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20161208 02:19:22< Shiki>  there was a new attribute in 1.13 for filtering similar to type=
20161208 02:19:28< Shiki> was it type_tree=?
20161208 02:19:44< Shiki> I can't find the wikipage somehow
20161208 02:57:05< vultraz> celticminstrel: ^
20161208 03:21:00< Shiki> ^ added it
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20161208 14:00:49< anonymous_IRC> Hello.
20161208 14:01:00< anonymous_IRC> Why Wesnoth is hard?
20161208 14:01:39< anonymous_IRC> Campaign for beginners on normal difficulty.
20161208 14:01:51< anonymous_IRC> I want to save all units.
20161208 14:02:19< Soliton> play on easy difficulty.
20161208 14:03:06< Soliton> and maybe don't expect to save all units as a beginner.
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20161208 14:04:51< Nikitaw99> yeah
20161208 14:05:05< Nikitaw99> you will eventually start losing some units
20161208 14:05:48< Nikitaw99> i once even reached a scenario in the HtTT campaign that i had LOTS of lvl2 units on, but most died
20161208 14:05:58< Nikitaw99> and konrad was on lvl3
20161208 14:10:05< anonymous_IRC> Why there is no multiplayer mode "Online with debugging"?
20161208 14:10:22< anonymous_IRC> I mean online with debug commands.]
20161208 14:10:25< anonymous_IRC> *.
20161208 14:11:22< Nikitaw99> anonymous_IRC, what do you mean, exactly?
20161208 14:11:30< zookeeper> it wouldn't work unless someone spent a lot of time making it work... which no one has done
20161208 14:11:37< Nikitaw99> oh
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20161208 14:28:51< celticminstrel> Debug mode is for testing.
20161208 14:29:08< celticminstrel> Not for playong.
20161208 14:29:12< celticminstrel> ^playing
20161208 14:50:03< Ravana_> I have implemented [modification] that gives me access to those debug commands that I actually use - inspect and unit. Testing for oos is valid use case for that
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20161208 15:17:21< celticminstrel> Inspect probably wouldn't cause out-of-sync issues generally, but maybe if you used it on the first turn.
20161208 15:20:09< DeFender1031> why would first turn make a difference?
20161208 15:21:25< celticminstrel> Because IIRC AI is initialized at the start of the side's first turn, but if you use inspect, it's forcibly initialized earlier (possibly only if you actually view the AI info in the inspector, not sure).
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20161208 15:23:12< Ravana_> it is completely synced
20161208 15:23:27< Ravana_> can only be used during own turn
20161208 15:23:58< celticminstrel> But can potentially initialize AI for another side. I'm not sure if that can cause out-of-sync errors though.
20161208 15:24:25< Ravana_> using debug commands, and even non-debug commands, WILL cause oos if used at wrong moment
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20161208 18:25:05< J1sy> Hello
20161208 18:33:09< Soliton> greetings.
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20161208 18:35:52< zookeeper> see, you shouldn't greet newbies.
20161208 18:36:12< Soliton> /o\
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