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20161227 13:24:15< moongazer> Hi
20161227 13:24:55< moongazer> I have a problem with the battle for wesnoth
20161227 13:25:15< moongazer> Whenever I download a new add on, it says 'installed' but I can't play it
20161227 13:26:22< moongazer> Can someone help me?
20161227 13:47:47< Ravana_> not all addons are supposed to be played. Would you be more specific?
20161227 13:49:46< moongazer> Ravana_, I clicked on add ons and then loaded the ones on the default server/
20161227 13:50:10< Ravana_> yes, there are 2000 of them, which ones you tried?
20161227 13:50:10< moongazer> Then I selected 17th century eastern europe at war
20161227 13:50:31< Ravana_> so did you go to multiplayer next?
20161227 13:51:14< moongazer> no
20161227 13:51:25< moongazer> I thought it was a single player campgain
20161227 13:51:27< Ravana_> well, there you can play it
20161227 13:51:47< Ravana_> you can filter addons by type if you only want certain ones
20161227 13:54:25< moongazer> I will uninstall the multiplayer one now
20161227 13:54:33< moongazer> I now installed Ashen hearts
20161227 13:54:45< moongazer> Suggest me some good single player campgains
20161227 13:55:08< Ravana_> To Lands Unknown
20161227 13:55:18< Ravana_> the only campaign I have ever finished
20161227 13:55:58< moongazer> did you finish the default ones?
20161227 13:56:11< moongazer> I love the story, so well written and interconnected
20161227 13:56:26< Ravana_> no
20161227 13:56:40< moongazer> How do I uninstall campgains
20161227 13:57:03< Ravana_> core ones can only be removed by deleting them from your filesystem
20161227 13:57:07< moongazer> is Ashen hearts good?
20161227 13:57:11< moongazer> Non core ones?
20161227 13:57:21< Ravana_> noncore ones by removing that addon
20161227 13:57:57< moongazer> Ok lol sorry
20161227 13:58:12< moongazer> So is 'To Lands Unknown' good?
20161227 13:58:16< moongazer> I am gonna install it now
20161227 13:58:52< Ravana_> I really liked it
20161227 13:59:25< Ravana_> and all other campaigns I have checked since then have seemed inadequate compared to it
20161227 14:00:53< moongazer> Ok I am gonna play it
20161227 14:01:07< moongazer> Ashen hearts is about an empire of dragens
20161227 14:01:13< moongazer> *dragons
20161227 14:01:17< moongazer> or drakes
20161227 14:02:31< moongazer> I love this game
20161227 14:05:56< zookeeper> it's true, wesnoth is teh best
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20161227 14:51:52< moongazer> The story is truly impressive
20161227 14:52:09< moongazer> We should be able to transform wesnoth into an fps
20161227 14:54:55< zookeeper> no no no, it has to be an MMO sports game
20161227 14:54:58< zookeeper> wesball 2.0
20161227 14:55:24< zookeeper> of course, kids these days wouldn't even know wesball
20161227 14:55:56< Polsaker> nah, just transform wesnoth into a sandbox game
20161227 14:55:58< Polsaker> wescraft
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20161227 14:57:32< zookeeper> well wescraft could be an MMORPG too
20161227 14:57:42< zookeeper> or it could be warnoth
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20161227 16:48:45< moongazer> Ravana_, this looks like a castle in Arabia
20161227 16:48:49< moongazer> dunno
20161227 16:49:06< Ravana_> ?
20161227 16:49:22< moongazer> I love the tolkien style ancient drakes liches dwarves elves wesnoth king haldric etc.
20161227 16:49:32< moongazer> Ravana_, the one you suggested
20161227 16:49:41< Ravana_> I see
20161227 16:51:12< moongazer> Thanks though. 
20161227 16:51:15< moongazer> Gotta go
20161227 16:51:24< moongazer> Which is your favourite wesnoth faction?
