--- Log opened Sat Jul 23 00:00:38 2016 20160723 00:01:00-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20160723 00:13:34-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20160723 00:24:02-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 00:26:32-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 01:29:30-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@2001:44b8:254:3200:b94f:80d9:c9e7:b72a] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 02:44:01-!- RatArmy [~RatArmy@om126229088089.12.openmobile.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 02:50:28-!- ArneBab [~quassel@55d47d76.access.ecotel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 02:53:03-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160723 02:54:27-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@55d4490e.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160723 02:58:01-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 03:54:57-!- salluc69_ [~salluc69@95.236.195.163] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 20160723 03:55:16-!- salluc69 [~salluc69@95.236.195.163] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 04:17:51-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20160723 04:18:20-!- Ravana_ [~Ravana@unaffiliated/ravana/x-2327071] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 04:23:05-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20160723 04:24:33-!- RatArmy [~RatArmy@om126229088089.12.openmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160723 04:44:13-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD036012038208.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20160723 04:49:49-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-4-224-82.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 04:58:28-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 05:01:06-!- hk238 [~kvirc@t224.ip7.netikka.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 05:04:25-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20160723 05:07:43-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20160723 05:12:03-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6062A6C9B62D4D2B591B93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 05:16:02-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-4-224-82.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20160723 05:19:57-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-4-224-82.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 05:23:42-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20160723 05:28:16-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 05:40:40-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD036012034186.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 05:40:49< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) We're on Steam Greenlight! Give us a vote here! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=729138129 #gamedev [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/756725729027510272 ] 20160723 05:43:41< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) @kokorogensou It will be 100% free [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/756726454025461760 ] 20160723 05:43:44< janebot> wesnoth: The Battle for Wesnoth now on Steam Greenlight! (by /u/mproud) https://redd.it/4u6z3b 20160723 05:47:30< ancestral> Hacker News: The Battle for Wesnoth now on Steam Greenlight [ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12148512 ] 20160723 05:47:48 * ancestral goes beep bop boop 20160723 05:48:02< vultraz> thanks for those posts :D 20160723 05:50:15< ancestral> Also posted here: https://redd.it/4u6zod 20160723 05:51:05< vultraz> sweet! 20160723 05:57:14< ancestral> Fake Hero Almaz 2 minutes ago “upvoted immediately <3 ya'll steamfolks are in for a treat!” 20160723 05:58:40< vultraz> ah, I see that now 20160723 05:59:53-!- ggeneral1 [~anton@nat58.opti.net.ua] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 06:00:00< shadowm> "Steamfolks" sounds like what you'd call some kind of water spirit found in oases. 20160723 06:00:17< vultraz> inb4 new Ageless Era faction 20160723 07:18:53< ancestral> Anyone else have a Hacker News account? 20160723 07:19:23< ancestral> a +1 on the thread might put us on the front page 20160723 07:21:38-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6062A6C9B62D4D2B591B93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160723 07:34:25-!- kalfat [~kalfat@pc7-236.btk.net.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 07:38:36-!- ggeneral1 [~anton@nat58.opti.net.ua] has left #wesnoth [] 20160723 07:47:45-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 07:48:23-!- RatArmy [~RatArmy@om126229088089.12.openmobile.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 07:54:01-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 07:55:07-!- hk238 [~kvirc@t224.ip7.netikka.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20160723 07:57:52-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 08:11:46-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ChipmunkV] 20160723 08:16:29< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) 14% of the way to the Top 100 on Greenlight already P_P [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/756764910554456064 ] 20160723 08:17:45-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6062A6397047DD3F4FD14F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 08:26:55-!- irco [~irco@HSI-KBW-078-042-015-165.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 08:29:07-!- ggeneral [~anton@nat58.opti.net.ua] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 08:29:22-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-4-224-82.