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20170517 00:09:56< vultraz_iOS> oh yeah, we need to finish updating contributions.md
20170517 00:09:59< vultraz_iOS> and/or the wiki page
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20170517 00:42:52< celmin|sleep> vultraz_iOS: I can't really think of specific things to add to release notes, but I'll post some vague suggestions to the thread.
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20170517 01:24:20< vultraz_iOS> blah. was gonna add a thing then i realized i don't need to add the thing
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20170517 01:24:24< irker937> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master a2e99d64b27d / src/gui/core/linked_group_definition.cpp: Some random refactoring on linked_group_definition https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a2e99d64b27dd57b81672b035fcf07c3d7d8612c
20170517 01:24:24< irker937> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master ad355d5a8206 / src/image.cpp: Image: code formatting https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ad355d5a8206d292d494a62ea95935e13a75912c
20170517 01:24:25< irker937> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 597099abb6ab / src/image.cpp: Image: code cleanup https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/597099abb6abab6b9bb0d57b7178be541a6554e0
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20170517 01:35:08< celticminstrel> Wonder if we can remove sdl::create_rect... though if using {...} instead requires static_casts, I'd prefer create_rect.
20170517 01:35:59< vultraz_iOS> we can't since sometimes you get narrowing conversion
20170517 01:36:26< celticminstrel> That's probably what I meant about static_casts.
20170517 01:37:05< celticminstrel> I wish we could use the auto [iter, success] = image_existence_map.emplace(...) syntax, but I guess that won't even be available in 1.15.
20170517 01:37:19< vultraz_iOS> the whatnow?
20170517 01:37:35< celticminstrel> Basically declaring variables and std::tie in the same line.
20170517 01:37:48< vultraz_iOS> ooo
20170517 01:37:55< vultraz_iOS> is that c++17 tho?
20170517 01:38:05< celticminstrel> I don't actually know if C++17 is officially finalized yet.
20170517 01:38:08< celticminstrel> Yes it is C++17.
20170517 01:38:10< vultraz_iOS> it is
20170517 01:42:07< vultraz_iOS> well
20170517 01:42:11< vultraz_iOS> feature complete
20170517 01:43:03< vultraz_iOS> "The committee has completed work on C++17, which is now in its final ISO balloting process"
20170517 01:43:17< celticminstrel> So not quite finalized yet.
20170517 01:43:49< vultraz_iOS> i have no idea what "ISO balloting" is tho
20170517 01:43:59< celticminstrel> I dunno either.
20170517 01:44:04< celticminstrel> Did you read my forum post?
20170517 01:44:35< vultraz_iOS> http://www.bfilipek.com/2017/01/cpp17features.html 
20170517 01:44:36< vultraz_iOS> useful a'f
20170517 01:44:41< vultraz_iOS> what forum post?
20170517 01:44:46< celticminstrel> On the forum.
20170517 01:44:51< vultraz_iOS> ...................
20170517 01:44:57< vultraz_iOS> is it also a post :|
20170517 01:45:01< celticminstrel> Yup.
20170517 01:45:08< celticminstrel> In the draft announcement thread.
20170517 01:46:06< vultraz_iOS> you know you can insert those directly right
20170517 01:46:53< celticminstrel> I know.
20170517 01:48:10< vultraz_iOS> (looks like that feature you want is "Decomposition declarations" and not yet available in MSVC)
20170517 01:48:28< vultraz_iOS> but is available in GCC7 and Clang 4
20170517 01:50:10< vultraz_iOS> msvc always so behind ;_;
20170517 01:52:45< celticminstrel> Ah, even MSVC 2017 lacks it then, huh?
20170517 01:53:06< vultraz_iOS> i guess
20170517 01:53:21< vultraz_iOS> i think when the article lists "MSVC: 15.0" it means 2017, and since it lists nothing then I assume not
20170517 01:54:40< vultraz_iOS> i assume once we bump our compiler mins we'll require the latest version of 2015?
20170517 01:55:24< vultraz_iOS> ie, update 3
20170517 01:57:02< celticminstrel> Who knows!
20170517 01:57:15< celticminstrel> Bit early to discuss that sort of thing, anyway.
20170517 01:59:56< celticminstrel> So anyway, about the release announcement, please do one of the following: 1) edit some of the stuff I mentioned into the post; 2) comment on whether it should be edited into the post, and wait until discussion has occurred and it has been edited into the post (or determined unnecessary); 3) get someone else to edit it into the post.
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20170517 02:57:02< vultraz_iOS> ill work on it
20170517 02:57:11< celticminstrel> Yay.
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20170517 03:30:16< pydsigner> vultraz_iOS: also you're going to need to ready your licensing speech for the release notes and front page
20170517 03:30:50< vultraz_iOS> I don't have a speech
20170517 03:31:17< vultraz_iOS> I suppose I can prepare a statement
20170517 03:31:26< vultraz_iOS> Since your text allows all cc licenses it's simple
20170517 03:32:35< vultraz_iOS> (Was that indeed your intention? All licenses?)
20170517 03:34:29< vultraz_iOS> pydsigner:
20170517 03:34:53< pydsigner> yes
20170517 03:36:40< pydsigner> I suggest mentioning setting the default forum license to CC BY SA 4.0
20170517 03:36:54< pydsigner> We need to discuss when that will happen though
20170517 03:37:05< pydsigner> 1.14 release day?
