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20160723 01:47:52< iceiceice> Rhonda, that's fine
20160723 01:48:04< iceiceice> i think i was a bit thick, i know very little about debian packaging
20160723 01:48:15< iceiceice> so i didn't really understand the significance of this "arch-all" thing that shadowm pointed out
20160723 01:51:21< iceiceice> i think the GNU docs in that section we looked at could definitely stand some improvements
20160723 01:53:17< shadowm> Same as Rhonda, really, I don't particularly care about one option over the other as long as it's based on actual facts and not speculation.
20160723 02:31:38< vultraz> The Greenlight submission is ready. Planing on making it public after I get back from lunch.
20160723 02:34:52< celmin> I assume "making it public" is different from "announcing it on Twitter".
20160723 02:35:44< vultraz> both will happen
20160723 02:38:16< vultraz> yes, there is a difference
20160723 02:38:18< wedge009> Aww, harsh. So we're going on Steam now?
20160723 02:38:24< vultraz> but I'm going to announce it 
20160723 02:38:28< vultraz> wedge009: greenlight
20160723 02:38:31< vultraz> if we get greenlit, then yes
20160723 02:38:35< celmin> What's harsh?
20160723 02:38:38< wedge009> Well, that's the goal, right?
20160723 02:39:02< wedge009> Sorry, I assumed you were joking when you were implying that vultraz's announcement would only be on Twitter.
20160723 02:40:00< celmin> I feel like I said something misleading somehow.
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20160723 02:47:46< iceiceice> i didnt even know wesnoth had a twitter
20160723 02:47:57< iceiceice> we should have like, an irc bot that relays the tweets
20160723 02:48:08< iceiceice> so i dont have to look at twitter regularly :)
20160723 02:48:20< shadowm> There is, in #wesnoth.
20160723 02:48:54< shadowm> It's just that our snobby devs don't look at #wesnoth, but then again, they wouldn't be interested in Twitter updates (or Twitter's very existence) either.
20160723 02:49:43< celmin> I think most of the devs do go in #wesnoth though
20160723 02:49:49< iceiceice> i dont
20160723 02:49:52< celmin> gfgtdf doesn't usually.
20160723 02:50:10< iceiceice> idk why i dont
20160723 02:50:12< celmin> iceiceice: The active ones I mean.
20160723 02:50:14< shadowm> Active devs I mean, like celmin, zookeeper and other people who I know don't care about Twitter.
20160723 02:50:34< iceiceice> i remember the #wesnoth channel being pretty noisy when i was briefly in it
20160723 02:50:37< celmin> Why do you think I don't care about Twitter?
20160723 02:50:49< shadowm> Okay, I guess I don't know about you in particular.
20160723 02:51:07< shadowm> I tend to assume that people who don't follow me wouldn't follow Wesnoth either. :V
20160723 02:51:13< celmin> Zookeeper's usually in #wesnoth
20160723 02:51:49< celmin> Interesting assumption...
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20160723 04:06:57< vultraz> ok, the entry is public
20160723 04:06:59< vultraz> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=729138129
20160723 04:07:28< vultraz> You all have ONE HOUR to give me any critique before I announce it on the forums and Twitter
20160723 04:07:54< celmin> One hour isn't very much. :P
20160723 04:10:04< celmin> Nice trailer, nice screenshots.
20160723 04:10:38< celmin> Only thirteen languages are listed. I'm guessing those are the ones that are at least mostly complete?
20160723 04:11:01< celmin> Pffft, release data "early 2017".
20160723 04:11:02< celmin> ^date
20160723 04:11:21< vultraz> I listed all available to list that are over 80% here:  https://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/?package=allcore&order=trans&version=branch
20160723 04:11:24< celmin> (But I guess maybe that's true specifically for 1.14 or something.)
20160723 04:11:45< celmin> Ah, so Steam makes you pick the languages from a list?
20160723 04:11:46< vultraz> yes, I'm hoping for an early 2017 release date for 1.14
20160723 04:11:49< vultraz> yes
20160723 04:13:19< celmin> Description sounds fine too.
20160723 04:13:31< celmin> I really hope there are other people around to comment on it.
20160723 04:13:51< celmin> Though I guess it's not a problem if there aren't.
20160723 04:13:57< celmin> I mean, I don't see any problems.
