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20161219 01:04:08< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: what is the intended usecafe for the toupper function? note that in its current implementation it wont work on arbitary strings, only acri caracters
20161219 01:04:33< gfgtdf> ascii
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20161219 01:45:32< celticminstrel> gfgtdf: That's probably fine, since WFL isn't translation-friendly in general, though if you want to extend it to work on UTF-8, I would not complain.
20161219 01:46:24< celticminstrel> The intended use-case is for people who want to store text in a WML variable and then case-transform it at some use sites. For example, you might have someone who says something, and then yells the same thing later, so you could use the str_upper function to transform it in the second case.
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20161219 02:15:45< DeFender1031> can I make a dumb suggestion that people probably won't like? Can I suggest that there be a separate channel for the testing bots where only they have voice so that their join-message-message-part doesn't clutter up the other conversation going on in here?
20161219 02:18:37< celticminstrel> I don't really mind them, honestly... though the AppVeyor one is slightly annoying only because it's scheduled instead of responding to push.
20161219 02:23:31< DeFender1031> i think maybe my annoyance has increased since the addition of appveyor
20161219 02:24:36< DeFender1031> anyway, a certain wiki to which I contribute does the same thing. They have a bot that announces all edits to the wiki in a dedicated channel where only the bot has voice, and they have their discussions on the main channel.
20161219 02:25:07< DeFender1031> I find it easier to follow both the conversation and the bot announcements when they're separate. Otherwise, the things get lost in each other IMHO.
20161219 02:25:57< DeFender1031> Obviously, I'm not going to be insulted if this suggestion is wholly rejected, just thought it was worth mentioning in case anyone else feels the same way
20161219 02:26:57< DeFender1031> (I honestly still don't feel like I have much right to suggest large changes around here, but no one seems to have found my boldness off-putting thusfar, so whatever.)
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20161219 04:07:21< irker246> wesnoth: pentarctagon wesnoth:master 9f79398ecfb6 / / (31 files in 8 dirs): Deletes unused, unbuildable tools https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9f79398ecfb6a70e727fc9bd31f66df495b520c1
20161219 04:07:21< irker246> wesnoth: pentarctagon wesnoth:master b991c320a48f / / (40 files in 5 dirs): Delete additional resources https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/b991c320a48fd29735d15dbc2729a4df27242a56
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20161219 04:24:19< irker246> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 5432f99c7965 / / (5 files in 3 dirs): Move tag.?pp into serialization directory https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5432f99c796544e6de5ea56e85412e6a0b87d613
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20161219 04:57:22< DeFender1031> is there a way to use git without having to make my email address public?
20161219 04:57:45< DeFender1031> something like "git config --global user.email PRIVATE" or something?
20161219 04:59:36< celticminstrel> I just set a fake email.
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20161219 05:00:15< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#12463 (master - b991c32 : pentarctagon): The build has errored.
20161219 05:00:15< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/185054477
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20161219 05:00:31< DeFender1031> so you guys won't care if that's what I do?
20161219 05:00:38< celticminstrel> Mine is @some.place which is obviouslt not a real domain.
20161219 05:00:49< celticminstrel> I won't care if you do that.
20161219 05:01:24< celticminstrel> It's even possible to associate it with your github account; it can't be verified, since it doesn't exist, but verifying it isn't needed for github to recognize it as you.
20161219 05:01:30< DeFender1031> and it doesn't seem that anyone else cares that you have.
20161219 05:01:39< DeFender1031> Not a bad idea.
20161219 05:01:41< celticminstrel> Yeah, it doesn't seem that way.
20161219 05:02:15< celticminstrel> (Associating it means that someone can click on my name in a commit and go to my profile page.)
20161219 05:02:28< DeFender1031> For the record, I probaby wouldn't mind sharing my email with the people here should the need arise, I just don't want it to be in every public log and commit for no reason.
20161219 05:02:47< celticminstrel> Likewise.
20161219 05:03:01< DeFender1031> Oh, I thought you meant "Setting it to DeFender1031@github.com"
20161219 05:03:20< celticminstrel> Actually I've posted to the mailing list, so presumably some people here already know my email.
