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Something might have changed during 10 years. Thank you. 20161015 09:45:19-!- tamanegi [~chatzilla@p865047-ipngn200709kobeminato.hyogo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 45.1.1/20160507231935]] 20161015 09:59:10-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C71128C77B020CFF94E5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 10:49:41-!- jemadux [~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 11:31:17-!- edaq [~edaq3@h184-60-58-252.cytnin.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20161015 11:49:40-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@static-89-94-113-91.axione.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: ChipmunkV] 20161015 12:15:03-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.242.139] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 12:24:57-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20161015 12:27:28-!- iwaim [~iwaim@124.146.179.10] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 12:49:26-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 12:50:22-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 13:10:41-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD106154002031.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20161015 13:11:18-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20161015 13:22:35-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@static-89-94-113-91.axione.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 13:22:50-!- jemadux [~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20161015 13:25:31-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 13:26:42-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@2001:44b8:254:3200:c199:223f:8b52:dc5d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20161015 13:32:52-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@KD106154010091.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 13:48:28-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 13:56:57-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.242.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20161015 14:01:27-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.242.139] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 14:06:49-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C71128C77B020CFF94E5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20161015 15:05:42-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C71120429CF15DF73E505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 15:33:52-!- poloking [~robert@2a02:c7d:ca3f:1300:d441:9154:8484:453b] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 15:37:24< zookeeper> Kwandulin, ah, i think i finished it 20161015 15:37:37< Kwandulin> zookeeper: that's great! 20161015 15:38:04< zookeeper> will take a moment to upload... 20161015 15:41:54< zookeeper> or actually, first you should check that i didn't forget anything: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/maps/ooa_maybe_final.png (used black background here for smaller filesize) 20161015 15:42:07< zookeeper> the text labels i'll let you do using the normal localization process 20161015 15:42:56< Kwandulin> looking good! 20161015 15:43:37< zookeeper> well, do take an extra careful look to make sure :P 20161015 15:45:52< Kwandulin> yeah, it's complete 20161015 15:46:59< zookeeper> okay, great 20161015 15:48:34< zookeeper> you familiar with https://wiki.wesnoth.org/MapLocalization ? 20161015 15:49:14< Kwandulin> Uh, no, not yet 20161015 15:49:23< Kwandulin> Just read that here, but that's probably outdated https://wiki.wesnoth.org/ImageLocalization#How_Does_It_Work.3F 20161015 15:50:11< zookeeper> well, no, that's still the way image localization technically works, but in your case you don't really need to worry about that 20161015 15:50:54< zookeeper> ok, so first grab https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/maps/ooa_localization.xcf 20161015 15:51:33< zookeeper> i mean, you're not doing a translation so this has nothing to do with localization as such, it's just that it's the best way for you to create the text labels 20161015 15:52:56< Kwandulin> alright 20161015 15:54:01< zookeeper> normally in a localization.xcf the "english map" layer is the version with the english labels burnt into it, but in this case it doesn't have any. but that doesn't matter; you just need to follow the Map_Localization page instructions and you should end up with a nice labels overlay that you can then merge with the "english map" layer to get the final result. 20161015 15:54:17< zookeeper> (or "labelless map"... as said, in this case they're identical) 20161015 15:56:39< zookeeper> the reason to use this process instead of just adding whatever labels you want to the map directly is that this is the only way to easily let the labels curve according to the paper folds and all that 20161015 15:58:54< Kwandulin> What's the standard font for map labels? 20161015 15:59:03-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@46-116-17-86.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 16:18:17-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20161015 16:20:43< zookeeper> huh, i didn't add mention of that? odd 20161015 16:21:36< zookeeper> Kwandulin, monotype corsiva 20161015 16:21:52< Kwandulin> zookeeper: thanks 20161015 16:22:01< Kwandulin> Also thanks a lot for the map itself! 20161015 16:23:21< zookeeper> aye aye 20161015 16:29:35-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 16:42:52-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 17:00:54-!