20160723 04:14:12< vultraz> Good
20160723 04:14:58< celmin> But it's always better to hear multiple opinions.
20160723 04:16:38< vultraz> I bugged the people in #frogatto for some
20160723 04:17:46< celmin> Somehow I can't quite place the music.
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20160723 04:17:56< vultraz> Northern Mountains and another track
20160723 04:18:11< vultraz> it fades into the latter
20160723 04:18:14< celmin> I see.
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20160723 04:23:48< celmin> Nothing wrong with me already voting, right vultraz?
20160723 04:23:59< vultraz> no
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20160723 04:27:51< irker820> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master a3e535300bf7 / data/themes/ (default.cfg editor.cfg): Revert "Don't show any images for buttons in menu bar" https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a3e535300bf7777c470e24e85ff0c9d91ce1534b
20160723 04:27:53< vultraz> ^ should satisfy some people
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20160723 04:35:49< celmin> Thanks
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20160723 04:54:32< JyrkiVesterinen> vultraz: The description says "the game will be absolutely free to play". That may mislead some people to think that Wesnoth is a F2P game with microtransactions.
20160723 04:56:08< ancestral> Yeah good point
20160723 04:56:17< ancestral> It’s just “free”
20160723 04:57:49< shadowm> +1
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20160723 04:58:30< ancestral> Once vultraz announces on Twitter, then I’ll announce on other social media
20160723 04:58:51< ancestral> (specifically, Reddit and Hacker News)
20160723 04:59:47< shadowm> "THIS IS YET ANOTHER PIXEL GAME THIS EFFING SUCKS DOWNVOTED"
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20160723 05:04:17< ancestral> omfg they just copied ogre tactics lol
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20160723 05:04:35< ancestral> Or better
20160723 05:04:41< ancestral> “It took them 10 years to make this?”
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20160723 05:28:14< ancestral> Okay, I updated the stylesheet on /r/wesnoth #shadowm
20160723 05:28:30< ancestral> (Sizes in the sidebar are hopefully better)
20160723 05:29:13< ancestral> (Also, probably I wanted to use ‘@‘ instead of ‘#’. /me still learning about the things.)
20160723 05:37:35< vultraz> JyrkiVesterinen: good point
20160723 05:38:15< JyrkiVesterinen> ancestral: To mention someone in IRC, you just write their nick and nothing else. You'd use the @ in some other places such as Twitter.
20160723 05:38:44< ancestral> I know, I’m [trying to] being silly. Or I’m just loopy
20160723 05:39:07< ancestral> (# obviously refers to channels in this environment)
20160723 05:39:33< vultraz> ok, I made the 'free to play' -> 'free' tweak
20160723 05:39:40< vultraz> Announcing
20160723 05:39:41< ancestral> \o/
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20160723 05:44:45< ancestral> janebot doing her thang on #wesnoth
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20160723 05:50:34< vultraz> ancestral: btw, small thing.. is there any way to make the trailer show a more attractive thumbnail?
20160723 05:50:43< vultraz> youtube picked a rather bland screen to show off :P
20160723 05:50:50< ancestral> It can be edited
20160723 05:50:53< ancestral> Maybe
20160723 05:50:54< shadowm> Yeah, you can pick a custom thumbnail.
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20160723 05:51:17< ancestral> Do you have access to the account now?
20160723 05:51:24< shadowm> I don't remember if that's restricted to channels meeting specific criteria though.
20160723 05:51:50< ancestral> (vultraz, PM me if needed)
20160723 05:51:51< shadowm> Ugh, yeah, it requires stuff.
20160723 05:52:06< vultraz> What are the requirements?
20160723 05:52:20< shadowm> A verified account.
20160723 05:52:30< vultraz> Oh deer.
20160723 05:52:32< shadowm> https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2498474?hl=en
20160723 05:53:09< shadowm> Or more precisely, https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/72431
20160723 05:54:16< shadowm> It's not a complicated procedure, actually: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/171664
20160723 05:55:00< shadowm> I mean, everyone has a mobile phone these days!
20160723 05:55:40< vultraz> Yes, but I don't have a number that works here
20160723 05:56:01< vultraz> Dave would have to do it
20160723 05:56:06< shadowm> Well I could use my own I guess -- or you can do that, okay
20160723 05:56:59< vultraz> I thought you said you didn't have a working phone
20160723 05:57:26< shadowm> I said I don't have a smartphone, which is a completely different thing.
