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20160707 01:40:25< bumbadadabum> ok wow getting my dependencies together took forever
20160707 01:42:23< vultraz> got your build?
20160707 01:45:06< bumbadadabum> it's building
20160707 01:49:52< vultraz> celticminstrel / celmin: how's this look to you? http://pastebin.com/BWeZJAKh
20160707 01:51:04< celmin> Seems okay? As long as it works.
20160707 01:52:49< vultraz> haven't tested
20160707 01:53:47< vultraz> bumbadadabum: oh, yeah, we have a new game font too
20160707 01:54:48< vultraz> celticminstrel: hm.. seems like put_unit doesn't respect placement= in place of x,y
20160707 01:54:53< vultraz> bug or intended behavior?
20160707 01:55:35< celmin> It sounds more like a bug to me?
20160707 01:56:08< vultraz> wiki does say "Coordinates can be passed as the first two arguments, otherwise the table is expected to have two fields x and y", but placement should be valid too
20160707 01:56:26< vultraz> then again...
20160707 01:56:33< vultraz> placement=leader makes sense
20160707 01:56:38< vultraz> but placement=map, not as much
20160707 01:56:41 * vultraz ponders
20160707 01:56:59< celmin> What does placement=map mean?
20160707 01:58:12< vultraz> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/SingleUnitWML
20160707 01:58:21< celmin> Geh.
20160707 01:58:55< celmin> I see,
20160707 01:59:45< vultraz> this presents a conundrum :/
20160707 02:00:10< celmin> Where is placement implemented?
20160707 02:00:45< celmin> Maybe it is intentional for it to not be honoured by put_unit.
20160707 02:01:02< vultraz> honestly, no idea
20160707 02:01:57< vultraz> weird that there doesn't seem to be a simple way to achieve what I'm trying to do here
20160707 02:02:14< vultraz> that is, a proxy unit that can get placed near the leader :|
20160707 02:02:18< celmin> Well, you could always go with wesnoth.wml_actions.unit.
20160707 02:02:32< celmin> Then placement would definitely work.
20160707 02:02:44< vultraz> (context: trying to create a simpler lua-based alternative to whatshisname's macros)
20160707 02:03:01< vultraz> I could
20160707 02:04:53< vultraz> is [unit] not lua?
20160707 02:05:21< vultraz> doesn't seem to be :|
20160707 02:06:51< celmin> Doesn't matter whether or not it's implemented in Lua - you can call it either way.
20160707 02:07:39< vultraz> yes
20160707 02:07:45< vultraz> but I was looking for its implementation
20160707 02:09:29< bumbadadabum> vultraz: holy shit my console is getting spammed
20160707 02:09:36< vultraz> bumbadadabum: with?
20160707 02:09:37< bumbadadabum> fuckload of AI errors and
20160707 02:09:54< bumbadadabum> 20160706 22:02:07 warning gui/event: distributor mouse button left [preferences]: . Mouse down on non focused widget and mouse not captured, we missed events.
20160707 02:10:39< vultraz> yeah
20160707 02:10:45< vultraz> dunno how to deal with that crap
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20160707 12:00:05< molt> hey all
20160707 12:01:19< molt> i'm about to try to compile wesnoth and was wondering if anyone had any advice / instructions. I'm running a fresh install of Linux Mint 18 (64bit). I'm also looking at this page for instructions --> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Compilingwesnoth
20160707 12:08:43< loonycyborg> molt: well, generally when I'm trying to compile wesnoth on a new distro I just install scons and try running it from wesnoth dir, and install any missing dependencies based on errors 
20160707 12:10:33< molt> thanks for the tip loonycborg. Can you explain a bit more. I'm brand new to this and finding it difficult to break in. For example, I have no idea what scons is. And, should I, lets say, install the newest version of wesnoth on my system?
20160707 12:10:45< molt> I already cloned wesnoth from git
20160707 12:11:33< loonycyborg> scons is build tool, it's main point is to run tasks required to build wesnoth from source
20160707 12:12:01< molt> super.
20160707 12:12:14< molt> okay. so what is the procedure to build scons?
20160707 12:12:48< loonycyborg> you mean build wesnoth with scons? or getting scons itself?
