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20161006 11:52:37< Wladek> when new version?
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20161006 15:08:33< zookeeper> horseman, why do you miss twice when you have 80% CtH -.-
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20161006 15:29:39< DeFender1031> zookeeper, randomness sometimes does that.
20161006 15:30:09< DeFender1031> What I want to kow is why [store_unit] requires a [filter] tag rather than being a SUF itself.
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20161006 15:40:12< zookeeper> technically, i suppose it wouldn't have been necessary
20161006 15:41:36< Ravana_> has anything happened with the idea of allowing [filter][filter][/filter][/filter]?
20161006 15:47:26< zookeeper> not that i've heard
20161006 16:01:03< DeFender1031> Ravana_, how is that meaningful?
20161006 16:01:56< Ravana_> that would always allow to use [filter] and not have to remember if tag also accepts without
20161006 16:02:47< DeFender1031> Two issues with that. 1. For a location filter, a nested filter means unit filter. 2. the point is to allow not using the tag where it's unnecessary, not encourage using it where it's not.
20161006 16:04:35< zookeeper> 1 isn't an issue
20161006 16:04:59< zookeeper> anyway, it might be useful in some rare situations involving [insert_tag] or somesuch
20161006 16:06:24< zookeeper> or if you think 1 would be an issue, please give an example because i can't think of any
20161006 16:08:19< DeFender1031> zookeeper, how would 1 not be an issue? Wouldn't [filter] then have two possible meanings?
20161006 16:09:05< zookeeper> the proposal is to make [filter] a valid SUF subtag. that wouldn't affect SLF in any way
20161006 16:09:11< DeFender1031> ah
20161006 16:09:22< DeFender1031> didn't realize the idea was limited to SUF
20161006 16:09:33< DeFender1031> sounded like it'd apply to all filter types.
20161006 16:09:46< zookeeper> just SUF, as i recall it
20161006 16:10:02< DeFender1031> also, this essentially just means treating a [filter] inside SUF like [and].
20161006 16:17:59< zookeeper> hmh, i'm not sure if it'd be completely the same as [and]
20161006 16:18:02< zookeeper> it might be, i can't say
20161006 16:20:19< DeFender1031> i can't imagine how it would differ
20161006 16:20:40< DeFender1031> and if that's the case, just add [filter] as an alias for [and] and it's done.
20161006 16:21:05< zookeeper> DeFender1031, the difference would come from the evaluation order i'd think
20161006 16:21:28< zookeeper> like if you do some radius stuff for example
20161006 16:21:51 * zookeeper shrugs
20161006 16:22:46< DeFender1031> ah, you're saying that if there's stuff both inside and outside the [filter] tag, it'd treat it as merged, rather than a separate set of criteria
20161006 16:22:59< DeFender1031> i'm not sure that's more intuitive than just making it like [and] TBH
20161006 16:23:25< DeFender1031> not to mention that if someone is combining stuff inside and outside a filter, they're doing something wacky anyway...
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