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20170119 02:33:11< celticminstrel> Hmm... what would be the difference between [else] in [elseif] and [else] beside [elseif]?
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20170119 12:16:50< atarocch> hello
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20170119 12:18:34< atarocch> trying to build wesnoth 1.13.6 on arch linux (I maintain the package), and got this error: https://gist.github.com/valdar/9e335068dba938fc492fad040b3fc602
20170119 12:18:44< atarocch> any ideas?
20170119 12:20:09< DeFender1031> atarocch, i'm probably a terrible person to ask, and don't know much about the codebase yet, but that looks like a missing boost library
20170119 12:20:41< atarocch> mmm since version 1.13.5 compiled
20170119 12:20:49< atarocch> which one could be?
20170119 12:21:40< DeFender1031> no idea. Like I said, I'm not so familiar with what's here. All I know is that the error is indicating that there's some boost function which it's unable to link to.
20170119 12:21:41< atarocch> (and is not detected at config check time btw)
20170119 12:22:23< DeFender1031> true, that appears to be another problem.
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20170119 12:25:42< atarocch> I have boost 1.63.0 installed along with his headers 
20170119 12:25:51< atarocch> might be the version?
20170119 12:40:34< atarocch> or version of the compiler? gcc 6.3.1
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20170119 12:58:27< zookeeper> hrhm, what to call this bat... lvl2 Fearsome Bat, lvl1 Friendly Bat, lvl0 ??? Bat
20170119 12:58:44< zookeeper> or alternatively, lvl2 Fearsome Bat, lvl1 ??? Bat, lvl0 Friendly Bat
20170119 12:59:43< UnwiseOwl> Ferocious is a good F word.
20170119 12:59:44< zookeeper> tame? meek? small? docile? garden variety?
20170119 12:59:56< UnwiseOwl> Friendly<Fearsome<Ferocious.
20170119 13:00:06< zookeeper> hmh, yeah that might work
20170119 13:00:35< UnwiseOwl> It has a very similar meaning to fearsome, so it might cause translation issues, potentially.
20170119 13:01:40< vultraz> Something can be ferocious without being fearsome. 
20170119 13:04:35< UnwiseOwl> Another nice option is 'Feral'?
20170119 13:05:07< zookeeper> well, i wanted to avoid that because of the trait
20170119 13:05:30< zookeeper> also, doesn't need to be an F word just because the other two are
20170119 13:06:56< vultraz> Fantastic Bat 
20170119 13:07:13< UnwiseOwl> Funny bat.
20170119 13:07:25< UnwiseOwl> Futuristic Bat.
20170119 13:07:35< UnwiseOwl> It has lasers.
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20170119 13:32:23< irker359> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 7b0ebf6c5b3e / data/campaigns/Dead_Water/ (8 files in 2 dirs): DW: Assorted speaker and dialogue tweaks https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7b0ebf6c5b3e7c3c764469e5cb412b6c50f854e9
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20170119 13:33:42< loonycyborg> atarocch: this looks like incremental build to me
20170119 13:33:49< loonycyborg> can you nuke the build dir and try again?
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20170119 13:34:44< irker359> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 801ef5ab2d88 / data/campaigns/Dead_Water/scenarios/05_Tirigaz.cfg: DW: Position Marg-Tonz's treasure chest a bit better on his keep https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/801ef5ab2d88c33e646d7baa70c31aad29145e24
20170119 13:35:43< loonycyborg> objects built with different versions of boost could be involved..
20170119 13:39:18< loonycyborg> or maybe even with different versions of libstdc++
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20170119 14:06:59< gfgtdf> i wonder whether i can change theunit metatable so that i can for example add functions like unit:speak(_"sometext") ?
20170119 14:07:10< gfgtdf> from mumc code i mean
20170119 14:07:13< gfgtdf> umc
20170119 14:10:26< JyrkiVesterinen> No, you can't. The metatable is inaccessible from Lua code.
20170119 14:10:27< JyrkiVesterinen> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/scripting/lua_unit.cpp#L601-L602
20170119 14:11:20< JyrkiVesterinen> Lua's getmetatable() function returns the value of the _metatable field if it's set. In this case, it's the string "unit variables".
20170119 14:11:38< JyrkiVesterinen> Completely replacing the metatable with setmetatable() isn't allowed either.
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20170119 15:50:19< atarocch> loonycyborg, different error but still an error: https://gist.github.com/valdar/63344d272bb741a18d5b41eaa41eaeee
20170119 15:51:15< loonycyborg> atarocch: it's cutter tool
20170119 15:51:25< loonycyborg> it's not strictly needed
20170119 15:51:41< loonycyborg> in fact it's removed in git master
20170119 15:52:15< atarocch> mmmm how ended up in the source tar.gz ^^
20170119 15:52:31< loonycyborg> it was always there
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20170119 15:52:50< loonycyborg> it's just it doesn't build anymore in this verion
20170119 15:52:54< atarocch> loonycyborg, should I disbale it? should we investigate more why is failing?