20160723 05:58:42< ancestral> Whatever number you use, make sure it can receive SMS… ;-)
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20160723 06:01:38< vultraz> according to steam, we have 37 Yes votes and 27 No votes
20160723 06:01:41< vultraz> so far
20160723 06:04:23< vultraz> I'm interested to see what the general response from the forums is
20160723 06:05:58< shadowm> "whats a steam"
20160723 06:06:13< shadowm> You haven't posted the site news post.
20160723 06:06:24< vultraz> Oh
20160723 06:06:30< vultraz> I didn't make a dedicated one
20160723 06:06:38< vultraz> Plus I made the announcement global
20160723 06:06:40< vultraz> So is one needed?
20160723 06:06:59< vultraz> If you need a frontpage item just copy the announcement
20160723 06:07:14< shadowm> Just demote it to the News forum.
20160723 06:07:22< shadowm> Otherwise it doesn't appear in the index page.
20160723 06:07:51< shadowm> Or maybe keep it as you posted it and I'll just add it to the site home, but it'll still not appear in the forum index.
20160723 06:08:15< shadowm> Maybe you actually want people to have the ability to reply to the post directly. You can't do that in the News forum.
20160723 06:08:33< shadowm> (Which is why I usually make News forum entries point to some dedicated discussion topic. Also to keep feeds clean.)
20160723 06:08:46< shadowm> (GA follow ups pollute every single forum feed.)
20160723 06:09:51< shadowm> Make a decision, quickly, before I wander off.
20160723 06:15:16< ancestral> Now all we need is notch to retweet
20160723 06:15:41< shadowm> Home post up.
20160723 06:16:17< shadowm> ancestral: Why, did someone else famous RT already?
20160723 06:16:26< vultraz> shadowm: I'm unsure as to best practices so I'll leave it to you
20160723 06:17:30< ancestral> shadowm: I wish. Fri night is probably pretty dead for game promotion
20160723 06:17:44< shadowm> Do you want a topic where eople can comment on the announcement, vultraz?
20160723 06:17:50< vultraz> Yes
20160723 06:17:52< shadowm> It all hinges on that.
20160723 06:17:58< shadowm> Are you willing for it to be a separate topic?
20160723 06:18:31< vultraz> sure
20160723 06:18:51< shadowm> OK, can you write an opening post for it as well as edit the announcement?
20160723 06:19:26< shadowm> I'm withdrawing the GA to mods HQ.
20160723 06:20:00< shadowm> OK or I can quickly scribble down an opening post for the discussion thread.
20160723 06:20:24< shadowm> "We're now on Steam Greenlight. Discuss the [url=FOOBAR]announcement[/url] here."
20160723 06:20:53< vultraz> I'm doing that
20160723 06:20:56< vultraz> hang on
20160723 06:21:13< shadowm> Oh I was 25% done.
20160723 06:21:16< shadowm> OK, go ahead.
20160723 06:21:44< shadowm> Can you please make the subject "Official Steam Greenlight discussion thread" so we can hopefully divert people's attention there from the countless Greenlight threads that there have been in the past 5 years?
20160723 06:25:28< vultraz> ok, where should I put this
20160723 06:25:30< vultraz> in Announcements?
20160723 06:25:40< shadowm> Users'.
20160723 06:25:54< vultraz> Sticky?
20160723 06:26:02< shadowm> Up to you.
20160723 06:26:52< vultraz> https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44366
20160723 06:26:58< vultraz> Please restore the GA
20160723 06:27:15< shadowm> Ther eshouldn't be a need to remind people to keep it civil unless there's something seriously wrong with our community.
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20160723 06:27:39< vultraz> You never know. This could be a contentious topic.
20160723 06:29:45< shadowm> Well, if you take that position then you're basically leaving an open invitation for people to make it so but okay.
20160723 06:30:27< shadowm> OK hopefully I didn't smear your post too much with my addition at the bottom.
20160723 06:30:44< vultraz> It's fine
20160723 06:30:54< shadowm> Incidentally, freenode would insist that it's freenode, with a lowercase f.
20160723 06:31:05< shadowm> It's called stylization.
