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20170526 00:12:45< celmin|sleep> SigurdFD: I added libcrypto to scons before even merging that branch.
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20170526 00:50:18< irker107> wesnoth: Celtic Minstrel wesnoth:master 132790bf654c / src/gui/widgets/multimenu_button.cpp: Fix #1721 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/132790bf654c50b5a3549abe0f2d0ebfe15e3aee
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20170526 00:53:43< celticminstrel> Looks like one person besides myself said they use OSX 10.7...
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20170526 01:11:25< vultraz_iOS> many much curses
20170526 01:12:18< celticminstrel> ?
20170526 01:12:33< vultraz_iOS> my accelerated rendering work is not progressing well
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20170526 01:44:07< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:accelerated_rendering 4f0f7cdc5deb / src/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Bunch of WIP work to get HW rendering working for GUI2 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4f0f7cdc5debe6719f0ed9fdd7139327672ae5d8
20170526 01:44:40< celticminstrel> I assume you don't plan to merge this in 1.14.
20170526 01:46:11< vultraz_iOS> probably not
20170526 01:46:53< celticminstrel> I see you commented out the scaling and tiling.
20170526 01:47:15< celticminstrel> You do still need to have it, even though it's done completely differently with HW rendering.
20170526 01:47:15< vultraz_iOS> textures are stretched to fit the given rect
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20170526 01:47:23< vultraz_iOS> automatically
20170526 01:47:28< vultraz_iOS> granted the result is slightly grainy
20170526 01:47:29< celticminstrel> Well, I wouldn't quite describe it like that.
20170526 01:48:01< vultraz_iOS> all this surface manipulation is supposed to be done with shaders apparently
20170526 01:48:18< celticminstrel> Assuming the currenty way is not grainy, you can presumably install a shader with your preferred scaling algorithm.
20170526 01:48:34< celticminstrel> No shaders required for basic transformations though/
20170526 01:48:52< celticminstrel> Scaling, tiling, probably even mirroring, just require setting the texture coordinates appropriately.
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20170526 01:49:13< vultraz_iOS> SDL_RenderCopyEx is for flipping/rotating
20170526 01:50:09< celticminstrel> If it's not possible by just setting texcoords, rotating/mirroring should be easy in the shader.
20170526 01:50:31< vultraz_iOS> drawing th eimages every frame is still too expensive
20170526 01:50:48< vultraz_iOS> i need to figure out how to implement a new dirty flag
20170526 01:51:03< celticminstrel> I doubt you need a dirty flag with hardware rendering.
20170526 01:51:13< vultraz_iOS> I just said the images are still too expensive
20170526 01:51:40< celticminstrel> I'd guess you're doing something else wrong, then.
20170526 01:51:58< vultraz_iOS> duh
20170526 01:52:27< vultraz_iOS> im not even sure why
20170526 01:52:37< vultraz_iOS> surface creation didn't seem to be that expensive
20170526 01:52:42< vultraz_iOS> manipulation was
20170526 01:53:16< vultraz_iOS> i mean, the damn surface is supposed to be cached
20170526 01:54:58< vultraz_iOS> jyrki keeps telling me to cache the result of the image loads in a single texture but *i can't figure out how*
20170526 01:56:42< celticminstrel> This goes into that whole "spritesheet" thing.
20170526 01:57:05< celticminstrel> It's totally possible to build the spritesheet up internally as images are loaded.
20170526 01:57:41< celticminstrel> Or, rather than spritesheet, it should probably be called a "texture atlas".
20170526 01:58:19< celticminstrel> This leads to the 2D packing problem, which IIRC is a hard problem.
20170526 01:58:46< celticminstrel> You could simplify it a little (at the cost of some wasted space) by assuming all images are 72x72 or so.
20170526 01:58:52< celticminstrel> (Or whatever other size you prefer.)
20170526 01:59:12< celticminstrel> Obviously there's a few bigger ones which would then need to be treated specially.
20170526 01:59:27< celticminstrel> (Maybe taking up multiple slots, or not placed on the atlas at all.)
20170526 02:03:11< DeFender1031> can't you calculate the size of each cell on the atlas as the maximum in each direction?
20170526 02:03:22< celticminstrel> ?
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20170526 02:03:43< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#13970 (master - 132790b : Celtic Minstrel): The build has errored.
20170526 02:03:43< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/236215985
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20170526 02:04:17< DeFender1031> meaning, the width that you'd need for each cell is whatever the largest width of any image used is. Same goes for height, no?
20170526 02:04:42< celticminstrel> Well, if you want to waste 80% of the space, sure.
20170526 02:05:04< celticminstrel> The largest images are generally exceptions. There are lots of small images and very few large ones.
20170526 02:05:24< celticminstrel> The majority of images are probably 72x72, which is why I suggested that as the cell size.
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20170526 02:08:06< celticminstrel> I am currently in the process of installing clang 4 on my Mac.
20170526 02:08:22< celticminstrel> It's a process that involves first installing clang 3.4 (already done) and clang 3.7 (in progess).
