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20160720 00:00:28< celticminstrel> Not that I can think of. Might be a good idea to get someone else to review it too.
20160720 00:05:41< vultraz> btw, anon namespaces are still acceptable, right?
20160720 00:05:50< celticminstrel> Sure?
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20160720 00:56:44< vultraz> ancestral: any progress with checking on those bugs?
20160720 00:57:58< ancestral> Pulling from master, but might need time on Thursday to fix them
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20160720 01:02:43< vultraz> ancestral: ok, just as long as you can get them check this week
20160720 01:02:54< ancestral> Yes
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20160720 01:28:58< vultraz> checked*
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20160720 02:57:41< irker750> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master ee8ff792b595 / src/generators/ (default_map_generator_job.cpp default_map_generator_job.hpp): Cleaned up map generator code https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ee8ff792b59509fa797dfdc9887985d442952d4d
20160720 02:57:44< irker750> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 02a43e2d6170 / data/gui/window/preferences/02_hotkeys.cfg: tpreferences: small hotkey tooltip tweak https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/02a43e2d6170087c09c25f132dcff6e14723e220
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20160720 03:01:38< vultraz> celticminstrel: any progress on spiritpo?
20160720 03:02:25< celmin> No progress. The branch works perfectly well as far as I can tell, but updates to scons or CMake build process may be required.
20160720 03:02:42< vultraz> Aginor: I hope you can find a fix for the vanishing button overlays in-game before the release
20160720 03:03:05< celmin> It's possible though that no such updates are required. I'm not really sure.
20160720 03:03:28< vultraz> celmin: why don't you merge and we can have our packagers deal with that before release.
20160720 03:03:49< celmin> No, something like this absolutely needs to be done before a release.
20160720 03:04:00< vultraz> uh
20160720 03:04:01< vultraz> I just saidthat
20160720 03:04:22< celmin> Oh...
20160720 03:04:29< celmin> Who did you mean by packagers?
20160720 03:04:50< celmin> loonycyborg?
20160720 03:05:00< vultraz> well, he would probably know what needs to be done, yes
20160720 03:05:06< celmin> (And ancestral, but that's not relevant here since I've already handled the OSX side of things.)
20160720 03:05:53< celmin> I think it's better to deal with it before merging. That's why I pushed the branch to the main repo where others could add commits.
20160720 03:06:24< celmin> When you said "have our packagers deal with it" for some reason I was thinking of the other packagers.
20160720 03:06:42< celmin> Like, the people who make rpms for various Linux repos.
20160720 03:07:30< vultraz> I have no objections to merging #707, BTW
20160720 03:07:48< celmin> We'll leave that to Aginor then.
20160720 03:08:22< celmin> What about that other one...
20160720 03:08:38< vultraz> Monte Carlo damage calculation? Aginor wanted to look at that
20160720 03:08:45< celmin> Not that one.
20160720 03:08:58< celmin> 670
20160720 03:09:23< celmin> Also 698 I guess, though I'm not quite sure if he's finished tweaking it.
20160720 03:09:48< vultraz> 670?
20160720 03:09:53< vultraz> the new keys for logo thing?
20160720 03:09:55< celmin> Yeah.
20160720 03:10:27< vultraz> I have no objections to merging it
20160720 03:10:35< vultraz> but I don't really see the usefulness
20160720 03:10:39< vultraz> but if you want to, go ahead
20160720 03:10:49< vultraz> I guess we need to support core authors >_>
20160720 03:12:00< vultraz> as for 698, I'd rather search_map/search_recall be a single search = map/recall/all (or 'both') key
20160720 03:12:28< celmin> You should probably say that there rather than here.
20160720 03:12:54< celmin> Though be prepared for a counter-comment from me. >_>
20160720 03:13:08< vultraz> trying to figure out what he's doing with the code..
20160720 03:13:18< celmin> I'm not saying I disagree, but I'm seeing at least a small problem with that approach.
