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20161228 04:35:44< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/187125681
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20161228 06:36:59< Aginor> right, compile works, now it's just some of the wml tests failing
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20161228 08:31:13< Aginor> hmmm
20161228 08:31:34< Aginor> data-dir ends up being overriden to an empty string when I'm trying to run the wml tests
20161228 08:31:43< Aginor> has anyone seen that before?
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20161228 16:33:46< zookeeper> i thought i understood how this stuff works... now i can't find anything in the code that actually uses basex and basey (besides the layers dialog), even though they obviously are used.
20161228 16:34:52< zookeeper> i'm clearly missing some place where the values of those variables end up somewhere else, but i can't see it.
20161228 16:37:38< zookeeper> ah! it seems only basey is actually used (which kind of makes sense, of course), in builder.hpp.
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20161228 16:54:06< zookeeper> also i'm pretty sure there is some kind of fundamental bug in the base rotation calculation in terrain_builder::rotate but it's probably the kind of thing no one would be able to figure out.
20161228 16:57:26< DeFender1031> zookeeper, there's some kind of fundamental bug in most areas of the code.
20161228 16:58:04< celticminstrel> That might be going a bit far...
20161228 16:58:05< zookeeper> and that's all fine as long as they don't bother anyone terribly much
20161228 16:58:50< DeFender1031> celticminstrel, not really. I'd say that most pieces of code in general (in the world at large) have some kind of fundamental bug.
20161228 16:59:20< DeFender1031> as a friend of mine says, "humans are the worst programmers."
20161228 16:59:41< celticminstrel> That's also going a bit far.
20161228 17:00:12< celticminstrel> First of all, before humans can be called the worst programmers, you need to have some entity that is better than humans at programming.
20161228 17:01:00< zookeeper> yeah, that's an easy one. walruses. ever seen a walrus try to program a mobile app? it's a really sad sight. poor things.
20161228 17:01:19< zookeeper> i mean, they really try, but... they're just so bad at it.
20161228 17:01:26< DeFender1031> zookeeper, it's the tusks.
20161228 17:01:41< DeFender1031> celticminstrel, in case it wasn't clear, I'm being half-facetious.
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20161228 17:01:57< zookeeper> i think bringing up the tusks is just a convenient excuse
20161228 17:02:25< celticminstrel> XD
20161228 17:03:12< DeFender1031> zookeeper, I dunno, man, I once knew this tuskless walrus... Had to take his clam smoothies through a straw, but man, could he code!
20161228 17:03:21< zookeeper> no matter how accessible you make things for them, they're still all really terrible coders
20161228 17:03:52< celticminstrel> XD
20161228 17:04:00< DeFender1031> (Yes, I did just google "what do walruses eat?")
20161228 17:04:13< zookeeper> so yeah, tell your friend they're uninformed and shouldn't use that saying again
20161228 17:04:24< DeFender1031> :P
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20161228 17:15:31< zookeeper> i think i get how the base coordinate rotations work... but it's... eh...
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20161228 17:16:55< zookeeper> especially when i added code to tell it not to do that why is it still doing something like it blerargasd
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20161228 17:29:55< zookeeper> righty, time to stop trying to do things with rotations before my brain melts, i'll just have to define the rotations by hand
20161228 17:30:09< zookeeper> awkward, but the only way to retain sanity
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20161228 17:32:09< irker178> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master d6d25b50c001 / utils/appveyor/irc-notify.py: AppVeyor IRC notification: explicitly set character encoding to UTF-8 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d6d25b50c001eb88d3cd2ce5dfd8ceb8c0a5712d
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20161228 17:57:25< irker178> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 8ed34446b962 / data/core/images/terrain/forest/ (deciduous-summer-small.png deciduous-summer-sparse3.png): Subtle tweak to a tree I always felt looked a bit motion-blurry https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8ed34446b96277e1fdca47977baf86685c3b4452
20161228 17:57:34< zookeeper> (really subtle, but it's been bugging me)
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20161228 18:04:38< DeFender1031> zookeeper, must be... i don't see a change at all.
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20161228 18:05:09< zookeeper> it shows when you have lots of those trees showing up at once on a map, not really when just looking at the image itself.
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20161228 18:07:00< zookeeper> (it's the top left round tree)
20161228 18:07:02< DeFender1031> so part of the semi-transparent ouline then?
20161228 18:07:33< DeFender1031> s/outline/edge pixels
20161228 18:07:55< zookeeper> it looked a bit like it had 45 degree motion blur on it, probably due to so many little details aligning in that direction
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20161228 18:29:16< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#12492 (master - d6d25b5 : Jyrki Vesterinen): The build passed.
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20161228 19:09:11< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/187266066
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20161228 21:05:09 * zookeeper craves a hotkey for the layers dialog, in the editor
20161228 21:05:28< zookeeper> that would be amazingly useful
20161228 21:21:11< celticminstrel> I imagine it's possible to do somehow...
20161228 21:21:41< celticminstrel> Might even be as simple as just adjusting the scope in the master hotkeys list.
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