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20161212 00:13:08< zookeeper> vultraz, this reproduces, and my guess is that it might be specific to the new [option] keys: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=606106#p606106
20161212 00:13:19< zookeeper> no time to test any details right now
20161212 00:15:24< zookeeper> hmh, or maybe not
20161212 00:16:06< zookeeper> yeah it's not the option stuff, i think
20161212 00:16:54< zookeeper> it's a preprocessor bug, somehow
20161212 00:17:20< zookeeper> i tried to reproduce what he's been describing earlier with no luck, so i dunno what's different with this one now...
20161212 00:17:32< zookeeper> oh, duh, the quotes
20161212 00:21:19< zookeeper> yeah, bob's just imagining things
20161212 00:21:40< zookeeper> works the same (as in correctly) both in 1.12 and 1.13
20161212 00:26:34< zookeeper> i just went and assumed that he had read the previous post and wasn't doing that exact thing i had as an example... oh well
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20161212 03:09:49< vultraz> :|
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20161212 03:22:31< celticminstrel> I wonder why the wiki syntax highlighter is broken.
20161212 03:22:37< celticminstrel> Where's shadowm when you need him.
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20161212 04:20:13< vultraz> serious wesbreak
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20161212 11:01:19< vultraz> JyrkiVesterinen: what's next on your TODO list?
20161212 11:02:15< JyrkiVesterinen> Trying out what happens if all GUI widgets (not only text-based) respect the minumum, maximum and default sizes.
20161212 11:02:48< vultraz> ah, *excellent* :D
20161212 11:02:54< vultraz> Exactly what I need.
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20161212 13:30:43< zookeeper> somehow i had forgotten that the issue of encampment walls being used to fill in gaps between other castle types was already fixed... pre-1.10, apparently.
20161212 13:30:51< zookeeper> but, this will still fix the problems of N/S walls getting split in the middle in a glitchy way, which makes different combinations much more usable: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63964618/wesnoth/castlejoinery.jpg
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20161212 13:42:00< irker972> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 3f91b454c3c0 / src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Made use of std::put_time over util::strftime https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3f91b454c3c066fee472996e577876eb49179cc5
20161212 13:43:51< vultraz> Should probably convert direct strftime usecases too
20161212 13:45:12< irker972> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master cc6f96aec7f8 / src/addon/manager_ui.cpp: Didn't mean to enable the GUI2 addons manager by default (fixup 3f91b454c3c0) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/cc6f96aec7f8bf7e59e0e5dff74b24843c8cd7a7
20161212 13:55:06< vultraz> and then there's translations::strftime
20161212 13:55:17< vultraz> just wesnoth codebase things
20161212 13:57:44< JyrkiVesterinen> Large codebase and a lot of contributors over time. It's not surprising that developers don't know that an equivalent function already exists somewhere else, and thus end up writing a duplicate.
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20161212 13:58:47< gfgtdf> vultraz: one of the main reaons why we use utils::strftime is that std::strftme, lika all other std:: function create invalid utf8 strings on windows, 
20161212 13:58:57< gfgtdf> vultraz: so its quite liskleey that your latest commit breaks that
20161212 14:02:57< irker972> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master f27dcefa31af / src/ (gui/widgets/debug.cpp log.cpp log_windows.cpp): Use std::put_time instead of strftime https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f27dcefa31afcfe4ea3396e4274d5585f7b33a4d
20161212 14:04:20< vultraz> gfgtdf: how so?
20161212 14:04:26< vultraz> i mean, how are they invalid
20161212 14:05:01< gfgtdf> vultraz: invalod iftc, not ever sequence of  bye is a sequence of utf8 charcters
20161212 14:05:22< vultraz> ...what?
20161212 14:05:47< gfgtdf> of bytes*
20161212 14:06:09< gfgtdf> every*
20161212 14:07:47< gfgtdf> vultraz: is doesnt apply to numbers since tehy are always ascii charcters, but if "Dec" or "p.m." caontains a non assci cahcters like 'ö' in a translation then the strigns ont be displayed correctly if you use std::put_time
20161212 14:08:28< gfgtdf> won't *
20161212 14:09:18< vultraz> this seems a rather large oversight on the part of the stdlib authors... or is it the fault of windows?