- Porusaka is now known as Polsaker 20161015 17:03:36-!- poloking [~robert@2a02:c7d:ca3f:1300:d441:9154:8484:453b] has left #wesnoth [] 20161015 17:07:00-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.242.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20161015 17:30:07-!- Polsaker [~Polsaker@wikimedia/botters.Polsaker] has quit [Changing host] 20161015 17:30:07-!- Polsaker [~Polsaker@donger/wielder/Polsaker] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 17:49:27-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C71120429CF15DF73E505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20161015 18:32:19-!- Nikitaw99 [2e00dc35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.0.220.53] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 18:32:22< Nikitaw99> yo wassup 20161015 18:32:42< DeFender1031> hey Nikitaw99 20161015 18:33:16< Nikitaw99> DeFender1031: hi 20161015 18:33:28< Nikitaw99> how's it going guys? 20161015 18:34:14< DeFender1031> Pretty good. Workin' on my campaign. 20161015 18:34:36< Nikitaw99> oh 20161015 18:34:43< Nikitaw99> I am working on my campaign 20161015 18:35:18-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C7112DC984424A6E6FBD6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 18:36:18< Nikitaw99> trying to make my russian translation i made for it work 20161015 18:36:43-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p2E511872.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 18:37:31< DeFender1031> speaking of which, zookeeper or celticminstrel or any of the other regulars here, are animations required to be attached to a unit, or is there a way for me to give the game a bunch of animation code, a hex location, and a direction and tell it "run this animation now"? (If not, it's probably easy enough to create a dummy unit for it. Just wanted to make sure before I do extra work.) 20161015 18:38:08< DeFender1031> Nikitaw99, ah, i haven't gotten up to translations yet (not sure i'll bother at first), just trying to get the actual story and gameplay done. 20161015 18:41:06-!- Nikitaw99 [2e00dc35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.0.220.53] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20161015 18:46:24-!- wario_ [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 18:48:31-!- Nikitaw99 [2e00dc35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.0.220.53] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 18:48:36< Nikitaw99> argh 20161015 18:48:40< Nikitaw99> firefox crashed yet again 20161015 18:49:16< zookeeper> DeFender1031, has to be attached to a unit 20161015 18:49:36-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20161015 18:50:43< DeFender1031> zookeeper, thanks. 20161015 18:50:47< DeFender1031> Nikitaw99, :( 20161015 18:51:00< Nikitaw99> DeFender1031: oh well 20161015 18:51:08< Nikitaw99> i need to find a way to make firefox faster 20161015 18:51:31< DeFender1031> I just checked. Apparently I've been working on my campaign (including actually LEARNING wml and lua and such) for 8 months. 20161015 18:59:34-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20161015 19:09:45< Nikitaw99> ok, the translation works yay 20161015 19:16:14-!- Nikitaw99 [2e00dc35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.0.220.53] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20161015 19:20:22-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 19:23:25-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 19:38:46-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 20:55:08-!- ChipmunkV [~vova@static-89-94-113-91.axione.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: ChipmunkV] 20161015 21:16:12-!- iwaim [~iwaim@124.146.179.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20161015 21:26:13-!- iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 21:46:04-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20161015 21:59:32-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.242.139] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 22:02:39-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20161015 22:10:53-!- Kwandulin [~Miranda@p200300760F2C7112DC984424A6E6FBD6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20161015 22:20:11-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20161015 22:28:07-!- soloojos [~soloojos@gateway/tor-sasl/soloojos] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 23:02:50-!- wario [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 23:05:24-!- wario_ [~wario_@unaffiliated/wario] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20161015 23:07:05-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20161015 23:10:55-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20161015 23:22:11-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.242.139] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20161015 23:22:26-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.242.139] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 23:32:35-!- Smedles [~quassel@CPE-58-160-77-59.ssqn1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20161015 23:36:06-!- louis94 [~~louis94@91.178.242.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20161015 23:36:46-!- Smedles [~quassel@CPE-58-160-77-59.ssqn1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20161015 23:53:59-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@2001:44b8:254:3200:b8da:6dd0:abc0:d027] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Sun Oct 16 00:00:41 2016