:55< mattsc> I am back to trying to fix the [disable] weapon special bug https://gna.org/bugs/?22179 and a similar bug found by shadowm (or a second manifestation of the same bug, depending on how one looks at it).
20160617 15:27:22< mattsc> Well, I know how to fix it in principle.  I am back to trying to fix it without a significant perfomance hit.
20160617 15:28:04< mattsc> Last time I brought this up, there was widespread opposition to adding a flag to the attack_type structure.
20160617 15:29:06< mattsc> So, in that case I can see no other option but to check whether the [disable] special is present for every unit that only has one attack for each attack calculation.
20160617 15:30:13< mattsc> I’ve done a bunch of testing and I think doing this will not significantly add to the evaluation time, esp. if we do a simple check first.
20160617 15:31:48< zookeeper> mattsc, on an unrelated note, jozrael was wondering about something WRT the AI in SotBE:01, i figured you'd know
20160617 15:31:52< mattsc> I’m talking about doing a simple check here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/1.12/src/unit_abilities.cpp#L511
20160617 15:32:27< mattsc> So, unless somebody has objections, I’ll go ahead with that.
20160617 15:32:54< mattsc> My only question right now is whether I do this for master only, or in 1.12 also.
20160617 15:33:16< mattsc> zookeeper: was this on IRC?  And when?
20160617 15:33:33< zookeeper> https://www.wesnoth.org/irclogs/2016/06/%23wesnoth-dev.2016-06-17.log
20160617 15:34:11< mattsc> Oh, today …
20160617 15:35:23< zookeeper> as for porting the disable fix to 1.12... eh... no opinion.
20160617 15:38:02< mattsc> zookeeper: on SotBE S1, I don’t remember.  I agree that it looks like we did it on purpose.  I have a vague recollection that I was undecided about it.  That sometimes it seemed harder with it on, and sometimes with it off.
20160617 15:40:14< mattsc> zookeeper: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/aaf0922da1719dce8d3c19ac5689c7c1aca59238
20160617 15:40:43< mattsc> I guess sometimes it pays off to give reasons for a commit ...
20160617 15:41:01< zookeeper> it sure does
20160617 15:41:02< mattsc> That doesn’t mean that statement is correct, but that that was my perception at the time.
20160617 15:43:35< mattsc> zookeeper: back to the disable fix porting to 1.12, yeah, I don’t really have an opinion one way or the other.  I’m a bit nervous putting it into the stable branch in case there’s something I’ve overlooked (border cases that were there might be a significant cost).
20160617 15:44:13< mattsc> s/that were there/where there   (ugh)
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20160617 15:54:47< zookeeper> mattsc, and i'd imagine anyone affected by it in 1.12 would likely already have worked around it anyway
20160617 15:55:27< mattsc> zookeeper: yeah
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20160617 16:17:56< mattsc> Btw, the same (I know how to fix it but don’t want to do it for 1.12 because it affects all attack calculations) also goes for the units with 0 max_moves won’t attack bug https://gna.org/bugs/?23720
20160617 16:18:37< mattsc> The effect of this one changes the attack evaluation outcome more so than the calculation time though.
20160617 16:19:26< mattsc> But I think it changes it in a way how it should be done (so it’s a fix, I think), and it’s not like there are many units with 0 MP out there anyway/
20160617 16:19:39< mattsc> vultraz: ^
20160617 16:19:58< celticminstrel> Is 0 MP valid?
20160617 16:20:20< mattsc> ?
20160617 16:20:32< celticminstrel> I tried giving a unit 0 MP, and I could still move it.
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20160617 16:20:40< celticminstrel> (That's in 1.12 though.)
20160617 16:21:08< mattsc> Umm, I’ve done it and it worked as I expected.  So as far as I can tell, it works.
20160617 16:21:33< celticminstrel> Hmm.
20160617 16:21:55< celticminstrel> I set it to 0 with an object, if I recall correctly.
20160617 16:22:34< mattsc> Okay; I do not remember if I have done that.
20160617 16:23:00< celticminstrel> You set it to 0 in the [unit_type], I guess?
20160617 16:23:20< mattsc> Yes.  Or just with debug commands.