20160720 03:14:50< irker750> wesnoth: dorng wesnoth:master c67538f93d70 / / (5 files in 4 dirs): [game_config]: new keys for logo https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/c67538f93d705907af00cf865ac80d60f5c3c725
20160720 03:14:52< irker750> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 939e15f771a9 / / (5 files in 4 dirs): Merge pull request #670 from dorng/core_logo https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/939e15f771a92e6edcd837c993fbc9b1766b4053
20160720 03:15:12< vultraz> I'm not sure what he'd doing, here
20160720 03:15:21< vultraz> why doesn't he just recall 'unit'?
20160720 03:15:43< vultraz> why is he constructing a new table
20160720 03:16:22< celmin> To clear out SUF features.
20160720 03:16:30< celmin> [recall] supports (almost) full SUF
20160720 03:16:43< vultraz> and?
20160720 03:17:39< vultraz> if you already match a unit with an SUF it shouldn't matter how much info you pass to [recall], it should still match the same unit
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20160720 03:18:13< vultraz> anyway, I would also like [recall] ported to Lua
20160720 03:18:17< celmin> Credits are data/about.cfg right?
20160720 03:18:20< vultraz> yes
20160720 03:18:27< celmin> And you're wrong.
20160720 03:18:27< vultraz> I have to go do some stuff, I'll be back later
20160720 03:18:36< celmin> If you pass additional data, it could match no unit at all.
20160720 03:18:48< vultraz> but you just matched *with* that data
20160720 03:18:57< celmin> No, because it's a subtag.
20160720 03:19:14< vultraz> wait, what is he doing?
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20160720 03:19:22< vultraz> now I'm confused
20160720 03:19:41< vultraz> he's adding a subtag with an SUF of who to recall once setting a role?
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20160720 03:20:21< vultraz> if that's the case I do not support this feature
20160720 03:20:37< vultraz> if it's adding support to auto recall the guy the role was assigned too, great
20160720 03:20:51< vultraz> but not so if it's support for recalling someone else
20160720 03:20:51< celmin> Sigh.
20160720 03:21:02< celmin> It's not that.
20160720 03:21:13< vultraz> be back later
20160720 03:21:17< celmin> The [recall] tag has a mixture of SUF and additional attributes.
20160720 03:21:26< celmin> For example, you can specify exactly where the recalled unit appears.
20160720 03:21:33< celmin> That's the primary intent of [auto_recall].
20160720 03:21:41< celmin> To allow you to specify the target location.
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20160720 04:32:04< Aginor> Celticminstrel: I might not be reviewing code today, it seems life has struck and I get to do other things than to sit in front of a computer all night long
20160720 04:33:16< vultraz> Aginor: no rush
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20160720 07:21:50< arka> Is there any beginner's job there for me to do.
20160720 07:22:30< arka> That should be a '?' instead.
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20160720 07:24:40< Soliton> there's https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Easycoding it might not be completely up-to-date though.
20160720 07:25:05< Soliton> have you managed to compile the game already?
20160720 07:26:18< arka> Uh well I should be able to do it but I haven't tried yet.
20160720 07:30:39< Aginor> arka: FYI: the game wants SDL2 and gcc 4.7
20160720 07:30:52< Aginor> (on linux)
20160720 07:32:18< arka> I have them on my system(Ubuntu 16.04 it is).
20160720 07:34:39< arka> I will catch up with you later after I try compiling it.Thanks!
20160720 07:35:07< Aginor> I won't be around, I've got social engagements :)
20160720 07:37:02< arka> It seem you are very nice bunch of people someone will help me for sure if I have a problem.
20160720 07:40:54< vultraz> arka: but 4.8 or later is better
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20160720 07:43:47< arka> Well its actually 5.4
20160720 07:44:14< vultraz> that's fine
20160720 07:44:18< arka> I am currently downloading the source.
20160720 07:45:14< arka> Should I work on 'Bug?: not all options/parameters of wesnoth.find_cost_map() work as described here. I don't know if that is a bug in the code or if the description on that page is wrong'
20160720 07:46:02< arka> Given that I only know C++ and bit of Algorithms.
