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(1) unit.gender (2) unit.race (3) unit.alignment (4) attack.range (5) attack.type 20160916 13:19:47-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C71964C4328AF7F47B233.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160916 13:23:53-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160916 13:31:18< vultraz> not sure.. hm.. 20160916 13:42:18< DeFender1031> aeth, your add on displays nearly everything somewhere in it... would you happen to know? 20160916 13:45:04< celticminstrel> 4/5 might be obtainable somehow from wesnoth.game_config. 20160916 13:45:18< celticminstrel> Since their translations are stored in the [language] tag. 20160916 13:45:44< celticminstrel> Are 1/3 stored there too? Not sure. 20160916 13:46:07< celticminstrel> 2 should in theory be obtainable from somewhere, but I'm not sure if it's exposed to Lua. 20160916 13:46:29< celticminstrel> Something like... wesnoth.races..something? 20160916 13:46:51< celticminstrel> name maybe? 20160916 13:53:40< DeFender1031> ah, yes, there is wesnoth.races 20160916 13:54:03< DeFender1031> and i'll check out game config for the others... gimme a sec. 20160916 13:55:13< DeFender1031> celticminstrel, where in game_config would I find those? 20160916 13:56:07< celticminstrel> If it exists... 20160916 13:56:21< celticminstrel> helper.get_child(wesnoth.game_config, "languages").whatever 20160916 13:56:29< celticminstrel> I forget the exact keys. 20160916 13:56:54< celticminstrel> It's documented on the wiki, possibly in LanguageWML or something. 20160916 13:57:57< DeFender1031> wait... game_config is the full top-level WML? I thought it was just a bunch of settings 20160916 14:01:33< DeFender1031> /usr/share/games/wesnoth/1.12/data/lua/helper.lua:43: attempt to get length of local 'cfg' (a userdata value) 20160916 14:01:51< DeFender1031> doesn't look like game_config is wml 20160916 14:09:40< celticminstrel> Ah. 20160916 14:09:43< celticminstrel> I wasn't sure. 20160916 14:10:00< celticminstrel> I did say "if it exists". 20160916 14:10:36< celticminstrel> I suppose you could also try wesnoth.game_config.language, but I kinda doubt that would exist either. 20160916 14:11:45-!- Sonderblade [~Sonderbla@h-52-183.a157.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20160916 14:25:16-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C719635F9BE7F1C95FBCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 14:26:08-!- Sonderblade [~Sonderbla@h-52-183.a157.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 14:37:48-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@2001:44b8:254:3200:a5ec:2c73:d101:fb11] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20160916 14:39:09< DeFender1031> well, whether or not this turns out to in fact be possible, i'm really starting to feel like I ought to just jump ship on 1.12, switch to developing my add-on on 1.13, and simultaneously actually start working on wenosth itself and submitting PRs to add the additional features that are missing to do the things i'm trying to do. 20160916 14:49:15< celticminstrel> You don't have as much of an audience on 1.13... if that's not a problem (eg because the addon isn't complete enough to have an audience anyway) and won't be for about the next 6 months, that might actually be a good idea. 20160916 14:56:03< DeFender1031> yeah, it's probably not an issue. 20160916 14:57:02< DeFender1031> I'm just getting sick of things that are either available but not on 1.12, or unavailable and a request won't help because even if it were, it wouldn't be available on 1.12 anyway 20160916 14:57:58< DeFender1031> if by some miracle i make vast progress such that i'm ready to release and 1.14 is nowhere close, i can figure out how to backport then, but i'm sick of my hands being tied. 20160916 14:58:47-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20160916 14:59:07< DeFender1031> anyway, gotta go for now. catch y'all tomorrow. 20160916 14:59:10-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@46-116-114-128.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Quit: I'm not back now.] 20160916 15:10:54-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160916 15:16:49-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 15:23:54-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 15:24:41-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160916 15:32:31-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 15:47:11-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-189-115.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 17:03:35-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@static-89-94-113-91.axione.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 17:12:12-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C719635F9BE7F1C95FBCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160916 17:22:53-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-189-115.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20160916 17:28:56-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C7196B062BF22006E7805.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 17:40:18-!- Kranix [~magnus@185.118.249.61] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 17:40:27< aeth> Switching to the dev version is what killed my add-on for a few years. No audience, but it heavily relied on dev version features. 20160916 17:42:47< aeth> If possible, you can use this in Lua to develop for both versions at once: if wesnoth.compare_versions(wesnoth.game_config.version, ">=", "1.13.foo") then 20160916 17:43:02-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160916 17:43:12-!- wario_ [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 17:48:05-!- hk238 [~kvirc@unaffiliated/hk238] has quit [Quit: http://www.kvirc.net/ 4.9.2 Aria] 20160916 17:49:01-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20160916 18:09:16-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 18:15:51-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C7196B062BF22006E7805.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160916 18:31:13-!- bumba [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 18:32:02-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20160916 18:32:07-!- bumba is now known as bumbadadabum 20160916 18:39:32-!- Necrosporus_ [~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 18:43:04-!- Necrosporus [~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20160916 18:55:14-!- Jetrel [~Jetrel@2001:558:6014:1e:2422:435:dd84:bbf3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20160916 18:56:18-!- Jetrel [~Jetrel@2001:558:6014:1e:2422:435:dd84:bbf3] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 19:12:23-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 19:43:49-!- prkc [~prkc@46.166.190.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20160916 19:44:16-!- prkc [~prkc@46.166.138.130] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 19:51:00-!- _iwc [~iwc@static.184.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 21:01:50-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20160916 21:07:18-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 21:15:46-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-189-115.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 21:17:19-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160916 21:33:11-!- Kranix [~magnus@185.118.249.61] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20160916 21:51:35-!- Appleman1234_ [~Appleman1@KD119104048120.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20160916 21:52:03-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD119104049219.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20160916 21:52:12-!- Appleman1234_ is now known as Appleman1234 20160916 22:39:03-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20160916 22:43:24-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@static-89-94-113-91.axione.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: ChipmunkV] 20160916 22:52:09-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-189-115.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20160916 23:04:27-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160916 23:37:33-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20160916 23:57:04-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! 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