20170119 15:53:04< loonycyborg> disable it
20170119 15:53:24< atarocch> I'm building with scons 
20170119 15:53:28< loonycyborg> building wesnoth, wesnothd and campaignd should be enough
20170119 15:53:46< atarocch> do you have at hand how to disable it?
20170119 15:53:57< loonycyborg> it's not built by default
20170119 15:54:39< loonycyborg> how to disable it depends on how did you enable it
20170119 15:55:21< atarocch> ahwwahwahwah
20170119 15:55:24< atarocch> yep sorry
20170119 15:55:31< atarocch> this is the scons command I use
20170119 15:56:17< atarocch> scons prefix=/usr program_suffix=-devel datadirname=wesnoth-devel prefsdir=.wesnoth-devel fifodir=/run/wesnothd-devel \
20170119 15:56:17< atarocch>   boostdir=/usr/include boostlibdir=/usr/include \
20170119 15:56:17< atarocch>   localedir=/usr/share/locale docdir=/usr/share/doc/wesnoth-devel mandir=/usr/share/man/wesnoth-devel python_site_packages_dir=/lib/python/site-packages/wesnoth all
20170119 15:56:22< atarocch> think I got it
20170119 15:56:24< atarocch> all
20170119 15:56:29< atarocch> you said 
20170119 15:56:41< atarocch> wesnoth, wesnothd and campaignd
20170119 15:56:48< atarocch> these are enough ?
20170119 15:56:57< loonycyborg> change "all" to " wesnoth, wesnothd, campaignd"
20170119 15:57:05< loonycyborg> whoops
20170119 15:57:08< loonycyborg> without commas
20170119 15:57:23< atarocch> yep know scons a little bit ^^
20170119 15:58:21< atarocch> does that include also the wesnoth editor?
20170119 15:58:34< loonycyborg> wesnoth editor is part of main game
20170119 15:58:41< atarocch> cool thanks
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20170119 16:54:23< atarocch> loonycyborg, tnx a lot that helped; good catch the one about incremental compile. Probably the original issue was the cutter one, then I've tried something, then something else and forgot to remove src/ dir
20170119 16:54:48< loonycyborg> yw
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20170119 17:09:45< Shiki> Hi atarocch 
20170119 17:10:00< atarocch> hi Shiki 
20170119 17:10:12< Shiki> some while ago i looked into the pkgbuild too, send you even an email
20170119 17:10:30< Shiki> you can ad to the scons line jobs=4 to build with 4 threads
20170119 17:10:47< atarocch> Shiki, ah must have lost that email sry
20170119 17:10:58< Shiki> atarocch, nevermind 
20170119 17:11:02< atarocch> Shiki, sounds helpful
20170119 17:16:17< Shiki> atarocch, two more thing which fit in there: with desktop_entry=False you don't have to delete the files manually 
20170119 17:16:37< atarocch> cool
20170119 17:16:51< Shiki> and PKGEXT='.pkg.tar' can be used to not compress 
20170119 17:18:51< atarocch> Shiki, all are scons options?
20170119 17:21:29< Shiki> no the last not
20170119 17:21:47< Shiki> that line can be anywhere
20170119 17:22:07< Shiki> it's actually an option from /etc/makepkg.conf atarocch 
20170119 17:22:31< atarocch> Shiki, got it thanks! gonna incorporate your suggestions
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20170119 17:23:58< Shiki> atarocch, Cool, your're welcome. 
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20170119 17:29:24< celmin|busy> (Did anyone answer my question from yesterday?)
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20170119 17:31:56< zookeeper> celmin|busy, the else/elseif one? i don't think so. i don't manage to see any semantic difference.
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20170119 17:34:03< celmin|busy> So, might it not be a problem that you can't put [else] within [elseif]?
20170119 17:37:16< zookeeper> technically maybe not, but it's so unintuitive that everyone is gonna try
20170119 17:37:46< zookeeper> so that's definitely a downside that would be nice to get fixed eventually, even if it's not exactly a pressing issue
20170119 17:37:59< celmin|busy> I suppose [else] in [elseif] could have a semantic difference if there's an additional [elseif] following...
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20170119 17:39:00< celmin|busy> Originally I was considering ways to make [elseif] behave exactly like [if], but it should be easier to just add support for [else] without suporting nested [elseif].
20170119 17:39:07< celmin|busy> ^supporting
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20170119 17:58:58< Soliton> JyrkiVesterinen: CMAKE_FLAGS "-DCXX_FLAGS_USER=std=c++11" doesn't help either.