20160617 16:23:36< mattsc> In a nutshell, the reason for that bug is that units with 0 MP are excluded from the movemaps (even on the hex they’re on) and the ‘support’ variable in the attack calculation is based on movemaps.
20160617 16:23:45< celticminstrel> Hmm, okay. That seems to imply that setting it in [unit] might also work.
20160617 16:24:02< celticminstrel> That makes sense.
20160617 16:24:33< mattsc> Thus, if you have an isolated unit with 0 max_moves, it gets a power projection of 0, and that’s usually a reason not to attack.
20160617 16:25:06< mattsc> While, on the other hand, a unit that has MP is counted into the support calculation, so there’s an inconsistency there.
20160617 16:25:22< mattsc> (as in, it counts into the support for its own attack.
20160617 16:26:20< mattsc> the fix is to add units with 0 max_moves into the support calculation on the hex they are on (well, and those adjacent).
20160617 16:27:03< mattsc> The better fix, IMO, would be to add them into the movemaps, but that would break all kinds of other things.
20160617 16:27:27< celticminstrel> It seems inconsistent to put a unit that can't move into a move map.
20160617 16:27:52< mattsc> Depends.
20160617 16:27:59< celticminstrel> I think that would also apply to units with 1 MP that are surrounded by terrains that require more than 1 MP to cross...
20160617 16:28:18< mattsc> Actually, I think it does not, that’s the thing.
20160617 16:28:32< mattsc> And that is, in fact, the workaround to make this work in scenarios.
20160617 16:29:00< celticminstrel> Well, I suppose it could depend on what you mean by "move" in "move map"...
20160617 16:29:07< mattsc> Right.
20160617 16:29:29< celticminstrel> But if it means moving between hexes, it seems weird for units that can't move at all to be included.
20160617 16:29:44< celticminstrel> Though I suppose they could always be mapped to an empty set or something.
20160617 16:30:25< mattsc> Right.  But in many cases, move maps are used to map out all the hexes that can be reached (and influenced) by the units of a side.
20160617 16:30:47< mattsc> And the hex a unit is on should count into it in that case, whether the unit can move off of it or not.
20160617 16:31:01< mattsc> I know that in some of my custom AIs, a bunch of things would be easier if those hexes/units were included.
20160617 16:31:22< mattsc> But you need a “special clause” one way or another ...
20160617 16:31:37< mattsc> Either in the move or in the attack evaluation.
20160617 16:32:13< mattsc> And in any case, this is how it is done in Wesnoth, and changing it would be a major refactoring of many parts of the code.
20160617 16:32:33< mattsc> It’s not worth it, as far as I am concerned.
20160617 16:45:52< loonycyborg> celticminstrel: spirit-po works for me, language switching works too
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20160617 17:01:30< celticminstrel> Language-switching was laggy for me, so I should try to fix that somehow.
20160617 17:02:00< loonycyborg> yup it takes quite a bit of time
20160617 17:02:00< celticminstrel> loonycyborg: Do you have any opinion on whether I should gzip the po-files to save space?
20160617 17:02:42< loonycyborg> atm I don't think it should
20160617 17:03:27< loonycyborg> if it'll be unpacking gzip files language switch will be even slower :P
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20160617 17:04:10< celticminstrel> True. My idea for fixing the lag there is to just reload the two important textdomains and do the rest either in a thread or on demand.
