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20161201 02:41:09< winsgfalcon> helo
20161201 02:42:29< winsgfalcon> i am using hostspot shield please unbanned my ip i think i have t say sorry admin
20161201 02:42:44< winsgfalcon> i say i am sorry
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20161201 13:14:49< DeFender1031> What's with the weird connection between enter/exit hex and [allow_undo]?
20161201 13:15:22< DeFender1031> seems like a strange behavior to connect whether the movement is interrupted to whether the action can be undone...
20161201 13:16:07< DeFender1031> seems like it'd have been better off with an extra attribute of "interrupt_movement" or something rather than this weirdness.
20161201 13:32:52 * zookeeper shrugs
20161201 13:35:26< DeFender1031> zookeeper, did that shrug mean don't agree, don't care, or don't know why it was done?
20161201 13:35:36< DeFender1031> or something else entirely?
20161201 13:36:36< zookeeper> general-purpose indifference and not seeing much of a problem, i guess :p
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20161201 13:39:19< DeFender1031> You really don't think it's strange for these behaviors to be connected? What if I don't want to allow undo but I want the movement to continue? What if I want to stop the movement but still allow undo? (There are actually workarounds for both, but that's not the point.)
20161201 13:41:59< zookeeper> seeing how the events still feel like some kind of elaborate hack to me, no not too strange, really. if we can have nice functionality like that, i'll just take it and not ask any questions :p
20161201 13:42:55< zookeeper> certain point of view, and all that
20161201 13:46:42< zookeeper> it's also possible that i'm just unable to dedicate enough brainpower to really consider the matter properly
20161201 14:02:31< DeFender1031> elaborate hack?
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20161201 19:33:43< Shiki> The wesnoth unit tree script doesn't run for trunk anymore
20161201 19:33:50< Shiki> generated on Thu Feb 18 23:52:46 2016 <<<
20161201 19:49:38< Ravana_> same happened in 2015 https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=41617
20161201 19:50:22< celticminstrel> Known, will be fixed soonish.
20161201 19:51:03< Ravana_> is the generator written in python?
20161201 19:51:17< celticminstrel> ?
20161201 19:51:36< celticminstrel> Oh, sorry, I misunderstood what Shiki was referring to.
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20161201 19:51:39< celticminstrel> Never mind.
20161201 19:51:52< celticminstrel> The unit tree updater is written in Python, yes.
20161201 19:53:38< Ravana_> which file works as entry point for the generating?
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20161201 19:56:15< celticminstrel> I thought it was in utils/... did it get moved to data/tools? I see a wmlunits there.
20161201 19:57:16< Soliton> data/tools for stuff that works on internal wesnoth data.
20161201 19:57:24< Ravana_> I think it from update-wmlunits
20161201 19:58:29< Soliton> it starts with parsing core/units.cfg if that was the question.
20161201 19:59:26< Ravana_> no, I wanted to be able to manually run it locally
20161201 19:59:57< Soliton> ah, data/tools/wmlunits
20161201 20:01:20< Ravana_> I find it suspicious that https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/data/tools/unit_tree/update-wmlunits has # VERSION=1.12
20161201 20:02:53< Ravana_> but maybe there is somewhere different version for 1.13
20161201 20:04:28< celticminstrel> It sets OUT to a login on a LAN IP...
20161201 20:04:58< celticminstrel> I think the VERSION=1.12 is only intended as an example.
20161201 20:10:51< Soliton> wesnoth (getting called from python) is getting OOM killed. so the script didn't finish.
20161201 20:13:39< Soliton> hmm, or maybe that actually does not fail the script.
20161201 20:13:59< Soliton> the master version does not get past the compiling wesnoth step.
20161201 20:14:32< Soliton> perhaps because wesnoth often doesn't build...
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20161201 20:16:30< Shiki> But it's since February. Maybe the server lacks changed dependencies? 
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20161201 20:22:03< Soliton> yeah, seems so.
20161201 20:22:39< Shiki> 2 weeks later 1.13.4 was released
20161201 20:22:43< Ravana_> ah I forgot 1.13 hides my userdata
20161201 20:22:57< Ravana_> going back to 1.13.2 thread to see where it must be...
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20161201 20:24:19< Soliton> sdl 2.0.4 is needed which does not seem to be in debian stable.
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20161201 20:26:58< Shiki> it's not. here are links for sdl 2.05 https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Compilingwesnoth#Dev_Version_Additional_Requirements
20161201 20:27:28< Soliton> yeah, i'm not going to compile sdl.
20161201 20:27:55< Shiki> uh, it's very quick. did this on a computer from 2006
20161201 20:28:58< Soliton> volunteer to maintain the units VM then.
20161201 20:31:03< Shiki> ok
20161201 20:48:14< Ravana_> wmlparser3 seems to expect some files in AppData\Local\Temp\ which do not exist
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20161201 21:06:48< Ravana_> oh well, will try again eventually
20161201 21:07:41< Ravana_> at least I managed to import yaml this time
20161201 21:25:18< Shiki> It would be really great if we could end up with a readme or sth like that
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