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20170209 13:08:55-!- Topic for #wesnoth: Check out our Discord server: https://discord.gg/tSmJS2E | Wesnoth User Channel | http://wesnoth.org | Latest stable version: 1.12.6 | Latest development version: 1.13.6 | Check the upness of Wesnoth servers: http://status.wesnoth.org | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pasteb
20170209 13:08:55-!- Topic set by iwaim [~iwaim@rasteenie.alib.jp] [Thu Dec 22 00:57:35 2016]
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20170209 13:08:55[ aeth         ] [ demok        ] [ Ivanovic    ] [ mic_e     ] [ Rhonda        ] [ Tecraus      ] 
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20170209 13:08:55[ Blukunfando  ] [ Elvish_Hunter] [ Jetrel_bot  ] [ nore      ] [ Smedles       ] [ vincent_c    ] 
20170209 13:08:55[ Bonobo       ] [ Falcon`      ] [ jurkan      ] [ noy       ] [ Soliton       ] [ Vorpal       ] 
20170209 13:08:55[ bumbadadabum ] [ frainz       ] [ knotwork    ] [ oldlaptop ] [ Soliton__     ] [ wfjf         ] 
20170209 13:08:55[ celmin-of-nod] [ Gambit       ] [ Lirion      ] [ PjotrOrial] [ starscream    ] [ Xjs|moonshine] 
20170209 13:08:55[ clavi        ] [ Guest32746   ] [ lobby       ] [ Polsaker  ] [ synthpopisback] [ Yaiyan       ] 
20170209 13:08:55[ cyphase      ] [ heyalex[m]   ] [ loonycyborg_] [ prkc      ] [ TC01          ] [ Yberitrem    ] 
20170209 13:08:55[ DDR          ] [ HeyCitizen   ] [ madmax28    ] [ RatArmy_  ] [ TC02          ] [ zookeeper    ] 
20170209 13:08:55[ DeFender1031 ] [ Ipsilon      ] [ MadMerlin   ] [ Ravana_   ] [ Technaton     ] 
20170209 13:08:55-!- Irssi: #wesnoth: Total of 71 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 71 normal]
20170209 13:08:55-!- Home page for #wesnoth: http://www.wesnoth.org
20170209 13:08:58-!- Channel #wesnoth created Sun Nov 26 06:42:43 2006
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20170209 13:15:57< wfjf> As an unbiased observer I think Tecraus is right, Rhonda's reply was rude.
20170209 13:18:33< Rhonda> In what way was my reply rude?
20170209 13:18:58< Rhonda> … whatever.  Play the victim card when I just clearified that it takes longer.
20170209 13:19:12< Soliton> wesnoth.org is up again.
20170209 13:19:50< Rhonda> I think you have no clue what rude actually is, not in the slightest, wfjf.  Your assertion that my response was rude actually is quite rude.  On the very same basis.
20170209 13:22:17< Tecraus> Please, I don't want this to continue. Let's play, shall we? Thank you Soliton for the heads up.
20170209 13:22:20< Rhonda> I don't know your agenda, but don't follow that.
20170209 13:23:10< Rhonda> Tecraus: Not sure if you are familiar with IRC, but the hostmask of zookeeper is wesnoth/developer/zookeeper which you can see with /whois zookeeper, so that might be a hint for the future. :)
20170209 13:25:14< Rhonda> You weren't called impatient, btw., and implying I would had bad intentions in my response is quite some interesting turn.
20170209 13:25:38< Rhonda> I'm not the one calling other names here.
20170209 13:27:16< Tecraus> Good to know, Rhonda. zookeeper, if you're still reading: sorry, I didn't know. All devs do amazing work and I'd like to take the opportunity to say bravo.
20170209 13:28:20< Rhonda> So if you want others to stop reading something into your questioning their responses, maybe you should start reading something into others responses too? :)
20170209 13:29:18< zookeeper> could this particular tangent please stop already?
20170209 13:29:24< Rhonda> People on the team are quite annoyed by the extended downtime, just as you.  Even more because they are emotionally more attached to the project.
20170209 13:31:05< Tecraus> One more question before I leave the chat: Can I change, somehow, the folder in which saved games are stored?