20160723 06:31:28< shadowm> That's why I already did that change myself.
20160723 06:31:52< vultraz> thanks
20160723 06:32:35< vultraz> I think everything;s in order
20160723 06:32:53< vultraz> Now we just wait :)
20160723 06:35:17< vultraz> This has been such a long time coming
20160723 06:35:33< vultraz> Good work, everyone 
20160723 06:47:26< ggeneral1> how many votes we need to pass thought steam greenlight?
20160723 06:49:33< JyrkiVesterinen> I think it's a thousand.
20160723 06:49:34< vultraz> There's no set number
20160723 06:49:44< vultraz> At least according to the FAQ
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20160723 07:00:31< shadowm> "I'm being asked if I would "buy" it. I know there's something you can set so that it instead asks us if we'd "play" it, I'm guessing it's tagging the game as free to play but I'm not 100% on that."
20160723 07:00:36< shadowm> vultraz: ?
20160723 07:09:38< ggeneral1> you didn't add tag "free-to-play"
20160723 07:10:15< ancestral> ggeneral1: Would that do it?
20160723 07:11:16< ggeneral1> and people may think than game will be not free
20160723 07:11:29< ggeneral1> and people may think that game will be not free
20160723 07:13:02< shadowm> It's not something I can check or change myself either, unfortunately.
20160723 07:13:46< vultraz> I'll add the tag
20160723 07:16:58< vultraz> Tagged as free to play
20160723 07:17:02< vultraz> now it says 'would you play'
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20160723 08:23:20< Kwandulin> So how many yes/no does it have now, vultraz?
20160723 08:24:19< vultraz> Kwandulin: 149 Yes, 53 No
20160723 08:24:25< Kwandulin> nice
20160723 08:24:28< vultraz> mhm
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20160723 10:13:45< wedge009> How many 'Yes' excluding devs? XD
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20160723 10:17:31< vultraz> wedge009: we have 282 as of a few minutes ago
20160723 10:17:54< wedge009> Wow, that's fast. Though I suppose if it's a new entry then it'll have more exposure.
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20160723 10:23:05< JyrkiVesterinen> We also have the advantage of being an existing community and already having an essentially finished game to show. We are much better off than all the indie developers out there.
20160723 10:23:37< vultraz> ^
20160723 10:33:25< ggeneral> vultraz: can you change chanel's topic by including number of votes yes/no?
20160723 10:33:49< vultraz> I could 
20160723 10:33:56< ggeneral> and update few times at day
20160723 10:39:31< wedge009> JyrkiVesterinen: That's true. I suppose that most Steam users wouldn't have heard of BfW though. Do people know how many open-source games there are on Steam?
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20160723 11:00:49< gfgtdf> i think we should make a rula that every entry in easycpoding must an associated bug entry in the bugtracker, Often the easycoding entries are not described enough and the missing enotry  in a bugtracker maes it impossible to discuss them
20160723 11:06:32-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.5 scheduled for 7/24 | Greenlight Votes: 382 Yes, 94 No | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
20160723 11:06:59< vultraz> A hundred more in less than an hour
20160723 11:07:42< vultraz> And we're 40% of the way to the top 100
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20160723 11:11:27< wedge009> vultraz: That's great! Which list are you looking at?
20160723 11:13:41< vultraz> the item stats
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20160723 11:50:09-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.5 scheduled for 7/24 | Greenlight Votes: 451 Yes, 106 No | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
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20160723 12:24:23-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.5 scheduled for 7/24 | Greenlight Votes: 508 Yes, 115 No | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
20160723 12:24:42< vultraz> 54% of the way to top 100
20160723 12:35:52< vultraz> heh, guy on r/Games said he saw a post on the forums that we were considering removing all campaigns besides HttT and making them addons :|
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20160723 12:36:01< vultraz> I have assured him this is not the case
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20160723 13:30:17-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.5 scheduled for 7/24 | Greenlight Votes: 615 Yes, 131 No | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
20160723 13:30:43< vultraz> 65%
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20160723 15:00:47-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.5 scheduled for 7/24 | Greenlight Votes: 792 Yes, 152 No | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
20160723 15:01:03< vultraz> 84% of the way to the top 100
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20160723 15:02:52< celticminstrel> Why are there so many no-votes... :(
20160723 15:03:25< vultraz> Dunno
20160723 15:03:30< vultraz> But that's only like 16%
20160723 15:05:30< vultraz> we're piling on the votes
20160723 15:05:39< vultraz> We should break the top 100 within two hours
20160723 15:05:45< JyrkiVesterinen> I don't get at all why there are no-votes. Who can it possibly hurt to have an open source game (one of Wesnoth's caliber, no less) in Steam?
