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20160628 00:50:38< celticminstrel> Okay, I think this should fix the deadlock.
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20160628 01:35:42< celticminstrel> Ugh, looks like it doesn't.
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20160628 03:27:04< Aginor> celticminstrel: deadlock?
20160628 03:30:29< celticminstrel> I'm trying to reload language catalogs in a separate thread.
20160628 03:30:54< celticminstrel> But clearly my logic is wrong somewhere, because nothing happens. The window never even opens.
20160628 03:33:36< Aginor> a debugger should tell you what holds which locks
20160628 03:34:46< celticminstrel> I might actually need a second mutex.
20160628 03:35:01< celticminstrel> Both threads seem to be sleeping at the same point in the code, which is surely bad.
20160628 03:35:38< Aginor> so thread 1 spawns a worker and waits for the result?
20160628 03:35:45< celticminstrel> Yes.
20160628 03:36:13< Aginor> you should use a conditional then, so that main thread sleeps on a signal from worker thread
20160628 03:36:45< celticminstrel> Yeah, maybe - I was just thinking that what I want is similar to a Java synchronized method, which as I recall would be a condition_variable in C++ terminology.
20160628 03:37:05< celticminstrel> The worker runs through the textdomains in some undefined order, and a textdomain may be required before the worker loads it, so in that case I want to load it on the main thread, causing the worker to skip it.
20160628 03:37:08< Aginor> but if you really do it that way, there's not much point in multithreading
20160628 03:37:17< celticminstrel> Maybe.
20160628 03:37:38< Aginor> you still run the same amount of computation in sequence
20160628 03:38:04< Aginor> so unless you split up the computation into descrete chunks and farm out, there's no gain
20160628 03:38:16< Aginor> or have the main thread do something else before waiting for results
20160628 03:38:24< celticminstrel> The problem is that loading a catalog seems to cause noticeable lag, so loading them on demand doesn't seem viable.
20160628 03:38:59< celticminstrel> Are you suggesting to create a worker thread for each textdomain or something?
20160628 03:39:16< celticminstrel> (There's a lot of textdomains though.)
20160628 03:41:13< Aginor> if we want to take a generic approach, let's have a worker-pool, and the main threads can submit work items
20160628 03:41:40< Aginor> so one text-domain could be a work items, and the threadpool would go through them until all work is exhausted
20160628 03:42:02< Aginor> but that entials major architectural changes for us to do properly
20160628 03:42:31< celticminstrel> But would that solve the noticeable lag of loading textdomains on-demand?
20160628 03:42:58< celticminstrel> ie, when a string is requested from that textdomain
20160628 03:43:25< Aginor> no, that should ideally be pre-computed and cached
20160628 03:44:17< celticminstrel> I implemented the on-demand loading because there was a huge lag when switching languages, and it does help a little, but there's still too much lag for this to be viable, I think.
20160628 03:45:38 * Aginor nods
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20160628 03:48:40< Aginor> celticminstrel: in what way is it laggy?
20160628 03:48:46< Aginor> celticminstrel: UI is unresponsive?
20160628 03:48:56< celticminstrel> Yeah, pretty much.
20160628 03:49:38< Aginor> celticminstrel: ok, proper solution: worker thread to load language in the background, use main thread to drive a progress indicator and keep UI responsive
20160628 03:50:47< celticminstrel> vultraz: Wasn't there a GUI2 loading dialog somewhere that you removed?
20160628 03:51:05< vultraz> eh?
20160628 03:51:15< celticminstrel> Although, I suppose I could use the existing loadscreen, but that seems slightly weird for just switching languages.
20160628 03:51:26< vultraz> what loading dialog
20160628 03:51:36< celticminstrel> Something like the one when downloading add-ons.
20160628 03:51:43< vultraz> no
20160628 03:51:46< Aginor> celticminstrel: don't make progress go form 0-100%, just show an "looping" progress bar to indicate that the program is doing work
20160628 03:51:51< vultraz> you are mistaken
20160628 03:52:03< celticminstrel> Though I don't think it was that, that was GUI1, but I seem to recall that there was a GUI2 version somewhere that you removed.
20160628 03:52:05< Aginor> celticminstrel: I don't think there is such an component though
20160628 03:52:05< vultraz> also, please, no progress bars
20160628 03:52:15< celticminstrel> That's a ludicrous request.
20160628 03:52:26< Aginor> celticminstrel: mine or vultraz's?
20160628 03:52:31< celticminstrel> The latter.
20160628 03:53:09< vultraz> Use of progress bars to say the language is reloading is absurd :/
20160628 03:53:37< celticminstrel> I could test something where the main domains are reloaded on the main thread and the rest dispatched to a worker.
20160628 03:53:54< celticminstrel> I think that would still have quite a bit of lag, though.
20160628 04:01:12< Aginor> vultraz: the point of an indicator bar is to show that the program hasn't locked up, and that control will shortly be returned to the user. It is not absurd.
20160628 04:01:40< vultraz> Then just put a 'please wait' dialog or something
20160628 04:04:16< Aginor> vultraz: I am NOT talking about a progress bar, I'm talking about an animated spinner of some form, in circular or bar form
20160628 04:04:24< vultraz> ...oh!
20160628 04:04:31< vultraz> yes, please, do make it an animated spinner
20160628 04:04:36< vultraz> I am ok with that
20160628 04:04:56< Aginor> it's a task with an unclear finishing point, so a progress bar is not suitable
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20160628 07:33:59< irker543> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master 0bc068113a9c / changelog players_changelog src/halo.cpp src/units/drawer.cpp: Fix bug #23712: Mage of Light halo not drawing correctly https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/0bc068113a9cb8a18f797e4aec29d280653b57d3
20160628 07:33:59< irker543> wesnoth: Andreas wesnoth:master 9c179bdc6517 / changelog players_changelog src/halo.cpp src/units/drawer.cpp: Merge pull request #673 from jyrkive/bug-23712 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9c179bdc651788573feb06bcbe21733ec97c4809
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20160628 07:52:40< vultraz> :D
20160628 07:52:45< vultraz> that bug has been around way too long
20160628 07:58:06< Aginor> he did good work
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20160628 08:00:46< vultraz> Indeed
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20160628 08:31:00< JyrkiVesterinen> Aginor: thanks for the kind words. :) (I read the IRC logs.)
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20160628 11:39:55< Aginor> JyrkiVesterinen: I wasn't sure if you were reading the logs or not ;)
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