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Women have access to pro choice policy, but men are basically at the mercy of women. Another way of looking at it is that men cannot disavow fatherhood without the permission of a woman. Unlike men, women may avail themselves of either safe haven adoption or abortion, if they so choose to disavow motherhood. What would the world be like if women had to have the permission of 20170423 13:03:14< wesnoth-discord-> a man to become (or not become) mothers? 20170423 13:13:50< zookeeper> well this sure sounds awfully random. 20170423 13:18:01-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F6D80CF615EC032E3CE3257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 13:19:45-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@cpe-71-68-224-186.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 13:20:42< wesnoth-discord-> It's inextricably linked to the carceral state and the welfare state. It has a lot to do with modern racism, but the context extends to other areas as well. 20170423 13:26:41-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 13:29:54-!- Jetrel [~Jetrel@2001:558:6014:1e:2422:435:dd84:bbf3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170423 13:30:52-!- Jetrel_ [~Jetrel@2001:558:6014:1e:2422:435:dd84:bbf3] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 13:45:24-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170423 14:35:10-!- vultraz_iOS [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 15:08:16-!- jemadux [~jemadux@unaffiliated/jemadux] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 15:41:13-!- ion_nsk_region [~user@95.191.228.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20170423 16:22:49-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F6D80CF615EC032E3CE3257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170423 16:26:08-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DED1B0D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 16:54:44-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170423 17:03:32-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@wesnoth/developer/bumbadadabum] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 17:11:44-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F6D80CF615EC032E3CE3257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 17:14:06-!- sevu [~Unknown@pD954CDB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 17:44:38< celticminstrel> I assume that was a troll. 20170423 17:45:55< wesnoth-discord-> I've been playing Wesnoth for over 10 years, but nice try. 20170423 17:53:23< celticminstrel> Well, suddenly bringing up a charged political topic out of nowhere is very much a troll thing to do, so you can't blame me for thinking it. 20170423 17:54:38< wesnoth-discord-> No, I don't blame you. Vultraz brought up his/her interest in politics. This issue has been on my mind for some time, so I was wondering if anyone else is grappling with the meaning of "choice." Apparently, it has a different meaning for men and women. 20170423 18:04:22< DeFender1031> This might not be the best place for that kind of discussion. 20170423 18:04:45< DeFender1031> And by that I mean, this is not a good place for that discussion. 20170423 18:08:01< wesnoth-discord-> You're right, it's not. I find that this environment is much more civil than the traditional venues. So, pardon me for seeking civility in the wrong place. 20170423 18:09:58< DeFender1031> That, at least is true. On the other hand, to maintain civility, it's probably best to avoid topics which are not related to wesnoth and which could easily trigger some heated opinions. Why tempt fate? 20170423 18:10:14< zookeeper> i submit to your consideration that this environment is much more civil than the traditional venues _because_ we tend to avoid charged political topics :p 20170423 18:11:07< zookeeper> and i say this as someone who in principle likes discussing charged political topics 20170423 18:11:14< DeFender1031> zookeeper, well, sometimes various decisions on wesnoth changes can get political, but that at least is internal politics, and everyone more or less maintains an understanding that we're after the same goal. 20170423 18:12:47< DeFender1031> (Namely, to make wesnoth a better game.) 20170423 18:13:32< wesnoth-discord-> I agree. My comment was not meant to be an ironic implication about the channel being the wrong place to be civil. I think what I'm trying to say is that our discussion about the game is the primary concern, which is by and large a sexless discussion isolated from human nature. 20170423 18:19:26< wesnoth-discord-> Is there any kind of EULA for this chat? I received an invitation in game chat and I assume that the same rules that apply to Wesnoth informally apply as guidelines here. 20170423 18:21:57< DeFender1031> basically, "don't be a jerk" and you're pretty much fine. 20170423 18:25:09-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@pl5982.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170423 18:36:42-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20170423 18:36:43-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@46-116-90-83.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170423 18:37:06-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@46-116-90-83.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 19:38:13-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@pl6322.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 19:43:35-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F6D80CF615EC032E3CE3257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170423 20:38:24-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@46-116-90-83.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170423 20:38:44-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@46-116-90-83.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 20:42:00-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 20:44:16-!- sevu [~Unknown@pD954CDB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170423 20:46:36< cyphase> are there any recommended playing orders for the campaigns? perhaps that balance difficulty for a beginner with storyline 20170423 20:47:16< cyphase> not a huge deal, but figured i'd check 20170423 20:53:52< celticminstrel> IIRC, the best beginner scenarios are A Tale of Two Brothers and An Orcish Incursion, but ISTR that neither have a particularly deep story... 20170423 20:54:03< celticminstrel> HTTT is considered a beginner scenario too, of course. 20170423 21:14:14-!- HeyCitizen [~citizen@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/heycitizen] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170423 21:40:59-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170423 21:43:10-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 21:59:41-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170423 22:03:30-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 22:21:35-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 22:46:13-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170423 23:00:24-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 23:16:50-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170423 23:17:10-!- zookeeper [zookeeper@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170423 23:25:33-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20170423 23:42:10-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170423 23:47:12-!- RatArmy_ [~ratarmy@om126237124026.9.openmobile.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Mon Apr 24 00:00:20 2017