20160723 15:07:21< celticminstrel> I suppose it could be people who simply aren't interested in the genre.
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20160723 15:27:58< celticminstrel> Just noticed this. https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=597856#p597856
20160723 15:28:05< celticminstrel> Seems like a pretty good explanation?
20160723 15:28:39< celticminstrel> (Though a 30% fizzle rate actually sounds pretty bad.)
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20160723 15:32:25< celticminstrel> Unrelatedly, I wonder if Khalifate should be moved properly into the default era for 1.14. I feel like unifying the defauly era might be better for Steam, but maybe it's not such a good idea due to balancing?
20160723 15:32:30< celticminstrel> ^default
20160723 15:33:03< celticminstrel> Actually, was balancing even the reason it was separated in the first place?
20160723 15:35:05< celticminstrel> Also also! The panning over campaign images in the trailer seems like something that it would be cool to actually have in the game. Is that currently possible within the storyscreen framework?
20160723 15:36:14< zookeeper> no, can't pan
20160723 15:39:48< zookeeper> and khalifate wasn't originally immediately in default era partly due to balancing of course, but partly because they simply were not finished otherwise (missing unit descriptions and that sort of thing).
20160723 15:39:58< zookeeper> it looks like they apparently all have descriptions now, though.
20160723 15:40:18< celticminstrel> I see.
20160723 15:40:33< zookeeper> and of course the backstory aspect was completely missing back then
20160723 15:40:44< zookeeper> and still is in any official capacity :p
20160723 15:43:03< celticminstrel> I think this guy is wrong on the question of Mac support. https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=597337#p597337
20160723 15:43:27< celticminstrel> Since the Wesnoth app bundles those dependencies within the app package.
20160723 15:44:40< celticminstrel> (I think the people saying achievements and trading cards are impossible are also lacking in imagination.)
20160723 15:44:58< celticminstrel> (Though it's possible they're right.)
20160723 15:51:31-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.5 scheduled for 7/24 | Greenlight Votes: 868 Yes, 163 No | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
20160723 15:51:45< vultraz> 92%
20160723 15:53:45< JyrkiVesterinen> Almost in the top 100. Nice. :)
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20160723 16:29:41< gfgtdf> Aginor, celticminstrel: cna we make https://gna.org/bugs/?18868 as fixed ?
20160723 16:30:26< vultraz> 100%!
20160723 16:30:43-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.5 scheduled for 7/24 | Greenlight Votes: 944 Yes, 173 No | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
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20160723 16:33:06< celmin> gfgtdf: Shouldn't we ask Aginor too?
20160723 16:33:23< gfgtdf> mark*
20160723 16:33:32< celmin> Ack, I misread, I thought you said vultraz not Aginor 
20160723 16:33:35< celmin> Sorry.
20160723 16:33:42< celmin> I don't know if we should mark it fixed.
20160723 16:34:06< gfgtdf> celmin: marked as ready for test for now
20160723 16:39:22< gfgtdf> shadowm: are you still intend to fix https://gna.org/?22570 and https://gna.org/?21971 ?
20160723 16:39:55< celmin> Those links don't work.
20160723 16:40:45< gfgtdf> shadowm: are you still intend to fix https://gna.org/bugs/?22570 and https://gna.org/bugs/?21971 ?
20160723 16:41:47< gfgtdf> Aginor: is https://gna.org/bugs/?20746 fixed in master ?
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20160723 16:43:41< vultraz> gfgtdf: https://gna.org/bugs/?22570 would be fixed by my gui2 addons manager
20160723 16:43:54< celmin> I think I remember getting that bug, but it was quite awhile ago.
20160723 16:44:54< shadowm> gfgtdf: No, I am not still intent on fixing either.
20160723 16:48:17< gfgtdf> vultraz: what cuurrently stopping your addosn mamager?
20160723 16:50:07< gfgtdf> vultraz: was https://gna.org/bugs/?24667 fixed by the renderpat h thing ?