20161227 16:51:27< moongazer> and alliance?
20161227 16:53:56< Ravana_> my favorite is Tharis
20161227 16:54:17< Ravana_> for alliance, well, I only know Dark Blood Alliance, that is quite nice
20161227 16:54:54< moongazer> I like the undead and the northern alliance of dwarves and men
20161227 16:55:06< moongazer> Anyway thanks gotta go bye!
20161227 16:57:38< moongazer> The campgain you suggested looks good too
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20161227 17:04:32< moongazer> I am back
20161227 17:05:12< moongazer> Ravana_, do you how do I go about making a campaign for wesnoth?
20161227 17:05:44< moongazer> This Mehir story is just amazing/
20161227 17:05:44< Ravana_> check addons such as Campaign-How-To (A Simple Campaign)
20161227 17:05:47< moongazer> I am reading it
20161227 17:05:59< moongazer> Ravana_, okay...
20161227 17:06:26< moongazer> So it includes even programming and designing the graphics of the new characters?
20161227 17:06:37< Ravana_> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/Create
20161227 17:06:39< zookeeper> certainly
20161227 17:07:06< moongazer> I was wondering 'cause this Mehir campaign has pretty new races, creatures, attacks, everything etc.
20161227 17:07:17< moongazer> So one can make something pretty unique
20161227 17:07:41< zookeeper> there is no single comprehensive tutorial about how to make everything, you'll have to spend quite a lot of time learning stuff if you want to make a campaign.
20161227 17:08:02< moongazer> Is it possible to make wesnoth into something like lord of the rings game? I mean you select multiple units at once and they attack whichever way they want too
20161227 17:08:09< zookeeper> although as you can see from the number of campaigns there are, it's not a particularly impossible task.
20161227 17:08:18< zookeeper> no, it's not possible
20161227 17:08:55< zookeeper> well, it's _possible_ but it probably wouldn't work very well or be very fun.
20161227 17:16:34< moongazer> zookeeper, it's fun in the lord of the rings
20161227 17:16:39< moongazer> Depends on the campgain
20161227 17:16:48< moongazer> If you have absurdly large armies
20161227 17:17:16< moongazer> Ravana_, whoa the flying land in the story...just amazing
20161227 17:17:26< moongazer> Ravana_, who wrote the script?
20161227 17:17:35< Ravana_> inferno8
20161227 17:18:07< zookeeper> whichever game you're talking about is a completely different kind of game than wesnoth. a gravity gun might be fun in half-life but that doesn't mean that a gravity gun in wesnoth would be.
20161227 17:19:39< zookeeper> for example, you don't want to spend half of your time trying to prevent the AI from putting your units on stupid terrain which they would do all the time when carrying out your nonspecific attack orders.
20161227 17:22:01< moongazer> I now love Wesnoth more than ever
20161227 17:22:31< moongazer> zookeeper, i know but the option would be awesome
20161227 17:24:35< moongazer> Ravana_, does inferno8 come on this group?
20161227 17:24:42< zookeeper> no
20161227 17:25:02< zookeeper> if you want to get in touch then you'd probably have to do it through the forums
20161227 17:25:15< moongazer> zookeeper, oh ok.
20161227 17:25:25< Ravana_> I wouldn't even know, I only forward messages from freenode to my main irc
20161227 17:25:27< moongazer> zookeeper, Ravana_ , have you made any campgains?
20161227 17:25:32< moongazer> ok
20161227 17:25:41< Ravana_> I only work with multiplayer
20161227 17:26:01< zookeeper> nah, i just take care of existing things
20161227 17:27:59< moongazer> So you both are developers..
20161227 17:28:17< moongazer> How do I contribute to the game? Like the core part?
20161227 17:29:17< moongazer> Is it written in C++?
