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20160629 20:41:04< loonycyborg> hi :P 20160629 20:45:28< PoignardAzur> So, like I said on the forums, I'm feeling a bit lost and overwhelmed 20160629 20:45:39< PoignardAzur> I'd like to participate on wesnoth 20160629 20:45:55< PoignardAzur> Probably by coding things in C++ 20160629 20:46:16< PoignardAzur> But I'm not sure where to start, and I'm not familiar with... well, anything at all here ^ 20160629 20:46:19< PoignardAzur> ^^ 20160629 20:47:07< PoignardAzur> So, first (obvious) question: 20160629 20:47:28< PoignardAzur> Is the EasyCoding page up to date? 20160629 20:48:01< celticminstrel> I think it probably is, but I haven't looked recently. 20160629 20:48:34< celticminstrel> A couple of people did implement things from there in the past few weeks, I think. 20160629 20:48:59< PoignardAzur> k 20160629 20:49:20< PoignardAzur> But actually, my general question is, where should I start? 20160629 20:49:53< PoignardAzur> I'm going to have a lot of free time this summer, and I'm pretty good at coding 20160629 20:50:16< PoignardAzur> And I know I could, like, pick a feature I'd like to see added and make a pull request 20160629 20:50:46< celticminstrel> You could definitely do that. 20160629 20:50:55< PoignardAzur> But first I'd like to start on, I don't know, something both small-ish 20160629 20:51:03< PoignardAzur> and involved with the community 20160629 20:51:10< zookeeper> have you managed to compile wesnoth already? 20160629 20:51:24< PoignardAzur> ... 20160629 20:51:35< PoignardAzur> Uh, that did not occur to me 20160629 20:51:48< PoignardAzur> I'll be riht back 20160629 20:51:59< zookeeper> well, that's probably a good place to start 20160629 20:52:00< zookeeper> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/CompilingWesnoth 20160629 20:57:11< celticminstrel> Some easy-looking things from my list include clearing the Lua console backlog when it gets too large, adding a facility for an MP scenario to prevent the player from switching the AI algorithm, or, improving server.ign files for addons so that they don't need to repeat all the default exclusions. 20160629 20:57:20< celticminstrel> Maybe I should add some of those to EasyCoding, actually. 20160629 20:57:27< zookeeper> and the EasyCoding page is most likely more or less up-to-date, but if a particular idea catches your interest then it's a good idea to ask for further opinions here anyway 20160629 20:57:53< celticminstrel> Another easy thing you could do is adding a function to the formula language, though I don't have any particular ideas left of functions that it needs. 20160629 20:58:13< Aginor> PoignardAzur: welcome! :) 20160629 20:58:47< PoignardAzur> aginor: thanks :) 20160629 20:59:03< Aginor> PoignardAzur: or if you have any areas of interest that you feel you'd like to work within, we can probably help you to find something interesting to do there too 20160629 20:59:26< PoignardAzur> I think I'll stay away from Lua for now, since I have no experience with it 20160629 20:59:45< PoignardAzur> (maybe when I'm more comfortable with BfW 's codebase) 20160629 21:00:50< PoignardAzur> I think I'm going to have a more in-depth look at wesnoth's codebase tomorrow, and work from there 20160629 21:01:03< PoignardAzur> It's kind of huge though 20160629 21:04:25-!- yaiyan is now known as Yaiyan 20160629 21:13:29-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160629 21:14:20< PoignardAzur> And I'm building 20160629 21:14:32< PoignardAzur> Doesn't seem to be any warning, by the way 20160629 21:15:51< PoignardAzur> Never mind 20160629 21:15:51-!- RatArmy [~RatArmy@om126161116070.8.openmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160629 21:16:10-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160629 21:22:07-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160629 21:30:56-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160629 21:31:23-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160629 21:32:32 * celticminstrel isn't sure why he brought up Lua. 20160629 21:37:14-!- PoignardAzur [~echidna@195-132-100-115.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20160629 21:40:35-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160629 21:41:05-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160629 21:42:01-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160629 21:42:31-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160629 21:52:18-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160629 21:52:44-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160629 21:53:38-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@x4db60ff3.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160629 21:54:09-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160629 21:54:45-!- Greg-Boggs [~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20160629 21:54:45< Aginor> did we scare him off? 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