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It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20160609 14:48:37-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 14:49:33-!- demok [~okan@85.104.23.104] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160609 15:05:35-!- Alduin_ [~Alduin@2001:4ca0:0:f255:e294:67ff:fe0e:e8c4] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20160609 15:40:28-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@2001:44b8:254:3200:8d05:510b:40bc:4ccb] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160609 15:43:26-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 15:46:53-!- Shiki [~Shiki@141.39.226.227] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 16:00:47-!- irco [~irco@HSI-KBW-078-042-015-165.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160609 16:08:46< DoctorFender1031> well... my whole "destroyable walls" idea is finally working in non-finalized testing code. 20160609 16:10:58< DoctorFender1031> gonna need to tweak the AI to place lower priority on walls though, otherwise it just keeps going after the walls and ignorign my army :P 20160609 16:15:18-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F3B069214BCC5913F54EFCD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 16:34:18-!- wario is now known as wariokitten 20160609 16:59:50-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 17:00:31-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 17:09:19-!- prkc [~prkc@5400DB22.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 17:18:15-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F3B06928C486250C54197C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 17:30:02-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 17:30:59-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 17:32:11-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 17:33:06-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 17:43:22-!- wario_ [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 17:44:03-!- wariokitten [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160609 17:54:28-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 17:55:06-!- wario_ [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160609 17:55:11-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 17:57:28-!- Lohengramm [sid1929@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oeatltkbtdamcszn] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20160609 17:58:45-!- Pepe_ [~ppjet@anderith.bouah.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160609 17:58:54-!- Lohengramm [sid1929@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mraqpnbsluiqurhi] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 17:58:54-!- Pepe_ [~ppjet@anderith.bouah.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:00:43-!- The_Unforgiven [~quassel@2601:40a:c101:5600:80b7:ef7f:c44a:299c] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:00:43-!- The_Unforgiven [~quassel@2601:40a:c101:5600:80b7:ef7f:c44a:299c] has quit [Changing host] 20160609 18:00:43-!- The_Unforgiven [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:01:29-!- claymore2 [~hexchat@host86-165-240-55.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:04:42-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160609 18:08:18-!- kalfat [~kalfat@pc7-236.btk.net.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:08:41-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20160609 18:09:17-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:10:03-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:14:49-!- hk238 [~kvirc@t224.ip7.netikka.fi] has quit [Quit: http://www.kvirc.net/ 4.9.1 Aria] 20160609 18:15:05-!- The_Unforgiven [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 18:16:19-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:26:21-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:33:10-!- prkc_ [~prkc@46.166.188.238] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:37:39-!- prkc [~prkc@5400DB22.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20160609 18:45:53-!- Gejoba [~gejoba@unaffiliated/gejoba] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20160609 18:52:20-!- _pepe [~jay@cpe-74-65-56-185.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 18:53:13< _pepe> Is anyone familiar with the new scenario editor? Is there a way to save out the map part and scenario part separately? 20160609 18:53:37< ancestral> New scenario editor? 20160609 18:53:41< ancestral> I guess not 20160609 18:54:00< ancestral> _pepe: If you don’t get a response here in the next while, try #wesnoth-dev :) 20160609 18:54:15< _pepe> the map edotor > new scenario, where you can place units and what not (OK, new since 1.10) 20160609 18:54:16< zookeeper> he means the unfinished unit placing things and such 20160609 18:54:57< _pepe> ah, so that part is still wip then? 20160609 18:54:58< zookeeper> i don't even know if those features are usable enough that they should be recommended for anyone 20160609 18:55:43< _pepe> OK, it's a really cool start though, I hope it comes together eventually 20160609 19:01:06-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50.36.224.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160609 19:03:49< DoctorFender1031> i never even noticed that menu option... 