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20161019 00:40:10< edaq> ah
20161019 00:40:23< edaq> chungy, I have it on wav, I dont know if they made a .flac
20161019 00:40:30< edaq> If they did I would want it :)
20161019 00:42:00< chungy> wav is usually lossless. Can you share it?
20161019 00:42:14< edaq> it came from the deb
20161019 00:42:30< chungy> really? interesting.
20161019 00:42:36< chungy> source deb or binary?
20161019 00:42:46< edaq> source deb
20161019 00:43:15< edaq> it may be its own package
20161019 00:44:09< edaq> ops
20161019 00:44:47< edaq> on this sys the .wavs are from the .oggs :|
20161019 00:45:57< edaq> chungy, if you find an original wav or flac link point me to it :)
20161019 00:47:15< edaq> I can try to contact a dev if you want chungy 
20161019 00:47:23< edaq> there is an email for them somewhere
20161019 00:47:32< chungy> sure, if they know
20161019 00:47:35< edaq> *rummages around in papers
20161019 00:47:37< edaq> they may not
20161019 00:47:50< edaq> wose yet
20161019 00:47:52< chungy> Kind of assuming it might not exist... would be a nice thing to have on the website normally
20161019 00:48:05< edaq> the music may have been contributed already in .ogg
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20161019 00:48:45< edaq> chungy, it is possible the .ogg was uncompressed
20161019 00:48:52< edaq> there is an option to make a lossless .ogg
20161019 00:49:13< edaq> .ogg was chosen over .wav because of copyright things in alot of gpl projects
20161019 00:49:42< chungy> That wouldn't sound right ... vorbis is just smaller.
20161019 00:49:55< edaq> nah ogg vorbis is copyleft
20161019 00:50:07< edaq> wav stands for Windows audio something
20161019 00:50:22< edaq> for awhile they tried to claim rights over the format
20161019 00:50:26< chungy> Then why are the sound effects in the format? :P
20161019 00:50:36< edaq> I have a custom package
20161019 00:50:42< chungy> WAV is just a RIFF container. Usually contains uncompressed PCM, but it can be any codec really.
20161019 00:50:50< edaq> ah
20161019 00:50:56< edaq> I know there was an issue with wav
20161019 00:50:59< edaq> not anymore
20161019 00:51:01< edaq> but there was
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20161019 00:51:12< edaq> my machine has .ogg automatically converted to .wav
20161019 00:51:16< edaq> which is weird
20161019 00:51:34< edaq> *cant remember why that was installed
20161019 00:51:46< edaq> I have two copies from the deb
20161019 00:51:52< edaq> northerners.ogg
20161019 00:52:02< edaq> then the converted northerners.wav
20161019 00:52:14< edaq> which might have been part of another package I installed
20161019 00:54:01< edaq> hey chungy 
20161019 00:54:05< edaq> if you have audacity
20161019 00:54:11< edaq> you can look at the author info
20161019 00:54:18< edaq> maybe there is a contact info
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20161019 00:58:24< chungy> ffprobe is better for that, lol... but anyway... that's a lot of artists to contact for music they made a long time ago
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20161019 08:37:45< zookeeper> Kwandulin, no problems with the labels?
20161019 08:38:25< Kwandulin> zookeeper: It is working fine and I already managed to implement the map and the routes
20161019 08:38:36< zookeeper> right, cool
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20161019 13:49:37< Kwandulin> zookeeper: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97230181/Wesnoth/OoA/ooa_bigmap.png
20161019 13:50:40< Kwandulin> Your opinion regarding font size + label placement? I still got the feeling, that the mountains of peril label is too small
20161019 13:51:40< zookeeper> yeah it is pretty small
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20161019 13:57:09< zookeeper> so i'd make that one a bit bigger, there's plenty of space for that
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20161019 13:58:38< Kwandulin> right and what's with the placement of the cloud river label?
20161019 14:00:36< zookeeper> well, there i'd rotate it a few degrees clockwise and shift it so none of the letters touch the river linework
20161019 14:02:36< Kwandulin> I'll see what I can do about it
20161019 14:03:40< zookeeper> to make the text more legible, the background behind them is blurred a bit, so when letters overlap linework or other high-contrast features like that, it can get a bit messy
20161019 14:05:32< Kwandulin> ah, alright
20161019 14:09:21< Kwandulin> How do you want to be mentioned in the campaign credits?
20161019 14:10:42< zookeeper> as in mainline credits
20161019 14:10:59 * zookeeper is actually afk atm
20161019 14:11:03< Kwandulin> okay
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20161019 16:41:27< DeFender1031> is there a way to force shroud to update in the middle of scripted actions? (I've noticed that [move_unit], [unstore_unit], [teleport], etc. don't actually update the shroud around the newly placed units until the event is over.) Alternatively, is there a way to filter location by locations currently within the vision range of a particular unit?
20161019 16:46:00< celticminstrel> I think that'd be [redraw]?
20161019 16:46:19< celticminstrel> And for the filtering, [filter_vision].
20161019 16:46:44< celticminstrel> (Within a SUF or SLF. I think it works in both.)
20161019 16:48:13< DeFender1031> redraw does not, in fact, update shroud.
20161019 16:48:29< celticminstrel> There's definitely some way to do it...
20161019 16:48:46< DeFender1031> and [filter_vision] is for sides, not units 
20161019 16:49:23< celticminstrel> Ah, you're right. :/
20161019 16:49:24< DeFender1031> and it doesn't work as a workaround... filter_vision is also reporting the shrouded areas as not visible until after the event.
20161019 16:49:33< DeFender1031> (I tried it.)
20161019 16:49:38< celticminstrel> Then you'd need the pathfinder to test a specific unit's vision...
20161019 16:50:07< celticminstrel> Redraw has a clear_shroud key.
20161019 16:50:16< DeFender1031> yeah, i just found that
20161019 16:50:28< DeFender1031> i had forgotten that redraw had attributes. :P
20161019 16:50:35< celticminstrel> Heh.
20161019 16:58:43< DeFender1031> Well, that... solved it certainly.
20161019 16:58:55 * DeFender1031 feels stupid for asking now.
20161019 17:34:01< Kwandulin> zookeeper (in hope that you're not afk anymore): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97230181/Wesnoth/OoA/ooa_bigmap.png better?
20161019 17:35:06< zookeeper> Kwandulin, looks better to me
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20161019 18:03:03< aeth> Wow. I am almost out of cave to make. I don't think I can procrastinate much more on my add-on
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20161019 18:09:28< aeth> I might have to expand my 400x200 map, though. I was very careful on the left and top edges not to put too much detail anywhere near the edges because expanding there would require moving all the coordinates, but... unfortunately on the bottom edge I wasn't that careful and now I have a bunch of detail right at the edge of the map.
20161019 18:09:38< aeth> Maybe 215 height or so would give it a better border
20161019 18:11:54< aeth> I'll still need to fix saves before I can do another test game. Hopefully by mid-November.
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20161019 19:29:58< DeFender1031> hey aeth 
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