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20161013 07:48:14< Zireael> looking at some wesnoth gameplay and loving the look
20161013 07:48:23< Zireael> I will probably download the game
20161013 07:49:13< Zireael> but I have a related question - I am making a game under GPL, and Wesnoth's art assets are GPL, that means I can use them, right? I'd like to credit the original authors, do I just say 'contributors to Battle of Wesnoth' or does anyone know the exact names?
20161013 07:55:09< Zireael> anyone here?
20161013 07:59:54< Rhonda> Hey. :)
20161013 08:00:37< Rhonda> Yes, you can reuse the assets of wesnoth as per GPL.
20161013 08:00:52< Zireael> great, thanks
20161013 08:01:15< Zireael> do you know the contributor names? I like to be cool and credit them by name, and not just as a nebulous group
20161013 08:01:26< Rhonda> There is the https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Credits#Artwork_and_Graphics page, but I'm unsure if there is specificly listed who worked on what file.
20161013 08:01:54< Rhonda> … given the size and the age of the project it's a quite exhaustive list.
20161013 08:01:57< Zireael> thanks, will take a look
20161013 08:04:18< Rhonda> Guess you can't even really tell from an svn log on the files, but you can try that.  I think not everyone has commit access, and am unsure if people always thinks of putting the author's name into the commit message.
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20161013 08:05:14< Rhonda> … speaking of, should update my name there I notice.  Thanks for the indirect prod, Zireael :)
20161013 08:05:30< celmin|sleep> (I think most people do put the author's name in the commit message, but yeah, not sure if that's always done.)
20161013 08:06:49< Zireael> the list in the page should be enough. 'Credits: Contributors to Battle of Wesnoth, including x,y,z and a,b,c'. I'm gonna use unit sprites and probably nothing else - I'm rolling square tiles, not hexes
20161013 08:08:06< Rhonda> source is now hosted on github, right?
20161013 08:08:30< Rhonda> Darn, need to get my 2factor authentication working again for github …
20161013 08:09:05< Zireael> I never turned that on :P too much hassle. getting SHA and whatever to work for gitlab was a major annoyance I'd rather not repeat
20161013 08:09:55< Rhonda> Ah, it works to send a text message to my phone.  :)
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20161013 08:42:55< chungy> Hey all. Is the soundtrack for Wesnoth available in FLAC (or just lossless at all)?
20161013 08:49:11< zookeeper> not that i recall
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20161013 12:14:59< Zireael> I was looking at the unit sprites in the forum, and noticed most of them follow the 'official' style. is there anywhere I can find out what are the features of this style? some units look a bit... 'anime' to me (esp. elves). is this a matter of the game's general art style?
20161013 12:21:25< zookeeper> might be some wiki pages about it in the create section, just follow the various art-related links there. or maybe there isn't, i don't recall. they'd be pretty old, although the same principles would still apply.
20161013 12:26:44< Zireael> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Creating_a_scratch_built_sprite this used to have reference pictures, but they don't show up, so I can't tell what the author meant in the Anatomy section
20161013 12:27:25< Zireael> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Creating_Unit_Art only says feet should be roughly 55 pixels from top of the canvas
20161013 12:27:35< Zireael> nothing on proportions/style
20161013 12:30:15< Zireael> trying to figure out what's that's bugging me... compare https://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=72012 to http://s1.zrzut.pl/Dg4oobg.png, the elves bug me, the latter don't, even the one guy who doesn't have the head covered
20161013 12:31:26< Zireael> and just for comparison's sake, an (admittedly edited) BG sprite http://www.sentrizeal.com/images/media/femGladSite.png
20161013 12:41:44< zookeeper> i suggest just studying the core elf/dwarf/human/orc/etc sprites to get a feel for what the core style is.
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20161013 16:10:07< DeFender1031> I know that wesnoth's in-battle scale is loosely-defined by design, but is there any information on the scale of the world map? For example, if I asked the distance between Tath and Soradoc, or how long it would take to travel between them, would an answer exist?
20161013 16:19:50< celticminstrel> Probably?
20161013 16:36:04< zookeeper> some answer exist in travel times mentioned in story text and such
20161013 16:36:13< zookeeper> not that i recall them
20161013 16:37:45< DeFender1031> There's no simple "the map's scale is 1KM per every 10 pixels" somewhere?
20161013 16:39:38< DeFender1031> Ah, I guess there wouldn't be because there are a bunch of maps on varying scales.
20161013 16:40:40< DeFender1031> Though I might have expected one to exist for the main map at least.
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20161013 17:16:29< zookeeper> DeFender1031, a keen observer can note that the maps are of varying scales but the red-and-white markers at the edges are scaled accordingly :>
20161013 17:17:00< zookeeper> (well, they're not anywhere near pixel-perfect exact, but more or less appropriately scaled)
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20161013 17:20:06< DeFender1031> zookeeper, i never noticed that! Awesome! (So... what's the actual distance on one of those segments?)
20161013 17:25:10< zookeeper> well that is the question
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20161013 17:31:25< zookeeper> there was a forum thread about the scale somewhat recently, i think
20161013 17:31:32< zookeeper> recently as in "probably this year"
20161013 17:32:21< zookeeper> whatever conclusions one might be able to draw based on mainline campaigns were probably mentioned there
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20161013 21:13:03< janebot> wesnoth: Drakes (by /u/Elandui) https://redd.it/57cpie
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