20160720 07:46:27< vultraz> hm
20160720 07:46:29< vultraz> not sure
20160720 07:46:46< arka> what would you recommend.
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20160720 07:48:12< vultraz> hmmmm
20160720 07:48:21< vultraz> can't think of anything off the top of my head
20160720 07:48:48< vultraz> arka: why don't you take a look at the bug tracker (http://bugs.wesnoth.org/) and see if there's something you can fix
20160720 07:49:22< Soliton> seems like a simple thing to just figure out how find_cost_map() works and see whether that matches the documentation.
20160720 07:49:59< Soliton> probably involves some lua to test stuff though.
20160720 07:50:06< arka> Soliton: Should I give it a shot.
20160720 07:50:33< Soliton> that's for you to decide. most important is to work on something that interests you.
20160720 07:51:17< arka> Soliton: So I should learn lua in addition to what I know right?
20160720 07:51:53< Soliton> you can ask (mattsc probably) for an example to test wesnoth.find_cost_map().
20160720 07:52:07< Soliton> i doubt you need to actually learn much lua for that.
20160720 07:54:07< arka> He is offline right now.Maybe later.Anything more you would like to add?
20160720 07:55:00< Soliton> i don't have more on that specific issue i'd have to investigate as well.
20160720 07:55:30< Aginor> arka: this might be good https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Easycoding#Timer_pause_button
20160720 07:55:46< Aginor> or the concede button, there was an attempt at that that was abandoned
20160720 07:56:15< Aginor> now, I disappear
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20160720 07:56:51< Aginor> arka: I generally read the backlog, but it might take me some time to respond
20160720 07:57:19< Aginor> arka: if you run into any problems or have questions, just ask here and someone will help you :)
20160720 07:57:31< Aginor> (possibly slowly :) )
20160720 07:58:08< arka> Aginor: Thank You very much.I am pretty excited.Doesn't seem to be slow though.
20160720 07:58:27< arka> Aginor: :)
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20160720 12:54:50 * celticminstrel pokes Aginor 
20160720 13:01:25< loonycyborg> celticminstrel: wrt spiritpo we'd need to add ability to install po files
20160720 13:01:29< loonycyborg> instead of mo files
20160720 13:02:05< loonycyborg> where exactly does wesnoth look for po files in spiritpo branch?
20160720 13:02:55< celticminstrel> Same base directory as it looked for mo files (translations/) but with the structure reversed to match the structure of po/
20160720 13:03:02< loonycyborg> as far as packagers are concerned this will be extremely irregular I think
20160720 13:03:25< celticminstrel> So simply renaming po/ to translations/ would make it work, but that would distribute some extra files.
20160720 13:03:54< loonycyborg> would copying only *.po files work?
20160720 13:04:44< loonycyborg> while keeping overal structur
20160720 13:04:45< loonycyborg> e
20160720 13:04:58< loonycyborg> basicaly filtering off all non-po files
20160720 13:05:27< loonycyborg> Rhonda: what do you think about this plan to use .po files directly as a packager? :P
20160720 13:06:21< celticminstrel> Yeah. For XCode I literally used rsync -rv --update --inplace --times --delete -FF po translations
20160720 13:06:44< celticminstrel> Rhonda is a packager?
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20160720 13:10:01< vultraz>  ubuntu i think
20160720 13:30:22< loonycyborg> Rhonda is wesnoth's debian packager
20160720 13:30:33< celticminstrel> Ah.
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20160720 18:13:13< shadowm> She's also part of the team that does Wesnoth on Ubuntu.
20160720 18:14:14< shadowm> Although I guess they're only two people total.
20160720 18:14:22< Rhonda> loonycyborg: Well, vincent_c took over that mostly.  But what do you mean "to use .po files directly as a packager"?  Aren't we?
