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20170206 09:43:12< loonycyborg> gfgtdf: there's another thing to consider wrt automatically checking addon server
20170206 09:43:26< loonycyborg> like the fact that user can change the addon server
20170206 09:45:18< loonycyborg> for example if a subset of users is using a different addon server for whatever reason
20170206 09:45:26< loonycyborg> they might be hounded by extra warnings..
20170206 09:49:41< loonycyborg> and with clientside checking you could parallelize addon server lookups with some other task.
20170206 09:50:58< loonycyborg> all in all it seems doing it serverside will be more complex
20170206 09:52:14< loonycyborg> having wesnothd and campaignd establish a persistent connection for notifications is doable though
20170206 09:52:43< loonycyborg> and having wesnothd tap into the wml when creating game
20170206 09:52:50< loonycyborg> is doable too
20170206 09:53:09< loonycyborg> but I think is more complicated than clientside checking
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20170206 10:48:16< Soliton> don't we already have a check whether all add-ons are uptodate? that check could be done as well when/before joining the mp server.
20170206 10:49:12< Soliton> and if that check is slow because it lists all the add-ons we could just add a dedicated command that only checks the add-ons installed by that client.
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20170206 12:45:07< irker534> wesnoth: loonycyborg wesnoth:sql_prepared_statements 409eda21a428 / src/server/ (forum_user_handler.cpp forum_user_handler.hpp): Reimplement autoreconnect if sql server lost functionality https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/409eda21a4287078d209e05ac37ed0c8fa57573a
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20170206 14:12:25< zookeeper> it's really annoying how the preference changes aren't getting saved.
20170206 14:13:20< zookeeper> ah, now it got saved. complaining worked, as usual.
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20170206 15:06:47 * celticminstrel wonders if anyone is going to implement these price changes. https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=607792#p607792
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20170206 16:45:07< gfgtdf> 20170206 09:43:26< loonycyborg> like the fact that user can change the addon server
20170206 16:45:15< gfgtdf> maybe those user also us another mp server them ? not sure
20170206 16:45:23< gfgtdf> 20170206 10:49:12< Soliton> and if that check is slow because it lists all the add-ons we could just add a dedicated command that only checks the add-ons installed by that client.
20170206 16:46:12< gfgtdf> I think we dont want the clinets to sends  alist of installed addons to the server for privacy reasons, we had this in a oismilar discussion when it was about ranking addonds in the addon manager.
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20170206 16:48:08< gfgtdf> celticminstrel: not, sure do we currently have someone on your dev team who knows well about (mp) blance?
20170206 16:49:21< celticminstrel> I assume you mean "our" not "your", but I don't think there's anyone.
20170206 16:50:09< celticminstrel> Changing L3 prices shouldn't affect general MP balance since you can't buy L3 units in most MP games. The same is probably true of L2 prices - Age of Heroes isn't balanced anyway.
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20170206 16:53:04< Soliton> gfgtdf: so you install all your add-ons from the server but then you don't ever want to tell that server again what add-ons you installed for privacy reasons?
20170206 16:53:34< Soliton> and what do privacy reasons have to do with ranking add-ons?
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20170206 17:02:36< gfgtdf> Soliton: well you migth not have all your addons installed form the addon server.
20170206 17:03:12< gfgtdf> yes i mean 'our'
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20170206 17:13:33< Soliton> if that really is an actual concern it'd be trivial to make that configurable.
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20170206 17:21:52< zookeeper> celticminstrel, gfgtdf, i was waiting for some MP people to chime in on the price changes, but i guess that's not going to happen.
20170206 17:22:31< celticminstrel> Ah.
20170206 17:23:25< gfgtdf> there are also more thready ona similar issue: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=45004 and https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&p=608131#p608131
20170206 17:23:33< zookeeper> so, for what it's worth, i'm in favour of those going in. of course, i wouldn't mind if someone else actually did the work...
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20170206 17:36:00< Soliton> i've had a quick look when that post was first mentioned and it looked reasonable. if nothing changed it still is.
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20170206 17:36:56< Soliton> the general and marshal changes are perhaps a bit much since they do have better resistances.
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