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20160606 17:21:20< buddh> I try to inform you as humble and solid as possible 20160606 17:21:30< buddh> but I would kindly ask you to ban demink for a while or more 20160606 17:21:53< buddh> he has been eye-catching for a while but last game 20160606 17:21:55< Soliton> oh you want a moderator, i see. 20160606 17:22:11< buddh> some nuub had the insolence of being lucky against him 20160606 17:22:19< buddh> he started to insult that new player who was kind 20160606 17:22:21< Soliton> best is to report whoever via adminmsg then. 20160606 17:22:26< buddh> and I interefered, now I am a subhuman 20160606 17:22:28< buddh> and whatever 20160606 17:22:38< buddh> hes a racist and a bastard and he shouldnt be tolerated 20160606 17:22:41< buddh> I did 20160606 17:22:47< Soliton> excellent. 20160606 17:22:52< buddh> but I cant stand this "doing nothing" attitude 20160606 17:23:14< buddh> ok so you know now 20160606 17:23:23< buddh> maybe you will have an eye on the issue thank you 20160606 17:23:50< Ravana_> you were gmf221? 20160606 17:23:52< Soliton> i'm not actively moderating but those that do will look into it. 20160606 17:24:54< Soliton> note though that we don't have a lot of people volunteering their time to help moderate the server and their time is limited. 20160606 17:25:21< Soliton> so demanding that something needs to happen is not a good start. 20160606 17:25:23< buddh> maybe I should volunteer 20160606 17:25:30< buddh> I am buddh, f22 and gmf221 same time 20160606 17:25:50< zookeeper> protip: next time you ask someone to be banned because of insults, try to make your own insults distinguishable from theirs. 20160606 17:26:05< Ravana_> I saw 2 new mp moderators though, so I thought the situation has improved 20160606 17:26:22< buddh> you wild also return fire sometimes zookeeper 20160606 17:26:38< buddh> it started when I asked him to stop insulting my team mates 20160606 17:26:48< buddh> hes like that all the times, so I told him where he belongs 20160606 17:27:30< Soliton> in general if you have an issue with rude/whatever players the solution is to not play with them again. very simple and needs no moderator intervention. 20160606 17:28:29< buddh> well I dont think you like racist, insulting , crazy toxic bombs on the server at all 20160606 17:28:33< buddh> hes the worst, its my first time to ask for someone to be removed 20160606 17:28:46< buddh> but hes driving away more players than he gets in (only himself) 20160606 17:29:18< zookeeper> if you have to return fire then do it some other time. not when you're reporting them. 20160606 17:30:22< buddh> y insulting the crazy Nazi is the same as being the crazy Nazi 20160606 17:31:39< Soliton> you're stooping to their level at least. 20160606 17:32:33< buddh> well I admit this time he went too far to be ignored 20160606 17:32:49< buddh> and you shouldnt ignore such people too, because they damage the server and the community 20160606 17:33:33< hk238> was it really that bad? :o 20160606 17:33:45< zookeeper> when you're asking someone to decide whether to ban person A, B, or both, then yes, at least help them help you by making it easy to make that judgement. 20160606 17:34:08< buddh> yes it was 20160606 17:34:25< buddh> he was playing a new player who landed a few lucky punches and instantly got mad at him 20160606 17:34:33-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@192.183.52.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20160606 17:34:49< buddh> insulting him like no shame at all 20160606 17:35:19< zookeeper> anyway, as said it's being looked into. feel free to /adminmsg further problems in the meanwhile. 20160606 17:35:33< buddh> y sorry for causing the mess by returning fire 20160606 17:35:47< buddh> next time I will only report him simply and ignore him 20160606 17:36:14< buddh> ok guys lets hope this will resolve in a manner that everybody can live with 20160606 17:36:37< buddh> especially that such toxic waste bombs of crazy tards be punished somehow 20160606 17:36:51< hk238> seems that you're also dropping all kinds of accusations without much restraint 20160606 17:37:03< buddh> hes doing it all the times 20160606 17:37:07< buddh> I despise him 20160606 17:37:13< buddh> this time I had enough 20160606 17:37:17< hk238> so that's your excuse? 20160606 17:37:33< buddh> for returning a favor ? 20160606 17:38:33< hk238> ? 20160606 17:38:37< buddh> there is a difference between an "offender" and someone who "talks back" 20160606 17:38:59-!- wario_ [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20160606 17:39:14< Soliton> really hard to distinguish that when reading the chat of that game... 20160606 17:39:26< buddh> just go to the top and notice the start of conversation 20160606 17:39:47< buddh> how he started to insult red for nothing 20160606 17:40:10< buddh> I couldnt tolerate him insulting new players to the server just because he couldnt handle dice 20160606 17:40:21< Soliton> and you returning in kind immediately. ;-) 20160606 17:40:47< buddh> it has sort of a history 20160606 17:40:56< buddh> like I said hes like that all the times 20160606 17:41:00-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160606 17:41:02< buddh> I had enough for one time 20160606 17:41:13< buddh> I am not like that usually but hes the worst 20160606 17:41:31< buddh> by a mile 20160606 17:41:56< buddh> I am sorry for having gone mad too, kind of 20160606 17:42:10< buddh> but its not that I feel sorry for him, but for you having to read me raging at someone 20160606 17:42:17< buddh> which happens maybe once a month maximum 20160606 17:42:25< buddh> and not like that 20160606 17:42:53< buddh> I gave him my worst honestly 20160606 17:43:08< buddh> I hope I hit him in the heart that he still feels the pain 20160606 17:43:26< buddh> but people like him? no comment on that 20160606 17:45:59< zookeeper> you mean, like, if you insult someone back on the internet hard enough, that might shock them into rethinking their manners? :p 20160606 17:47:20< buddh> hope dies last 20160606 17:48:04< buddh> if someone felt that offended by me that he leashes out on me like that I would think about what I did wrong 20160606 17:48:12< buddh> but thats just me, a normal person 20160606 17:49:12< buddh> unlike him, the "I insult you for dice and ban you for nothing Italian Ubermensch" 20160606 17:52:15< buddh> next time I will just report, alright 20160606 17:52:21< buddh> I am off, thanks for your attention 20160606 17:52:28 * buddh ism peace lol 20160606 17:53:02-!- buddh [543bad78@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.59.173.120] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20160606 18:04:50-!- brts [~brts@88.210.182.128] has joined #wesnoth 20160606 18:07:42-!- claymore2 [~hexchat@host86-165-240-55.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wesnoth 20160606 18:07:52-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50-107-119-188.adr02.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160606 18:09:39-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160606 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