20160720 18:15:01< loonycyborg> Rhonda: currently they're processed into .mo files with msgfmt
20160720 18:15:15< Rhonda> Ah, right.  Which is much more efficient.
20160720 18:15:24< loonycyborg> spirit_po branch drops that step and uses them directly
20160720 18:15:26< Rhonda> What do you envision to be the benefit of using po files directly?
20160720 18:17:32< loonycyborg> iirc to make life easier for UMC creators
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20160720 18:18:14< loonycyborg> and also that modern system can absorb extra computational costs of using po files directly
20160720 18:19:07< loonycyborg> Rhonda: you know any other projects that made similiar decision?
20160720 18:22:37< Rhonda> Never heard of it …
20160720 18:23:38< Rhonda> I'm not a fan of saying throw more hardware at stuff instead of using something optimised.  Which is used everywhere.
20160720 18:34:58< celticminstrel> I don't really know how mo-files are used, but if they're loaded all in one go, then I don't think there would be any difference in efficiency of lookup. I'm not specifically attached to fully dropping .mo files, but it simplifies the code to have only one possible source of translations (as supporting .po files should make life easier for UMC creators, as previously mentioned).
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20160720 18:36:06< celticminstrel> If the consensus is to keep .mo files and also support .po files, I can do that. (Naturally it wouldn't be ready for 1.12.5 though.)
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20160720 18:58:39< shadowm> The source code to GNU gettext is freely available btw.
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20160720 19:08:25< celticminstrel> I realize.
20160720 19:09:24< vultraz> what does that have to do with anything?
20160720 19:09:47< celticminstrel> I think he's pointing out that I could easily learn how .mo files are used by examining the source.
20160720 19:11:36< celticminstrel> BTW vultraz, did you have anything to say on the new role stuff?
20160720 19:11:45< vultraz> i posted my comment from earlier
20160720 19:11:58< vultraz> i still don't fully understand the function of auto_recall
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20160720 19:13:31< irker102> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master f56cb7f9bb0f / projectfiles/VC12/ (wesnoth.vcxproj wesnothlib.vcxproj): Visual Studio: enable multi-processor compilation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f56cb7f9bb0f9609b874c34211b7ef61dcb83d95
20160720 19:13:31< irker102> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 6587ffeba6df / projectfiles/VC12/ (wesnoth.vcxproj wesnothlib.vcxproj): Merge pull request #708 from jyrkive/multiprocessor-compilation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6587ffeba6df45eab5e65bb54093a7b396b1bdc5
20160720 19:13:56< celticminstrel> vultraz: You could always post that in the PR too, but I'll try to explain...
20160720 19:14:04< gfgtdf> the souce of boost gettext is also freely available, i'd guess that its easier to understand for a c++ developer
20160720 19:14:24< gfgtdf> than gnu gettext
20160720 19:14:24< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: I was under the impression that Boost simply calls the C library?
20160720 19:14:33< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: no it doesnt
20160720 19:14:39< celticminstrel> auto_recall means that, if the unit was found on the recall list, it will be recalled.
20160720 19:14:44< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: it doesnt depend on the c library at all
20160720 19:15:12< celticminstrel> I originally just made it a boolean, but then it was mentioned that you might want to decide where it's recalled to.
20160720 19:15:23< celticminstrel> So now it's a tag that accepts the extra keys of [recall].
20160720 19:15:50< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: Ah, I see. Boost can be pretty hard to understand though, sometimes. (This might not be one of those times, I guess.)
20160720 19:17:28< vultraz> celticminstrel: the extra keys being.... x,y?
20160720 19:17:51< celticminstrel> vultraz: Yeah, and a couple others.
20160720 19:18:03< celticminstrel> The [recall] tag does not pass the x and y along to the SUF.
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20160720 19:18:40< celticminstrel> ...thinking about it, this might make it impossible to implement in Lua with the current API...?
20160720 19:20:04< vultraz> uh..
20160720 19:20:11< vultraz> just strip those keys?
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20160720 19:20:23< celticminstrel> Hmm, I guess the C++ version has the same problem, so it could be done in Lua using the same logic.