20160707 12:13:54< loonycyborg> to get scons itself on a debian based distro you do 'sudo apt-get install scons'
20160707 12:14:05< molt> well, i guess another way of saying this is -- I am brand new and trying to get into wensoth development. Need to be mentored and explained how to do this from the beginning
20160707 12:14:46< molt> so when you say build wesnoth with scons or get scons itself, I really have no idea what the proper way to do this or the procedure should be, so I can't answer :)
20160707 12:15:25< molt> i'm good with linux btw, and I am okay at programming. just new to open source contribution
20160707 12:15:52< molt> and there are no debian-based systems instructions on the wiki page for compiling
20160707 12:16:05< molt> sudo apt-get build-dep wesnoth didn't work
20160707 12:16:13< loonycyborg> really?
20160707 12:16:18< loonycyborg> what was error message?
20160707 12:17:14< molt> http://pastebin.com/jSvxdeME
20160707 12:18:23< loonycyborg> hmm I don't know what exactly this message means, I'm not on a debian based distro
20160707 12:19:06< molt> okay
20160707 12:19:08< molt> brb
20160707 12:20:45< loonycyborg> molt: but the general practice of building software from source on linux is this:
20160707 12:21:15< loonycyborg> you use that software's buildsystem to build it
20160707 12:21:26< loonycyborg> it generally will depend on some other libraries
20160707 12:21:51< loonycyborg> and you need to get those libraries with apt or whatever current distro's equivalent is
20160707 12:22:28< loonycyborg> there is particular quirk for debian based systems
20160707 12:23:09< loonycyborg> their library packages are split into runtime packages, that only enough for running software those libraries
20160707 12:23:50< loonycyborg> and -dev packages that are needed to build against that library. -dev packages contain stuff like headers
20160707 12:23:52< molt> gotcha. super. I knew all that up until the info about how debian systems split their packages
20160707 12:27:50< molt> is there anyone on the dev team running a debian-based system?
20160707 12:28:34< loonycyborg> shadowm does at least
20160707 12:28:57< loonycyborg> he's running actual debian though, not mint
20160707 12:30:56< loonycyborg> when I want to check what debian package a library maps to I usuall search on https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
20160707 12:33:35< loonycyborg> molt: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=91011
20160707 12:34:04< loonycyborg> this is what I got from googling mint and build-dep :P
20160707 12:34:59< loonycyborg> seems needs an extra step to make build-dep work
20160707 12:35:12< loonycyborg> *seems mint needs an extra step
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20160707 13:13:12< molt> thanks for the pointers loonycborg. I left a message for shadowm. I've got to run, but hopefully can get moving on this soon so I can help you guys out.
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20160707 13:36:06< Soliton> wow, the pastebin is already gone.
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20160707 15:27:34< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: The shadow waves look fine to me
20160707 15:36:35< zookeeper> so you see something other than just a black blob sliding on the ground?
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20160707 15:39:58< zookeeper> because that is exactly what i see: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/shadowwaveblob.png
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20160707 15:42:23< zookeeper> i mean if it's intentional and it's just supposed to literally be a shadow then fine, but i can't tell if it is or not
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20160707 15:57:11< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: It's supposed to be a shadow creeping on the ground
20160707 15:57:18< bumbadadabum> then some kind of explosion thingy on the target
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20160707 16:16:44< zookeeper> okay
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20160707 16:33:54< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: it wasn't even MY anim ;_;
20160707 16:33:59< bumbadadabum> Coffee did it iirc
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20160707 17:12:10< vultraz> celticminstrel: do you think I explained the basics alright here? https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/678#issuecomment-231144558
20160707 17:12:42< vultraz> considering his comments above
20160707 17:24:50< celmin> I'm not sure it was explained very well, and I feel one thing was a little misleading, but aside from that I think it's basically correct what you've said.
20160707 17:24:59< celmin> Well, maybe more than a little misleading.
20160707 17:25:22< vultraz> Which part?
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20160707 17:25:37< celmin> dofile / require
20160707 17:25:50< celmin> I commented, so you can read what I said if you want.
20160707 17:25:55< celmin> Or ask for clarification here.
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20160707 17:26:32< vultraz> Ah, i see
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20160707 17:28:20< celmin> Added a parenthetical since I suddenly realized I might have been a little misleading too,
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20160707 19:16:09< zookeeper> JyrkiVesterinen, account created
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20160707 19:40:50< JyrkiVesterinen> Thanks zookeeper. :)
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20160707 19:57:21< JyrkiVesterinen> I assigned the "Monte Carlo simulation mode for damage preview calculation" task in the NotSoEasyCoding page to myself.
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