20170209 13:32:15< zookeeper> on 1.12 (and on windows) you can choose it (or at least between two locations) when installing, dunno how configurable it is on 1.13 and/or other platforms except when building yourself.
20170209 13:32:52< zookeeper> but i'm not the person who would know that anyway
20170209 13:33:55< Rhonda> Tecraus: It's in the settings → directories
20170209 13:34:33< Rhonda> Erm, Preferences → Paths  (did a manual translate from German, didn't look at the english interface at first, sorry)
20170209 13:35:29< zookeeper> you can't _change_ them there
20170209 13:36:37< Soliton> there's --userdata-dir for all platforms. need to specify that on each invocation though. so change some shortcut or whatever.
20170209 13:36:41< Rhonda> oh
20170209 13:37:20< Tecraus> I did a clean install of ubuntu mate 16.04 and waiting for the website to go up for me to see instructions of how to instal 1.12.6 I know the instal instructions are somewhere there, but I never tried to change the saves folder before.
20170209 13:37:29< Rhonda> Yep, then --userdata-dir switch is what you might want to use.
20170209 13:38:59< Rhonda> Tecraus: hmm, might need to provide an official backport for yakkety, that might make sense … :)
20170209 13:39:50< Rhonda> Tecraus: Not sure if the changes between 1.12.5 and 1.12.6 are worth the hassle though, they are compatible for multiplayer games.
20170209 13:40:10< Rhonda> vincent_c, what do you think, should we invest in providing official backports of 1.12.6 for xenial at least?
20170209 13:40:48< Rhonda> If I figure out the workflow again I might try that path …  Has been a while.
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20170209 13:44:54< Tecraus> There are some nice changes for Heir to the Throne I'd liked to see. Also, I'm a gui person. I use terminal as little as possible. Let me instal the game and search the wiki and hopefully I won't return here asking for commands. Thanks.
20170209 13:45:30< Rhonda> Out of interest, why do you want the safe games in a different place?
20170209 13:47:42< Soliton> an easier way might be to just symlink the default save dir to wherever you want it to be.
20170209 13:49:49< Tecraus> Different partition actually. I'm dual-booting and a data partition, seperate from windows, is always a good idea for security reasons. And since I do have a data partition for windows, I also use it for data coming from using linux, for better organizing them. That's why.
20170209 13:50:11< Rhonda> Right - but that's why I question the why, maybe the intention is to keep things seperated for a different reason.
20170209 13:50:53< Rhonda> Hmm.  I hope the game data is interchangeable between Windows and Linux.  Worth a try though.
20170209 13:51:11< Rhonda> You just probably have to make sure to have the same version on both systems.
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20170209 13:53:17< Soliton> savegames are platform independent.
20170209 13:54:58< Rhonda> Yes, but there is other stuff in the datadir?
20170209 13:55:58< Soliton> same with add-ons, not sure what else is there.
20170209 13:57:05< Rhonda> k
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20170209 13:58:13< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) We're getting our services back online, but there still appear to be a few small hiccups. All functionality should return soon. [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/829690871469584387 ]
20170209 14:00:02 * Soliton . o O (what small hiccups?)
20170209 14:02:38< janebot> Tweet (by @Wesnoth) Looks like everything should be up! [ https://twitter.com/Wesnoth/status/829691982968610817 ]
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20170209 17:45:53< celmin-of-nod> I want to know that too...
20170209 17:48:36< DeFender1031> Rhonda, I can attest to the fact that I have copied over a userdata dir back and forth between windows and linux (and mac too) and was able to resume my games on the other one without issue, so long as they were running the same version.
20170209 17:49:15< DeFender1031> i don't believe there is anything in there that is platform-dependant
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20170209 17:52:33< Rhonda> DeFender1031: Sweet, good to know. :)
20170209 17:53:17< Rhonda> Ah, my blurry memory was I think from the times around when compression got implemented and there was an issue with that beforehand.
20170209 17:53:36< Ravana_> other than those that have includes that only work on case insensitive filesystem
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20170209 18:03:49 * Rhonda . o O ( test-building wesnoth 1.12.6 on Ubuntu xenial (16.04) right now )
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20170209 18:41:51< Rhonda> Alright, built through, just need to find a way to test it.  xD
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