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20160921 18:08:13-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160921 18:13:39-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20160921 18:15:30-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 18:53:36-!- RevReese [RevReese@cpc72389-sotn14-2-0-cust324.15-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20160921 18:57:55< aeth> wow, I've almost run out of map area, and then I'll just have to go over the lower detailed parts with more detail 20160921 18:58:13< aeth> only took a year of small changes almost every day to fill the map 20160921 19:07:00-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@static-89-94-113-91.axione.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 19:07:54-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20160921 19:08:18-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 19:35:26< DeFender> aeth, i remain in awe of your dedication 20160921 19:57:30-!- TC02 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20160921 20:04:10-!- Kranix [~magnus@2a05:f6c2:5085:0:ac02:d83b:5dd:5ca4] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 20:05:59-!- TC02 [~quassel@venus.arosser.com] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 20:49:35< vultraz> 400 hexs, is it? 20160921 20:51:43< DeFender> vultraz, more like 80,000 20160921 20:51:55< vultraz> width, i mean 20160921 20:52:03< DeFender> 200x400 20160921 20:52:08< DeFender> IIRC 20160921 20:52:10< vultraz> interesting 20160921 20:52:16< vultraz> shouldn't take a year to draw 20160921 20:52:29< vultraz> unless you weren't just drawing a landscape 20160921 20:52:57< DeFender> nah, aeth was adding features and unit spawns and stuff too 20160921 20:54:27-!- Samual [~Samual@xonotic/core-team/Samual] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 20:56:57< aeth> DeFender: 400x200, iirc. x, y 20160921 20:57:17< aeth> although I wouldn't be surprised if the convention is y x x even though it's (x, y) in coordinates 20160921 20:57:18< DeFender> ah, right. 20160921 20:57:27< aeth> because sometimes things are backwards for no good reason. I think matrices are 20160921 20:57:36< aeth> (although they use i, j) 20160921 20:57:50< DeFender> html tables are :P 20160921 20:57:59< aeth> vultraz: the landscape was the easy part, probably about two weeks combined, could've been done in 1-2 weekends if I spent more time at once 20160921 20:58:14< aeth> vultraz: the hard part is the cave and indoor parts, in part because the Wesnoth engine just isn't that good at cave and especially not indoor 20160921 20:58:35< aeth> not enough eyecandy and variety so it takes quite a bit of work to make each cave/indoor area interesting and different 20160921 20:58:51< aeth> and it's only about 1/4 cave+indoor, maybe 1/3 20160921 20:59:04< aeth> Another thing that does take some time is touching up the outdoor areas. 20160921 20:59:09< vultraz> true 20160921 20:59:11< vultraz> but a year? 20160921 20:59:32< aeth> let's say on average 20-30 min, probably less 20160921 21:00:00< aeth> 20 * 365 minutes... 7300... divide by 60 and get 121.66 hours 20160921 21:00:02< aeth> sounds about right 20160921 21:00:14< aeth> not every day is the map itself, some are spawns, lua, etc 20160921 21:00:56< aeth> although it's probably closer to 150 because there are a few periods of extreme activity in there, but that's mostly Lua. 20160921 21:04:10< aeth> Although it's hard to measure the actual time because it's so variable. Sometimes it was just a quick 5 minute addition to keep the github streak alive back when github had streaks and I cared for that stuff (I let it lapse this July) 20160921 21:04:19< aeth> And sometimes it was "lose an unspecified amount of time" 20160921 21:05:50-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20160921 21:20:11-!- PjotrOrial [~quassel@unaffiliated/pjotrorial] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20160921 21:27:53-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@static-89-94-113-91.axione.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: ChipmunkV] 20160921 22:11:14-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20160921 22:37:06-!- Kranix [~magnus@2a05:f6c2:5085:0:ac02:d83b:5dd:5ca4] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20160921 22:52:00-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20160921 23:29:54-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20160921 23:30:00-!- janebot_ [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 23:30:02-!- janebot_ is now known as janebot 20160921 23:41:53-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20160921 23:41:55-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 23:42:23-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20160921 23:55:19-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Sep 22 00:00:32 2016