20160617 17:04:35< loonycyborg> hmm maybe
20160617 17:04:53< loonycyborg> in fact most textdomains are confined to particular campaign
20160617 17:05:03< loonycyborg> yet wesnoth-lib domain is HUGE
20160617 17:05:43< loonycyborg> though I think on demand loading is a good idea
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20160617 17:38:05< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 3cd73e407b73 / src/text.cpp: fix msvc warning https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3cd73e407b73dc6864cabca479ce058e5e9b96f8
20160617 17:38:05< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 672ef61a34d5 / src/editor/ (9 files in 3 dirs): small editor palette refactor https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/672ef61a34d5ab2e3be473430668b3bd5d3e5f08
20160617 17:38:06< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 6424d79f4891 / src/ (9 files in 4 dirs): use palettes in for the starting positions tool instead of a popup dialog https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6424d79f489129791fedb23e267565922dba3751
20160617 17:38:07< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 1e088d9a5039 / src/ (9 files in 4 dirs): add remove button to location palette https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1e088d9a5039de7c7aebae8ed0c828d94bc056f7
20160617 17:38:09< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master a0ce7dc19481 / src/terrain/translation.cpp: less string copying in string_to_number_ (parsing terrains) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a0ce7dc194811cea22a10419a12dea16bc1e524a
20160617 17:38:11< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 42d93236e047 / src/ (15 files in 10 dirs): allow to special apceisl locations in the map_data https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/42d93236e0470944d5bb53993097910b89f9f19e
20160617 17:38:13< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 092bb15240f3 / src/ (map/map.cpp terrain/translation.cpp terrain/translation.hpp): fix starting positions beeing off by one. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/092bb15240f31efc1ddd27b9992df2025b5c779c
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20160617 18:05:37< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 694cab871e88 / changelog: Update changelog https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/694cab871e8836f28517627e27d4768271877b44
20160617 18:08:50< celticminstrel> Oh good, I was going to bring that up.
20160617 18:09:08< celticminstrel> Though it'd be even better if you bothered to run a spell-checker on it.
20160617 18:09:49< celticminstrel> "which can then be read by wml" is missing the "be", and I'm not sure what you mean bu "overwie".
20160617 18:10:04< celticminstrel> "possible" has two S's.
20160617 18:10:05< gfgtdf> overview*
20160617 18:10:32< celticminstrel> "loading screen" and "variable names" should be two words.
20160617 18:10:53< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master e0691903682b / src/editor/palette/ (location_palette.cpp location_palette.hpp): attempt to fix travis compilation. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e0691903682b6f1b0199318f9605817fbc63102a
20160617 18:14:23< irker178> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master e8874b28942e / changelog: improve changelog spelling. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/e8874b28942ea852b9082705c82aca7138a4ece1
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20160617 23:43:25< gfgtdf> it's quite annyoing that we cannot filter bugs by release version
20160617 23:49:40< gfgtdf> in our bugtracker i meantz
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20160617 23:50:09< irker562> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 7f265e5e5351 / src/editor/palette/ (8 files): select special location in editor palette after creating it https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7f265e5e5351e781c43c56f25be2d15ceab517c8
20160617 23:50:35< Aginor> gfgtdf: do you know if there's a nice way to export all bugs from it?
20160617 23:50:52< Aginor> gfgtdf: we could request a jira instance and import them into that :)
20160617 23:51:44< gfgtdf> Aginor: there is a "export" button, but i never used it
20160617 23:52:10< gfgtdf> Aginor: we want to move toa beter bugtracker but currently noone is motivated to do that work
20160617 23:52:14< gfgtdf> better*
20160617 23:52:40< Aginor> I don't see an export button. Where are you looking?
20160617 23:53:05< gfgtdf> Aginor: "Fehler" -> "Exportieren" in the german trnaslation
20160617 23:53:37< gfgtdf> Aginor: we considered github issue tracker but the problem was that it didnt allow to puload arbitary files, speciall savefiles, also it rquired login of users
20160617 23:54:01< Aginor> yeah
20160617 23:54:12< gfgtdf> Aginor: other option discussed was redmine don't rmember the outcome
20160617 23:54:14< Aginor> I don't like the github one it isn't very good
20160617 23:54:25< Aginor> redmine is nice, but fiddly
20160617 23:54:27< Aginor> https://www.atlassian.com/software/views/open-source-license-request
20160617 23:54:39< Aginor> that looks rather straighforward though
20160617 23:55:09< Aginor> gfgtdf: thanks, found the option
20160617 23:56:50< gfgtdf> Aginor: you see blockers for the next 1.13 relase, (speciall regression from 1.12 or things that you are about to fix) ?
20160617 23:57:18< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: what bug tracker would be better?
20160617 23:58:40< gfgtdf> loonycyborg: iceiceice suggested redmine
20160617 23:58:46< Aginor> gfgtdf: I assume you're specifically trying to refer to https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?24762 ?
20160617 23:59:19< Aginor> redmine is good too, but it needs to be hosted by us
20160617 23:59:42< gfgtdf> Aginor: no i was asking whether you know other issues related to your changes taht dou'D consider blockers
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20160617 23:59:52< Aginor> ah, right
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