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20161212 14:10:22< gfgtdf> vultraz: well partly, the std:: doesn't exactly specify which  'locales' need to be supports, and the windows std:: api just doesnt support the most commonly useed locales (utf-8)
20161212 14:10:45< vultraz> ...but why :/
20161212 14:11:42< gfgtdf> vultraz: i mean this is the mainreason why we use boost::filesystem, and boos::locale is the first place (instead  of just std::locale and std::fstream)
20161212 14:13:11< vultraz> I thought we used boost::filesystem since std::filesystem isn't coming until c++17
20161212 14:13:53< gfgtdf> vultraz: no idea why, sure windows apis are moasrly mostly in utf-16 but i don't think it would have been o hard to implement utf-8 locales aswell, so not sure why
20161212 14:16:48< gfgtdf> vultraz: we'll see whether std::filesytem will support utf-8 in windows in c++17, its quite possible.
20161212 14:17:45< vultraz> well ill let other people decide what to do with the above commits or not
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20161212 14:17:52< vultraz> s/or not//
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20161212 14:38:41< gfgtdf> as i see it thoise cases mostyl contains numbers format that desnt break,  except on which uses a a.m./p.m. which might be trasnlated, 
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20161212 15:05:03< vultraz> are you kidding me :|
20161212 15:05:35< vultraz> god dammit gcc!
20161212 15:12:14< vultraz> debian stretch freezes in February
20161212 15:13:27< JyrkiVesterinen> Debian Sid (I use a distro based on that) has been in a rapid flux as Debian maintainers have been rushing as much modern software in Stretch as they can.
20161212 15:14:53< vultraz> good, good
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20161212 17:11:41< Appveyor> Details: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/wesnoth/wesnoth-7lnpw/build/Wesnoth-VS2015-master-37
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20161212 18:40:20< celticminstrel> So the tests are failing, huh...
20161212 18:42:44< celticminstrel> Ah. put_time not found. Probably a missing #include
20161212 18:51:19< celticminstrel> vultraz: I'm sorry, but we can't use std::put_time.
20161212 18:51:31< celticminstrel> What we can do is drop the std:: prefix and roll our own, though.
20161212 18:51:34< celticminstrel> If you want to do that.
20161212 18:51:51< celticminstrel> The other choice is reverting those two commits.
20161212 18:54:15< celticminstrel> I don't think rolling our own put_time would be super-hard, it's probably just a simple wrapper of strftime.
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20161212 19:03:24< celticminstrel> (Why are we rolling our own strftime, anyway?)
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20161212 23:38:27< DeFender1031> well that was fun.
20161212 23:40:34< DeFender1031> my new drives finally arrived. attempted to install devuan (debian auto-fork without the nightmarish systemd) from a boot cd with a very crappy installer... and it won't boot. so I plugged the old drives back in and i'll give it another shot with a different boot disk tomorrow.
20161212 23:40:47< DeFender1031> oh... vultraz isn't here.
20161212 23:41:22< DeFender1031> well whatever, maybe he'll read the logs. Anyway, this does mean I'm one step closer to actually contributing something to the project.
20161212 23:44:49< zookeeper> were you planning on working on something specific?
20161212 23:51:11< DeFender1031> zookeeper, we had discussed a while ago that i was going to start with rewriting the string splitting and bracket-syntax-expansion functions that I discovered that bug in, and then work up to something more involved, like adding features or restructuring things
20161212 23:51:41< zookeeper> mmkay
20161212 23:52:58< DeFender1031> I'm gonna be a real wesnoth dev before you know it! Half-bald from pulling hair out over some long-forgotten code stupidity and constant frustration FTW!
20161212 23:53:32< zookeeper> oh noes
20161212 23:58:46< zookeeper> but, you may also be initiated into the inner secret cabal where you will be bestowed with both riches and magical powers. so there's that.
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