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20160723 08:31:30-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F6062A6397047DD3F4FD14F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160723 08:33:32-!- ggeneral [~anton@nat58.opti.net.ua] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160723 08:42:33-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 08:49:48-!- ggeneral [~anton@nat58.opti.net.ua] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 08:51:13-!- ggeneral [~anton@nat58.opti.net.ua] has quit [Client Quit] 20160723 08:51:48-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@nat58.opti.net.ua] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 09:02:09-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@nat58.opti.net.ua] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160723 09:05:03-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160723 09:11:21-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@nat58.opti.net.ua] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 10:04:45-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20160723 10:05:17-!- hk238 [~kvirc@t224.ip7.netikka.fi] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 10:52:51-!- _iwc [~iwc@static.184.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160723 11:05:11-!- _iwc [~iwc@static.184.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 11:43:57-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@nat58.opti.net.ua] has left #wesnoth [] 20160723 12:02:13-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 12:25:04< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) 54% of the way to the Greenlight Top 100! [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/756827468078518272 ] 20160723 13:07:24-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 13:07:25-!- RatArmy [~RatArmy@om126229088089.12.openmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20160723 13:33:59-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 13:35:48-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc36896.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160723 13:38:15-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD036012034186.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20160723 13:39:25-!- TheJJ [~rofl@ipbcc36896.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 13:40:38< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) @irxson we aren't planning either right now but that could change in the future :) [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/756846482871816192 ] 20160723 13:47:00-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD036012034186.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 14:08:37-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@nat58.opti.net.ua] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 14:37:11-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@2001:44b8:254:3200:b94f:80d9:c9e7:b72a] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20160723 14:39:00-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@nat58.opti.net.ua] has left #wesnoth [] 20160723 15:02:08-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ChipmunkV] 20160723 15:10:42-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 15:57:27-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20160723 16:01:29-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 16:42:02-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F60624D8C44F4450173589A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 17:38:21-!- claymore2 [~hexchat@host86-166-93-156.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 18:08:19-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 18:08:53-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@89-139-211-170.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 18:27:18-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@37.73.245.138] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 18:28:43-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@37.73.245.138] has quit [Client Quit] 20160723 18:29:12-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@37.73.245.138] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 18:29:45-!- hk238 [~kvirc@t224.ip7.netikka.fi] has quit [Quit: http://www.kvirc.net/ 4.9.1 Aria] 20160723 18:36:53< DeFender1031> so... releasing on steam was the big announcement? 20160723 18:53:15-!- ggeneral [~ggeneral@37.73.245.138] has quit [] 20160723 19:02:26-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F60624D8C44F4450173589A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160723 19:03:13-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20160723 19:06:14-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20160723 19:13:03-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 19:41:37-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160723 19:41:43-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 19:42:02< celticminstrel> DeFender1031: Yeah. Though going on greenlight isn't quite the same as releasing. 20160723 19:42:35< DeFender1031> i don't know much about this stuff 20160723 19:42:44< DeFender1031> what's the difference? 20160723 19:42:49-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 19:42:57< DeFender1031> Also, I assumed the announcement would be steam-related. 20160723 19:43:06< DeFender1031> Wasn't exactly a surprise or anything 20160723 19:43:20< celmin> Greenlight is a step towards releasing, but not a guarantee that it will be released. 20160723 19:43:37< celmin> Though given how many votes it got, I think it's unlikely that it would fail the greenlight stage. 20160723 19:43:44< DeFender1031> ah 20160723 19:44:54-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 20:15:59-!- kalfat [~kalfat@pc7-236.btk.net.