20160720 19:20:51< celticminstrel> The thing is that vconfigs are immutable, so if you want to change them, you need to get either the base or parsed version.
20160720 19:21:07< celticminstrel> And in the case of recall, getting the parsed version is bad since it would strip any use of $this_unit.
20160720 19:21:28< celticminstrel> So the solution seems to be to get the base version, strip those keys, and the convert it back to vconfig.
20160720 19:22:05< celticminstrel> s/base/literal/
20160720 19:22:27< vultraz> cfg._literal, cfg.x, xfg.y = nil, cfg = wesnoth.tovconfig(cfg)
20160720 19:22:34< celticminstrel> Yeah,
20160720 19:22:41< celticminstrel> This is exactly what the C++ version does as well.
20160720 19:23:02< vultraz> as for [role] [auto_recall], I think it should be called [recall_at]
20160720 19:23:05< celticminstrel> (Well, it sets the coords to "recall" rather than nil.)
20160720 19:23:33< celticminstrel> [auto_recall] is literally [recall] minus the SUF, so it's not just location.
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20160720 19:26:21< vultraz> ahh
20160720 19:26:22< vultraz> now I see
20160720 19:27:00< celticminstrel> If [recall] were ported to Lua, then [role] and [recall] would probably call a common function to do the actual work.
20160720 19:27:31< celticminstrel> The [recall] function would just remove the x,y keys and run the filter, then pass the result on to the common function.
20160720 19:28:26< vultraz> off the top of my head, couldn't it be done by fetching a side's recall list, copying the first matching unit to a private table, and then placing that on map?
20160720 19:28:38< vultraz> (this common function, that is)
20160720 19:28:41< vultraz> i mean
20160720 19:28:45< vultraz> that's how it could be done
20160720 19:28:46< vultraz> in lua
20160720 19:29:25< vultraz> anyway im going to get some sleep
20160720 19:29:26< celticminstrel> What do you mean by copying to a private table...
20160720 19:29:44< vultraz> i was up all night binge watching Stranger Things and i cant think straight
20160720 19:29:50< celticminstrel> If I recall correctly, wesnoth.get_recall_units takes a SUF.
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20160720 19:30:53< gfgtdf> we have unit:to_map in lua already what it cannotdo is the leadr recall animation stuff that [recall] can do
20160720 19:31:31< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: Animations can be done separately though, right?
20160720 19:31:51< celticminstrel> If you called to_map and then animated the unit, would it look right, or would it appear on the map and then animate?
20160720 19:31:57< vultraz> isn't unit:to_map the same as put_unit(unit)
20160720 19:32:01< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: there are some lua animation functions, not sure if they can do that
20160720 19:32:01< celticminstrel> Yes.
20160720 19:32:23< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: There's an animate WML tag that I think could do it, at least.
20160720 19:32:32< celticminstrel> [animate_unit] I think.
20160720 19:32:33< vultraz> yes
20160720 19:33:01< vultraz> which just calls wesnoth.animate_unit
20160720 19:33:06< vultraz> great implementation lol
20160720 19:33:19< vultraz> SLEEP
20160720 19:33:44< celticminstrel> Sounds terrible to me.
20160720 19:33:53< celticminstrel> Given how complicated that tag is.
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20160720 21:50:30< celticminstrel> zookeeper: Any opinions on PR 698?
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20160720 22:41:51< zookeeper> celticminstrel, search_map= seems entirely redundant, reassign= is nice. i have no idea if that auto recalling thing is actually useful or overengineering for some hypothetical usecases. i can't actually read all the discussion because it happens in several versions of several PR's in hundreds of comments. -.-
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20160720 23:20:02< zookeeper> celticminstrel, commented.
20160720 23:22:04< zookeeper> this whole thing has bounced back and forth in too many PR's and too many different suggestions and versions that it feels like trying to keep track of a ferret with adhd
20160720 23:22:14< celticminstrel> Heh...
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