20170119 17:59:54< JyrkiVesterinen> Hmm. It's as if CMake ignored the CMAKE_FLAGS parameter in your case. :(
20170119 18:00:29< Soliton> cmake version 3.0.2
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20170119 18:01:18< JyrkiVesterinen> I'm afraid there isn't really anything I can do. I can't reproduce the problem on my PC (to start with, I have GCC 6, which doesn't need the -std=c++11 switch).
20170119 18:01:19< Soliton> if the current settings actually fixed the build on travis a bug in cmake seems likely.
20170119 18:02:45< JyrkiVesterinen> Quick check shows that CMake 3.0 already supported the CMAKE_FLAGS parameter.
20170119 18:02:46< JyrkiVesterinen> https://cmake.org/cmake/help/v3.0/command/try_run.html
20170119 18:06:42< JyrkiVesterinen> Travis CI runs Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (trusty), which has an even older version of CMake. 2.8.12.
20170119 18:06:44< JyrkiVesterinen> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/cmake
20170119 18:07:10< Soliton> hmm, interesting
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20170119 19:00:45< JyrkiVesterinen> UX question: would it be good/okay if list boxes kept the selected item visible when you change the sorting option? (Current behavior is to scroll to top instead.)
20170119 19:01:05< JyrkiVesterinen> I'm asking because a code change I just made locally causes such an UX change.
20170119 19:01:27< JyrkiVesterinen> Maybe I should set up a pull request instead of pushing to master directly...
20170119 19:03:06< Soliton> sounds to me like keeping it visible would be nicer.
20170119 19:03:59 * zookeeper doesn't remember what a listbox is
20170119 19:06:03< zookeeper> like the hotkeys table?
20170119 19:06:49< zookeeper> that does scroll to top when changing the sorting criteria, and that's annoying
20170119 19:07:03< JyrkiVesterinen> Yes, like the hotkey table.
20170119 19:07:33< JyrkiVesterinen> My local build does not scroll to top when changing the sorting option there.
20170119 19:07:56< JyrkiVesterinen> (IOW, the hotkey table is a listbox, since the change affects it.)
20170119 19:08:24< gfgtdf> JyrkiVesterinen: does ti jump to the selcted option or does it just stay at the current scroll position?
20170119 19:08:25< zookeeper> arguably someone might also be annoyed if they have something near the top selected, change the sorting, and expect to stay at the top instead of scrolling to wherever that item now is, but... i dunno.
20170119 19:08:37< JyrkiVesterinen> gfgtdf: It jumps to selected option.
20170119 19:09:41< zookeeper> i guess the aforementioned issue would be negligible if by default nothing was selected, but apparently there must always be a selected item, meaning that changing sorting will always potentially cause the scroll position to change?
20170119 19:10:43< gfgtdf> JyrkiVesterinen: also do you itent to work on gna.org/bugs/?23752  ?
20170119 19:10:50< gfgtdf> intend*
20170119 19:10:51< JyrkiVesterinen> IIRC, it is possible for a list box to have nothing selected. However, many dialogs have an initial selection because it may be difficult to handle the "nothing selected" case.
20170119 19:11:25< zookeeper> i see
20170119 19:12:05< JyrkiVesterinen> gfgtdf: I'm not interested to work on that bug at this time. I'm currently working on the new add-on manager.
20170119 19:12:36< JyrkiVesterinen> It is because of the add-on manager that I made that change. The code change also keeps the selected add-on visible after installing it.
20170119 19:12:45< zookeeper> anyway, while my intuition immediately said "keeping selected item visible is nicer", i'm not completely sure (because of the aforementioned issue). might help if i recalled where we actually use listboxes which are so long that they might need scrolling.
20170119 19:13:34< gfgtdf> JyrkiVesterinen: iirc its no possibelt to have nothing selected, the default listbox automatically selects the the first item a soon as it added to prevent tthe listbox from habing nothign selected
20170119 19:14:09< gfgtdf> not*, having*
20170119 19:19:23< gfgtdf> github got a new change "virew blame prior to this cahnge" :)
20170119 19:19:45< gfgtdf> quite useful to find the those commits i think
20170119 19:20:44< JyrkiVesterinen> Excellent. I have wished for such a feature myself many times. :)
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20170119 19:25:36< irker921> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master 4d65344986e0 / changelog players_changelog src/gui/widgets/listbox.cpp: Make the selected item visible in listbox::layout_children() https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4d65344986e0f1e02f14051c1cf79638f9c3a0d8
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20170119 19:57:07< celticminstrel> JyrkiVesterinen: Keeping the selected item visible when changing sorting sounds great. (Though I guess I'm a bit late on this.) gfgtdf: It is possible to have a listbox with no selection - the dropdown menus are an example.
20170119 19:57:59< celticminstrel> (However, most listboxes are set to disable the option of no selection.)
20170119 19:58:10< celticminstrel> (You need has_minimum=false in the WML to enable it.)
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