20170517 03:37:17< pydsigner> July 1st?
20170517 03:38:37< pydsigner> June 1st?
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20170517 04:01:45< JyrkiVesterinen> 20170517 01:35:08< celticminstrel> Wonder if we can remove sdl::create_rect... though if using {...} instead requires static_casts, I'd prefer create_rect.
20170517 04:01:59< JyrkiVesterinen> Casts shouldn't be needed most of the time.
20170517 04:02:16< JyrkiVesterinen> SDL_Rect calues are ints, and data types larger than ints are rare.
20170517 04:02:27< JyrkiVesterinen> *values
20170517 04:14:16< JyrkiVesterinen> ...what? Ignoring unknown attributes is new in C++17?
20170517 04:15:19< JyrkiVesterinen> I had thought it to be the case since C++11, given that even C++11 allowed vendor-specific attribute namespaces, *and* recommended that attributes don't have any semantic meaning (i.e. can be safely ignored).
20170517 04:16:30< JyrkiVesterinen> I suppose we're going to need those attribute macros (such as FALLTHROUGH) until we can require C++17 everywhere...
20170517 04:16:38< JyrkiVesterinen> Sigh. Macros are ugly. :(
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20170517 04:23:30< irker937> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master 9eae9eac3c30 / src/ (ai/formula/candidates.cpp scripting/lua_audio.cpp): Fix MSVC compiler warnings about hiding declarations https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9eae9eac3c30323ad281538b8f815c29e10c57c8
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20170517 11:42:03< irker470> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 447968246940 / src/ (21 files in 10 dirs): Convert uses of create_rect to aggregate initialization when possible https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/447968246940bfb9d22bd9128522341b7003ef2a
20170517 11:42:03< irker470> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 5e6e8eab6f24 / src/ (display.cpp display.hpp game_display.cpp units/drawer.cpp units/drawer.hpp): Made energy_bar_rects static in unit_drawer file (superior version of 1ff1b7fdd) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5e6e8eab6f24723b4ecb6294db49080db0fbeec2
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20170517 11:59:35< irker470> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 9585a58a2d2f / src/ (23 files in 11 dirs): Use direct or aggregate initialization in a bunch more places I've generally mis https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9585a58a2d2f09b5402f3f6e7b81496a1e7734d4
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20170517 19:28:28< vultraz_iOS> celmin|sleep: am I reading this class wrong, or is it basically just a wrapper around iterator dereferencing that outputs the result of a specified wrapper function? https://github.com/Vultraz/wesnoth/blob/master/src/utils/iterator.hpp#L48
20170517 19:29:05< vultraz_iOS> a weird lambda-eaq thing, ie.
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20170517 19:32:22< vultraz_iOS> so you have an iterator that works as normal but derefing it returns the result of the specified function?
20170517 19:33:18< vultraz_iOS> (which takes the iterator as input)
20170517 19:58:07< JyrkiVesterinen> AppVeyor builds seem to be fixed. :) (Only VS2015 debug build is left, all others have already finished.)
20170517 19:58:36< JyrkiVesterinen> (As expected, since I tested my fixes myself with all three Visual Studio versions.)
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20170517 20:46:47< vultraz_iOS> all three, you say? :o
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20170517 21:17:05< gfgtdf> do you think one woudl want to run finters with [insert_tag] that depnd onj the unit? like [filter][insert_tag] variable="$this_unit.variables.customfilter" ? I'm thinking about optimsaing filters and keeping tihs one owudl be rather hard
20170517 21:21:02< vultraz_iOS> i don't know
20170517 21:21:20< gfgtdf> celmin|sleep: also i wonder is there some way to access the current unit beeing filtered on on furmlau in $() cases?
20170517 21:21:27< gfgtdf> celmin|sleep: for example in  radius="$($this_unit.moves + min($i,$this_unit.moves))"
20170517 21:21:58< gfgtdf> celmin|sleep: can i rewrite that somehow that it doesn't need to store the current unit and indtead us ea foruml way to get this_unit.moves 
20170517 21:24:42< gfgtdf> celmin|sleep: if this was in formula i could just write formula="$(moves + min($i,moves))", so my question is whether i can as in formula use a similar syntax in radius="$(..formula..)"
20170517 21:47:16< zookeeper> gfgtdf, WRT the [insert_tag] question, sure that seems plausible. but of course it'll be _rare_ to do so and i don't recall if i've ever done or seen that anywhere.
20170517 21:50:21< zookeeper> so would your change really be limited just to "$this_unit won't ever be available inside [insert_tag]"?
20170517 21:50:45< zookeeper> or would that affect other auto-stored variables too like $unit or $weapon?
20170517 21:53:23< DeFender1031> what's the question on [insert_tag]?
20170517 21:54:29< gfgtdf> zookeeper: no it'd maybe make evaluate [insert_tag] when the 'filter' object is constructed instead of when it is applied to a single unit.so other variables woudl still work
20170517 21:57:05< zookeeper> gfgtdf, okay. hard to say how annoying that kind of limitation could end up being in some situation. if you have an event filter then you can't easily first copy the customfilter into a normal variable, for example.
20170517 22:00:31< zookeeper> how big of an optimization would it be..?
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20170517 23:12:58< gfgtdf> zookeeper: I'd have to test
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