20160723 16:51:15< vultraz> gfgtdf: needs to be made functional
20160723 16:51:31< vultraz> gfgtdf: dunno
20160723 16:52:10< celmin> If I recall, what vultraz's addons manager needs is the backend, right?
20160723 16:52:16< vultraz> yes
20160723 16:52:22< celmin> In theory that could probably be transferred from the GUI1 version, right?
20160723 16:53:03< vultraz> dunno
20160723 16:53:38< gfgtdf> celmin: i'd say it could
20160723 16:53:45< vultraz> I wonder what happens now that it says we're 100% of the way to the top 100
20160723 16:54:29< celmin> Oh, it gave you that percentage somewhere?
20160723 16:56:24< vultraz> yes
20160723 16:56:35< Kwandulin> It's a . . . short way to the top if you wanna rock and roll
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20160723 18:58:37< celmin> So vultraz, Aginor, others - what's the status for the 1.13.5 release?
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20160723 22:07:03-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.5 scheduled for 7/24 | Greenlight Votes: 1378 Yes, 267 No | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
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20160723 22:07:28< vultraz> Currently ranked #69
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20160723 22:08:19< celmin> So what's the status for the 1.13.5 release?
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20160723 22:09:45< vultraz> celmin: miiight have to push it back a few days
20160723 22:09:51< celmin> Why?
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20160723 22:10:18< vultraz> because that pesky icon overlays bug in-game is still around
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20160723 22:10:34< celmin> What?
20160723 22:11:07< vultraz> if you go in-game, some of the theme icons don't draw until you do something like select a unit or open a menu
20160723 22:11:21< vultraz> and then disappear again if you cease doing that action
20160723 22:23:50< vultraz> It's not exactly a blocker but it's quite visible
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20160723 22:30:05< vultraz> also, I'm still waiting for ancestral's report on which macOS bugs in the RN are already fixed
20160723 22:30:32< celmin> There are a lot of changes in this release...
20160723 22:31:03< celmin> Oh right, I still have a couple of things to add to the changelog, too.
20160723 22:31:39< vultraz> What does the number of changes have to do with that?
20160723 22:32:37< celmin> The two lines have nothing to do with each other except that the first made me remember the second… I think.
20160723 22:33:16< vultraz> Ah
20160723 22:33:22< vultraz> Well, you still have time
20160723 22:33:29< vultraz> It's not yet the 24th for the rest of you
20160723 22:34:51< celmin> A minute ago you said it might be delayed again, and now you're implying it won't be.
20160723 22:35:13< vultraz> Might
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20160723 22:45:59< irker511> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 9f6d9b45cbc0 / data/gui/widget/panel_title_screen.cfg: Use darker borders on titlescreen panels https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9f6d9b45cbc041e546ddcb55b3ed088fe88cd2bd
20160723 22:48:58< irker511> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master d90f1eae7b59 / data/gui/window/lua_interpreter.cfg: tlua_interpreter: fixed placement of Clear button https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d90f1eae7b59342521ae482d703d7cb273e6d52b
20160723 22:49:01< vultraz> celmin: ^ one line change
20160723 22:49:25< celmin> I was focusing more on the functionality than the presentation.
20160723 22:49:39< vultraz> you asked me to fix the placement
20160723 22:49:43< celmin> I know.
20160723 22:56:53< irker511> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master a5130a4c3600 / data/themes/ (default.cfg editor.cfg): Made sure menu button are flush with window border https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a5130a4c360050e7cd667785c51b280120156f9d
20160723 23:00:16< irker511> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 7a859a2ece61 / data/themes/default.cfg: Fixup a5130a4c3600 (forgot to include small resolution buttons) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7a859a2ece6100d55f85d6206e044d7b6dbdebf4
20160723 23:05:53< vultraz> celmin: so, looking at the code (in general), I'm seeing a lot of cases of boost::shared_ptr... any reason we never converted that to std:: en masse?
20160723 23:08:11< celmin> No particular reason, but don't go doing it right before a release.
20160723 23:08:19< celmin> (At least, I don't remember any particular reason.)
20160723 23:08:47< vultraz> Yeah, I won't, I was just reminded by spixi's PR
20160723 23:09:08< vultraz> after the release, probably
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