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20170325 04:52:38< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: I wonder if config::append_children could make use of std::move (or the move ctor)?
20170325 04:55:11< celticminstrel> I dunno.
20170325 04:55:56< vultraz_iOS> it seems what it's doing is slightly inefficient 
20170325 04:59:00< celticminstrel> How so?
20170325 04:59:48< vultraz_iOS> iterates through all children of config2 and calls config1.add_child
20170325 04:59:52< vultraz_iOS> on each one
20170325 05:01:45< celticminstrel> How else would you propose appending the children from one config to another?
20170325 05:02:08< vultraz_iOS> I don't know.
20170325 05:02:46< celticminstrel> Well, looking at it, I don't think moving would work. That's a different semantic.
20170325 05:03:02< celticminstrel> Particularly when you take into account that the copy constructor calls append_children.
20170325 05:08:03< vultraz_iOS> eh, I guess it's not THAT expensive
20170325 05:08:52< vultraz_iOS> just wondering, since the old storyscreen code used a "new" storyscreen instance for every [story] tag
20170325 05:09:00< vultraz_iOS> my solution is to combine them all into a single config
20170325 05:09:10< vultraz_iOS> and use one instance only
20170325 05:11:13< celticminstrel> Keep in mind that you need to be able to move around the primary story box.
20170325 05:11:28< celticminstrel> If you're doing it that way.
20170325 05:11:49< vultraz_iOS> ?
20170325 05:11:57< vultraz_iOS> what?
20170325 05:12:09< celticminstrel> Or maybe it was the title?
20170325 05:12:56< celticminstrel> Pretty sure the alignment of the title depends on the [story] tag, and ISTR that it was also possible to move the story box to the top...
20170325 05:13:56< vultraz_iOS> there's nothing under story except [part]
20170325 05:14:05< vultraz_iOS> and i can move it,
20170325 05:14:11< vultraz_iOS> just gonna need some work
20170325 05:20:12< celticminstrel> Then it depends on the content of [part]. Whatever.
20170325 05:20:34< vultraz_iOS> I haven't implemented moving yet
20170325 05:27:42< vultraz_iOS> I'm going to attempt animated moving
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20170325 05:35:58< celticminstrel> Oh my!
20170325 05:36:01< celticminstrel> Sounds like fun. :P
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20170325 12:12:33< gfgtdf> 20170325 04:52:38< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: I wonder if config::append_children could make use of std::move (or the move ctor)?
20170325 12:13:29< gfgtdf> vultraz_iOS: ye you can easily adda n overload config::append_child(config&& other), since add_child already have a n move version the code woudl be exactly the same
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20170325 17:04:36< Dawgie-Mauser> Hi, I was introduced to this project by Alfadur, a musical contributor.  I'm new to dev, and was wondering if you need any writing, artwork or midi music?
20170325 17:08:52< DeFender1031> Artwork possibly. Hey zookeeper, do we need artwork?
20170325 17:10:25< Dawgie-Mauser> Defender: Hi.
20170325 17:11:28< Dawgie-Mauser> I have only just looked at the game, and was really like the character design work, as well as the 90s style of the main game.
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20170325 17:25:36< DeFender1031> Dawgie-Mauser, Yeah, I always say that despite being open source, it's on par with the games I'd have spent good money on in the '90s and '00s.
20170325 17:26:43< DeFender1031> Probably would still spend good money on, except they don't really make games in this style anymore. Everything has to be super-realistic graphics now.
20170325 17:29:40< Dawgie-Mauser> Terraria?  Treasure Adventure?
20170325 17:30:40< celticminstrel> Though music might be nice, MIDI is unacceptable unfortunately.
20170325 17:30:42< Dawgie-Mauser> Lately, I discovered some of the 90s addy games, like Legend of Kyrandia.  In their way, their graphics are BETTER as you can see the level of illustration, and how tech was pushed to the very limit
20170325 17:32:05< Dawgie-Mauser> Celticminstrel:  I'm a violinist and we can say multi musician.  My mic and setup probably aren't good enough at the moment though.
20170325 17:32:39< Dawgie-Mauser> Man, I found my Yamaha keyboard in the trash, and it sounds like a dream.