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20160723 20:19:30-!- claymore2 [~hexchat@host86-166-93-156.range86-166.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20160723 20:37:33-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5B15DCFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 20:38:51-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 21:14:48-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160723 21:17:24-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160723 21:17:55-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 21:20:50-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 21:42:12-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160723 22:07:55-!- trewe [~trewe@2001:8a0:d101:3801:a23c:e70e:3e7f:33eb] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 22:08:34-!- trewe [~trewe@2001:8a0:d101:3801:a23c:e70e:3e7f:33eb] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20160723 22:08:38< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) We've reached #69 on Steam Greenlight. Keep it up! :D [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/756974329070399488 ] 20160723 22:09:03-!- trewe [~trewe@2001:8a0:d101:3801:a23c:e70e:3e7f:33eb] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 22:09:55-!- trewe [~trewe@2001:8a0:d101:3801:a23c:e70e:3e7f:33eb] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 20160723 22:10:21-!- trewe [~trewe@2001:8a0:d101:3801:a23c:e70e:3e7f:33eb] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 22:24:42-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 22:43:43-!- can-ned_food [~me@dynamic-acs-24-154-141-130.zoominternet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 22:44:52< can-ned_food> is it known that 1.12 does not tolerate multi-line recruit= lists in the [multiplayer][side] elements? 20160723 22:45:31< celmin> It doesn't make sense to have a multiline recruit list... 20160723 22:45:51< celmin> If you want to split the list up so that it spans multiple lines, it might work to end each line with + 20160723 22:46:06< celmin> That'll definitely work if you use quotes, but I think it would work without them too. 20160723 22:46:39< can-ned_food> of course. but i meant that 1.10 allowed me to use quotes, but in 1.12 that caused problems with my scenario. 20160723 22:46:45< celmin> Hmm. 20160723 22:46:55< celmin> That sounds odd. 20160723 22:47:16< can-ned_food> also, sorry to ask, but is there a bug tracker? 20160723 22:47:20< celmin> There is. 20160723 22:47:42< can-ned_food> yup, there it is. 20160723 22:47:46< celmin> http://bugs.wesnoth.org/ 20160723 22:47:56< celmin> Oh you found it, okay. 20160723 22:48:23< can-ned_food> had to look under the Support header, tee hee 20160723 22:51:31< can-ned_food> i didn't know about using a + though, thanks 20160723 22:51:42< celmin> Oh. 20160723 22:51:50< celmin> You just used quotes at the beginning and end? 20160723 22:52:15< celmin> That might still qualify as a bug though... 20160723 22:52:21< can-ned_food> yes. i'll try my scenario with that other format to see if it changes. 20160723 22:52:34-!- irco [~irco@HSI-KBW-078-042-015-165.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160723 22:52:48< can-ned_food> i don't know much of the syntax yet. 20160723 22:53:13< celmin> The difference is that if you put quotes around the whole thing, the newline characters are passed to the engine, but if you use "…" + "…" only quoted parts are passed to the engine (concatenated together). 20160723 22:54:01< can-ned_food> makes sense. 20160723 22:54:44< celmin> … + … without quotes should also have the same effect, but it might pass your indentation on subsequent lines to the engine. 20160723 22:55:50< zookeeper> i seriously doubt there's any difference in how 1.10 and 1.12 treat quotes and concatenation and all that. 20160723 23:00:19< celmin> Yeah. 20160723 23:00:24< can-ned_food> the indentation doesn't cause any problems, i just checked. and you are saying the bug might be somewhere else? based on the symptoms i've seen, i agree. 20160723 23:00:40< celmin> This could result from a change in the behaviour of the function that splits strings on commas. 20160723 23:01:02< celmin> For example, if it used to strip out newlines around the commas but now only strips tabs and spaces. 20160723 23:01:16< celmin> I don't know if that's the cause; it's entirely hypothetical. 20160723 23:02:20< can-ned_food> it has no problems parsing the list, but when it stores the values they corrupt something somewhere. i'll post my info on the forum until people can pinpoint the bug. 20160723 23:02:36< celmin> Hmm, that sounds kinda bad? 20160723 23:03:33< can-ned_food> well it messes up my era somewhat. it seems to be rather localized, though, as there's no evidence of severe instability. 20160723 23:10:39-!- prophile [~alynn@oftn/oswg-member/prophile] has quit [Quit: The Game] 20160723 23:11:38< celmin> If you post either on the forum or gna, please link here. 20160723 23:30:12-!- RatArmy [~RatArmy@om126229088089.12.openmobile.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20160723 23:31:20-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@d0017-2-88-172-31-68.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ChipmunkV] 20160723 23:34:45-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20160723 23:39:04< can-ned_food> okay, here's the post: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=44372&p=599109 20160723 23:40:52-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5B15DCFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20160723 23:42:35< can-ned_food> oh, i just thought of some more info i could add 20160723 23:42:46< can-ned_food> i'm in top form today --- Log closed Sun Jul 24 00:00:34 2016