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[Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170213 22:42:38< gfgtdf> ok, then i'll use lon - lua object notation 20170213 23:01:17< DeFender1031> should be easy enough to write a JSON parser for lua 20170213 23:01:43< DeFender1031> encored would be harder, as lua allows all sorts of structures that json can't accommodate 20170213 23:01:48-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@2001:44b8:254:3200:5d64:c074:ae17:9c7e] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20170213 23:03:08< DeFender1031> for example, {"0" = "string zero", 0 = "number zero"} would not encode well to JSON, given that in JSON, all keys are strings. 20170213 23:03:18< DeFender1031> encoder would be harder* 20170213 23:06:00< gfgtdf> DeFender1031: hmm yes but the reason why i asked that question was just that i had a lua data file withotu code and stuff and wondered whether i should call it a json file (.json extension) 20170213 23:06:36< sleepyminstrel> That wouldn't work even if you had a JavaScript data file without code. 20170213 23:06:46< sleepyminstrel> JSON is stricter than JS object notation. 20170213 23:10:52< DeFender1031> sleepyminstrel, JSON literally stands for JS object notation... but what I think you mean to say is that JSON is is stricter than what's allowed for javascript expressions. 20170213 23:11:20< sleepyminstrel> Yeah. 20170213 23:11:25-!- horrowind [~Icedove@2a02:810a:83c0:e4b4:21b:fcff:fee3:c3ff] has quit [Quit: horrowind] 20170213 23:11:27< DeFender1031> meaning, all JSON is a valid JS expression, but not all JS expressions are valid json. 20170213 23:11:34< sleepyminstrel> Precisely. 20170213 23:13:40< DeFender1031> json IIRC requires double-quoted strings where JS allows either single or double. JSON doesn't include the undefined keyword, JS does. JSON doesn't allow functions or variables as expressions (obviously), JS does. Possibly a couple of other things too. 20170213 23:13:54< sleepyminstrel> JS also allows unquoted keywords. 20170213 23:14:07< DeFender1031> how do you mean? 20170213 23:14:10< sleepyminstrel> ie, you can write {key: value} instead of {'key': value} 20170213 23:14:27< sleepyminstrel> As long as the key would be a valid JS identifier. 20170213 23:14:45< DeFender1031> ah, you meant "keys" not "keywords" (i think of a keyword as something lke "for" or "else") 20170213 23:14:55< DeFender1031> and yeah, that actually is a big one 20170213 23:15:06< sleepyminstrel> Yeah, I muddled up, but I meand "identifiers", not "keys". 20170213 23:15:09< sleepyminstrel> ^meant 20170213 23:15:21< sleepyminstrel> Though I think keywords are in fact valid here... 20170213 23:15:34< DeFender1031> (though I personally tend to always use quoted keys anyway) 20170213 23:15:47< sleepyminstrel> Hmm, guess not. 20170213 23:16:07< sleepyminstrel> I generally always use unquoted keys myself. 20170213 23:16:16< DeFender1031> i think it might depend on the browser. I know for a fact that i've had issues where i tried to create an un-quoted key called "for" and got into trouble. 20170213 23:16:28< DeFender1031> interesting 20170213 23:16:38< sleepyminstrel> It's valid to write x.for = 'stuff' but not valid to writ {for: 'stuff'}. 20170213 23:16:44< sleepyminstrel> ^write 20170213 23:17:42< DeFender1031> unquoted does cut down on filesize a little by using fewer characters, but 1. if you're minifying your code, any good minifier will unquote your keys for you anyway and 2. if you always quote, you'll have fewer issues in cases where something is a reserved word that you're not aware of. 20170213 23:17:58 * sleepyminstrel shrugs. 20170213 23:18:08< DeFender1031> sleepyminstrel, nope, i've had browsers explode on me for x.for as well. 20170213 23:18:22< sleepyminstrel> I don't recall it being difficult to track down those kinds of cases. 20170213 23:18:43-!- stikonas__ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20170213 23:18:52< sleepyminstrel> The error messages are generally easy to understand in that case. 20170213 23:19:13< DeFender1031> part of why though in html, it's