20170325 17:33:01< Dawgie-Mauser> not a midi keyboard :) 
20170325 17:33:38< Dawgie-Mauser> if anyone knows of a good way to get sound from that there little soundhole into this here wee laptop thingey.
20170325 17:34:57< Dawgie-Mauser> My instruments:  harmonica X3, bass guitar, classical (with pickup), two violins, and various mics which I have no idea how to hook up, but will of course look into this.
20170325 17:35:10< Dawgie-Mauser> Irish tin whistles... many.
20170325 17:35:30< Dawgie-Mauser> and  Jew harp :)
20170325 17:38:06< celticminstrel> Nice.
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20170325 17:58:54< DeFender1031> That's quite an array of instruments.
20170325 17:59:15< zookeeper> Dawgie-Mauser, yes, there's certainly plenty of room for more art and writing. new music really does need to match the quality of the existing tracks, so it needs quite a lot more than just midi.
20170325 18:00:31< zookeeper> what kind of art do you do? digital painting, sort of like our portrait and story art?
20170325 18:02:54< zookeeper> if so, then the immediately obvious use for more art would be story art for campaigns. there's a lot of campaigns without any story art, and some with rather outdated or minimal art.
20170325 18:07:40< celticminstrel> It's kinda similar to my array I guess?
20170325 18:07:44< celticminstrel> In quantity, at least.
20170325 18:07:58< celticminstrel> Some overlap, even.
20170325 18:08:14< celticminstrel> Like the tin whistle. :P
20170325 18:10:47< zookeeper> also, in story art the artist has quite a bit of room to decide what kind of exact style they want to employ, and it's easy to plan exactly how many images are needed, so a set of story art for a single campaign is something that we can draw up very specific specs for if necessary.
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20170325 18:19:06< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?25625
20170325 18:21:34< zookeeper> writing is something that i do constantly wish we had a person devoted to, but that tends to require one to be very familiar with the existing lore and history and all that.
20170325 18:22:02< celticminstrel> ie someone who, unlike me, has played all the campaigns more than once. :P
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20170325 18:28:06< zookeeper> yeah, well, not necessarily "played all campaigns and knows everything" but at least a reasonably good understanding of the world.
20170325 18:29:12< zookeeper> without that it's pretty impossible to know that one is not contradicting something else when coming up with something new.
20170325 18:31:47< zookeeper> Jetrel_bot, https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=609942#p609942
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20170325 18:37:40< irker532> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master 74083a2f89bd / src/gui/widgets/scrollbar_container.cpp: MP create: fix scrollbar not appearing in the SP campaign list https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/74083a2f89bd68df08676cdc78b4a29e9de99122
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20170325 20:03:04< irker532> wesnoth: Severin Glöckner wesnoth:master d1b9dde7986a / data/campaigns/The_Hammer_of_Thursagan/units/ (Dwarvish_Annalist.cfg Dwarvish_Loremaster.cfg Dwarvish_Witness.cfg): changed morningstar to morning star https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d1b9dde7986a765e2c0153fa0b0245233293c264
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20170325 20:27:28< Shiki> zookeeper, anyything about the other PR ?
20170325 20:29:44< irker532> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:CelticMinstrel-patch-1 528a41c0cd14 / src/scripting/game_lua_kernel.cpp: Fix [animate_unit]text= rejecting translatable strings (GNA25625) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/528a41c0cd14b525de7e176d5aff81b082b2f298
20170325 20:29:47< celticminstrel> vultraz_iOS: ^
20170325 20:29:57< celticminstrel> You can merge that if the Travis passes.
20170325 20:30:11< vultraz_iOS> ok
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20170325 20:56:40< zookeeper> Shiki, yes
20170325 20:56:43< irker532> wesnoth: Severin Glöckner wesnoth:master 9ff0137ca17b / data/campaigns/Heir_To_The_Throne/ (scenarios/19c_Cliffs_of_Thoria.cfg units/Injured_Sergeant.cfg): HttT S19c: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9ff0137ca17b8d50c709b3a865f8d1fdbfb4f51d
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20170325 21:37:51< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#13077 (CelticMinstrel-patch-1 - 528a41c : Celtic Minstrel): The build passed.
20170325 21:37:51< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/215059727
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