20160609 19:03:57< DoctorFender1031> zookeeper, in what way are they not ready? 20160609 19:04:15< zookeeper> i don't remember 20160609 19:06:32-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160609 19:07:24-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 19:08:09< DoctorFender1031> hmm... it seems certain menu items within that mode don't do anything, and its output appears to be something to be put inside a [scenario] tag and not a scenario itself. There's probably other weirdness, although one thing I CAN see it being useful for is placing some starting units on a map and then copying out its [unit] tags 20160609 19:08:43< DoctorFender1031> definitely not for someone who can't work with WML already, but it seems to be useful somewhat even now 20160609 19:09:43< DoctorFender1031> hmm... its [unit] tags actually include all kinds of useless junk 20160609 19:09:56< DoctorFender1031> though that could be cleared with a search and replace... 20160609 19:10:12< DoctorFender1031> yeah, I'm seeing what you mean. 20160609 19:13:22-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F3B06928C486250C54197C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 19:14:06-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160609 19:17:05-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 19:18:50< celticminstrel> My main problem with the scenario editor is that the output it produces is different from the standard format for a campaign or MP scenario. 20160609 19:19:10< celticminstrel> To be specific, it outputs the content of a [scenario] or [multiplayer] tag. 20160609 19:19:31< celticminstrel> It's also not very good at deciding what data needs to be saved and what data should be left out. 20160609 19:19:46< celticminstrel> For example, it will generate fixed names for all placed units, if I recall correctly. 20160609 19:21:22< celticminstrel> It's probably possible to select a scenario built with the editor in MP mode. (I haven't tested though.) 20160609 19:23:17< celticminstrel> I wonder how it represents the scenario in memory. 20160609 19:23:59< celticminstrel> I wouldn't be all that surprised if it uses the same unit class that's used in-game (which would be utterly idiotic). 20160609 19:24:28-!- Gejoba [~gejoba@unaffiliated/gejoba] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 19:28:48-!- wario is now known as wariokittun 20160609 19:29:13< _pepe> *My issue with the scenario editor, as a beginner, is that it combines the map cfg with the scenario one, as opposed to 2 separate files 20160609 19:29:46< _pepe> Also the make recruit list seems to be broken... 20160609 19:30:35< celticminstrel> Yeah, that too is a problem. 20160609 19:39:55-!- claymore2 [~hexchat@host86-165-240-55.range86-165.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20160609 19:43:40-!- Gejoba is now known as demanunav 20160609 19:43:52-!- demanunav is now known as Gejoba 20160609 19:49:50-!- irco [~irco@HSI-KBW-078-042-015-165.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 19:54:10-!- demok [~okan@78.161.188.169] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 20:00:07-!- Gejoba is now known as demanunav 20160609 20:01:11-!- demanunav is now known as Gejoba 20160609 20:07:28-!- _pepe [~jay@cpe-74-65-56-185.rochester.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20160609 20:17:31-!- The_Unforgiven [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 20:18:17-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160609 20:28:56-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ChipmunkV] 20160609 20:30:27-!- Gejoba is now known as Gejoba_hiding 20160609 20:37:36-!- Aginor [~andreas@unaffiliated/aginor] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160609 21:01:27-!- irco [~irco@HSI-KBW-078-042-015-165.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160609 21:08:19-!- Gejoba_hiding is now known as gejoba 20160609 21:11:53-!- gejoba is now known as Gejob 20160609 21:11:56-!- Gejob is now known as Gejoba 20160609 21:28:47-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 21:29:28-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 21:37:58-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 21:38:37-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 21:46:15-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20160609 21:46:33-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160609 21:52:54-!- Vadatajs [~Vadatajs@97-127-152-102.cdrr.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160609 21:54:07-!- Vadatajs [~Vadatajs@97-127-152-102.cdrr.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 22:05:37-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Quit: Haldrik] 20160609 22:06:15-!- kalfat [~kalfat@pc7-236.btk.net.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20160609 22:09:11-!- oldlaptop [~quassel@50-107-125-80.adr02.mskg.mi.frontiernet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160609 22:23:03-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20160609 22:44:10-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-4-254-184.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20160609 22:52:16-!- Gejoba is now known as Gejoba_Not_here 20160609 22:56:34-!- Gejoba_Not_here is now known as Gejoba 20160609 23:46:06-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Jun 10 00:00:24 2016