20161227 17:29:45< zookeeper> mostly, yes
20161227 17:30:04< moongazer> So how do I do it>
20161227 17:30:16< moongazer> I want some game development experience
20161227 17:30:50< Ravana_> I have tried to work with core game, but I have not managed to compile it yet
20161227 17:31:13< zookeeper> depends on what you'd want to work on
20161227 17:32:48< zookeeper> make a great piece of art and let us know and maybe we'll find a use for it. or if you want to do coding then the usual procedure is through pull requests on github.
20161227 17:33:29< zookeeper> there's some threads and wiki pages on git and compiling and all that stuff.
20161227 17:34:34< moongazer> zookeeper, I hardly know anything about art
20161227 17:34:41< moongazer> I am into programming though
20161227 17:34:43< moongazer> hehe
20161227 17:36:38< zookeeper> well, then the short version is basically to clone the repository, get it to compile, do something that needs doing (such as fixing bugs listed on the bug tracker) and submit a pull request for it.
20161227 17:37:14< zookeeper> if you get stuck or the available instructions aren't enough or you need something else, #wesnoth-dev is the main development channel to ask questions about those sorts of things
20161227 17:40:42< moongazer> Great
20161227 17:40:51< moongazer> I will starting doing things now
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20161227 17:51:52< moongazer> I have another silly question. The fast forward thing using the shift key is not working.
20161227 17:52:02< moongazer> How do I go about fixing it?
20161227 17:52:42< moongazer> And why does an amazing game such as Wesnoth have only a few thousand downloads for it?!
20161227 17:52:51< moongazer> *it's extra campaigns
20161227 17:52:59< moongazer> *its
20161227 17:53:18< Ravana_> it is not really fast forward, it just temporarily toggles speed checkbox
20161227 17:53:37< Ravana_> so if you normally have higher speed, the shift makes it slow
20161227 17:54:53< zookeeper> where do you see "few thousand downloads"?
20161227 17:55:55< zookeeper> sourceforge claims 4000+ downloads for 1.12.6... per week
20161227 17:58:37< zookeeper> and some 125000 downloads for it in total... and that's just for one version out of about a hundred we've had so far :p
20161227 18:08:08< moongazer> Ok
20161227 18:08:26< moongazer> I mean not the game...the game has lots of downloads:)
20161227 18:08:35< moongazer> I am talking about the extra campaigns
20161227 18:09:26< moongazer> I am playing the birth of a lich now
20161227 18:10:15< moongazer> It tells the story of Malifor who is later defeated by Tallin in the northern alliance
20161227 18:11:11< zookeeper> oh, well. probably the main campaigns are enough for a lot of people, and there's hundreds of add-ons to choose from, so... thousands of downloads for an add-on is still good. besides, the downloads on the 1.12 add-on server are separate from the ones on older add-on servers, etc, so the total is quite a lot bigger anyway.
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20161227 18:29:51< moongazer> zookeeper, ok
20161227 18:29:59< moongazer> I got disconnected
20161227 18:30:07< moongazer> Cool
20161227 18:30:09< moongazer> Bye
20161227 18:30:21< moongazer> I am reading up on development now
20161227 18:30:49< moongazer> I also got to think up some story and do creative writing for the dialogues and scenarios
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20161227 22:18:51-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Check out our Discord server: https://discord.gg/tSmJS2E | Wesnoth User Channel | http://wesnoth.org | Latest stable version: 1.12.6 | Latest development version: 1.13.6 | Check the upness of Wesnoth servers: http://status.wesnoth.org | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pasteb
20161227 22:18:51-!- Topic set by iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] [Thu Dec 22 00:57:35 2016]
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20161227 22:18:51[ DDR           ] [ Gambit      ] [ knotwork  ] [ NeaN       ] [ Soliton   ] [ zookeeper    ] 
20161227 22:18:51-!- Irssi: #wesnoth: Total of 60 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 60 normal]
20161227 22:18:51-!- Home page for #wesnoth: http://www.wesnoth.org
20161227 22:18:54-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 06:42:43 2006
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