20161219 05:03:36< DeFender1031> which is what i think i'll do, because I can't think of a more clever domain to use
20161219 05:04:15< celticminstrel> I don't recommend setting it to @users.noreply.github.com, since I suspect that'll cause github to report your commits as having been committed via github.
20161219 05:04:32< celticminstrel> I guess @github.com works.
20161219 05:04:59< DeFender1031> celticminstrel, i see a real-looking email address in your commits
20161219 05:05:07< DeFender1031> (using git log)
20161219 05:05:32< celticminstrel> Oops...
20161219 05:05:34< celticminstrel> :/
20161219 05:06:42< celticminstrel> I guess I misconfigured the Windows computer...
20161219 05:09:13< DeFender1031> ouch... sorry to be the bearer of bad news
20161219 05:09:41< celticminstrel> Well, it's fixed, but Wesnoth won't allow me to filter-branch and truly fix it.
20161219 05:10:45< irker246> wesnoth: Wedge009 wesnoth:master d472c7a8c54f / projectfiles/VC12/ (wesnoth.vcxproj wesnoth.vcxproj.filters): Update VC project. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d472c7a8c54fbada916e48fabb28937c3f9796cf
20161219 05:10:47< irker246> wesnoth: Wedge009 wesnoth:master 17f25ee584c4 / src/serialization/ (schema_validator.hpp tag.cpp): Tag header was moved to serialization directory in 5432f99c. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/17f25ee584c4f7275edd713d878ff4887847bc54
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20161219 06:12:47< celticminstrel> ...gah. Why didn't I think of that.
20161219 06:14:12< celticminstrel> Oh, looks like wedge009 fixed it though, thanks.
20161219 06:15:59< irker246> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 3621a38a29d9 / projectfiles/VC12/ (schema_generator.vcxproj schema_generator.vcxproj.filters wesnoth.sln): Remove MSVC schema generator project https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3621a38a29d9f4a95aeeb34533193f3c7b4ff359
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20161219 06:19:19< celticminstrel> Apparently that updated the VisualStudioVersion key in the solution.
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20161219 10:25:22< Rhonda> Anyone from the wesnoth team coming to 33c3 btw.?
20161219 10:26:47< zookeeper> neverheard
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20161219 10:37:51< Rhonda> chaos communication congress, the probably biggest it event.
20161219 10:39:26< zookeeper> i'm not hacker enough
20161219 10:41:12< Rhonda> Me neither. :)
20161219 10:41:19< Rhonda> You definitely hack more than me.
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20161219 15:23:56< shadowm> celticminstrel: localhost or example.com are better choices if you want an unreachable or valid-but-reserved hostname.
20161219 15:24:09< shadowm> 12:21:59 shadowm@nanacore ~ % host some.place
20161219 15:24:12< shadowm> some.place has address 72.52.4.119
20161219 15:25:08< shadowm> (It has a bogus MX but it's otherwise a valid DNS parking website listening on port 80.)
20161219 15:25:51< celticminstrel> Surprising.
20161219 15:26:31< JyrkiVesterinen> Indeed. I wouldn't have expected that someone owns that domain.
20161219 15:26:32< JyrkiVesterinen> https://whois.domaintools.com/some.place
20161219 15:36:11< celticminstrel> BTW shadowm, can you check what's up with the syntax highlighting on the wiki? It seems the WML highlighting is broken again.
20161219 15:46:20< shadowm> Do you remember what it is I used to test this from the shell?
20161219 15:47:24< celticminstrel> Sorry, I don't.
20161219 15:48:13< celticminstrel> Assuming I'm not wrong about what you mean by "this".
20161219 15:48:44< shadowm> I clearly meant the only thing I could possibly mean.
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20161219 15:53:25< shadowm> Works for me on the command line, and you didn't give me a specific page to check.
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20161219 16:09:49< shadowm> Okay, the issue seems to be somewhere in the MW plugin itself or how it invokes pygmentize.
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20161219 16:11:20< shadowm> Maybe it fix itself whenever I get around to upgrading the wiki (read: on the next release of the latest branch).
20161219 16:11:25< shadowm> *it'll
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20161219 22:44:56< zookeeper> okay... how to handle garak's duel thing and death better...
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20161219 23:02:44< zookeeper> garak must die and it'd be nice to keep the idea of dueling the enemy leaders/champions, but the current way is rather clunky and confusing.
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