20170526 02:09:21< celticminstrel> If this works out, maybe my scons Wesnoth build will behave itself more.
20170526 02:09:33< celticminstrel> ^progress
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20170526 02:22:14< DeFender1031> well, another option would be to make two spritesheets, one for typically sized images and another for outliers.
20170526 02:22:26< celticminstrel> That is indeed another option.
20170526 02:22:31< DeFender1031> or just skip the spritesheets entirely for huge images.
20170526 02:22:41< celticminstrel> That too is another option.
20170526 02:23:01< celticminstrel> You could also have multiple atlases for common sizes - 72x72, 64x64, or whatever.
20170526 02:24:13< DeFender1031> well 72x72 is by far the most common.
20170526 02:24:24< DeFender1031> So you could start with just an atlas for 72x72 stuff
20170526 02:24:34< DeFender1031> perhaps also including stuff that's an even multiple of that.
20170526 02:24:55< DeFender1031> (eg: 144x72)
20170526 02:25:24< celticminstrel> Even allowing multiples of it significantly increases the complexity of the packing algorithm.
20170526 02:25:37< DeFender1031> hmm... good point
20170526 02:26:00< DeFender1031> well, even if it's JUST handling 72x72 and smaller, that's already a very large portion of the images.
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20170526 02:38:56< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#13971 (accelerated_rendering - 4f0f7cd : Charles Dang): The build is still failing.
20170526 02:38:56< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/236224001
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20170526 02:48:12< vultraz_iOS> i dunno how anura does it but they don't care about the cell sizes of spritesheet members
20170526 02:48:23< vultraz_iOS> tho their sheets waste a lot of space but still
20170526 02:50:30< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: did we ever set up GitReports?
20170526 02:50:42< celticminstrel> vultraz_iOS: We did not.
20170526 02:50:50< celticminstrel> The issue is still open, too.
20170526 02:53:05< celticminstrel> Oh, looks like it finally started installing clang 3.7 (before that it was installing llvm 3.7 as a dependency).
20170526 03:18:12< vultraz_iOS> what the heck is the color 0xFFFFFFFU
20170526 03:20:40< vultraz_iOS> white, but what's the U
20170526 03:21:28< shadowm> Unsigned integer literal.
20170526 03:21:59< shadowm> In C++11, 12U is an unsigned int, 12UL is an unsigned long, 12ULL is an unsigned long long.
20170526 03:22:18< shadowm> (12L is a long and 12LL is a long long, naturally.)
20170526 03:22:55< vultraz_iOS> I see
20170526 03:24:48< shadowm> Also be aware that 0777 is an octal integer literal and 0b0111 (C++14) is a binary integer literal.
20170526 03:27:43< vultraz_iOS> well, looks like in this case I need FFFFFFFF anyway
20170526 03:27:45< shadowm> Also note that the signedness and size suffixes can also be lowercase.
20170526 03:28:01< shadowm> (Although lL and Ll are illegal.)
20170526 03:29:53< shadowm> While we are at it, a floating point literal suffixed with f or F is a float, and with l or L a long double.
20170526 03:30:31< shadowm> And a string literal prefixed with L is a wide string literal.
20170526 03:31:00< celticminstrel> There's also 0xCAFEp+5
20170526 03:31:09< vultraz_iOS> jesus christ
20170526 03:31:17< celticminstrel> As of C++14 IIRC?
20170526 03:31:58< celticminstrel> 0xF00D.CAFEp+5
20170526 03:32:36< shadowm> I never heard of that and it seems to be C++17.
20170526 03:32:43< celticminstrel> Ah.
20170526 03:32:43< vultraz_iOS> jesus christ
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20170526 03:55:51< SigurdFD> celticminstrel: I can't seem to get libcrypto added correctly. I'm using the bin & dev packs from http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/openssl.htm I've tried dumping the packs in with gtk+ & the complier. Any suggestions?
20170526 03:56:51< celticminstrel> So what's the problem? Configuration fails?
20170526 03:57:15< SigurdFD> the current error is "src\hash.cpp:20:25: fatal error: openssl/sha.h: No such file or directory
20170526 03:57:15< SigurdFD> compilation terminated."
20170526 03:57:32< shadowm> 0.9.8h.
20170526 03:57:38< SigurdFD> yes
20170526 03:57:40< shadowm> That's very old.
20170526 03:58:02< shadowm> Does it actually have an openssl/sha.h header?
20170526 03:58:06< SigurdFD> yes
20170526 03:58:19< vultraz_iOS> i got binaries from somewhere else
20170526 03:58:37< vultraz_iOS> https://slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html
20170526 03:58:41< shadowm> I crosscompiled the original sources for 1.1.something.
20170526 03:58:48< vultraz_iOS> second dl
20170526 03:58:52< shadowm> -rw-r--r-- 1 shadowm shadowm 5202247 May 24 23:32 Downloads/openssl-1.1.0e.tar.gz
20170526 03:59:05< celticminstrel> Is SigurdFD on Windows?
20170526 03:59:10< SigurdFD> yes
20170526 03:59:40< celticminstrel> Using GCC?
20170526 03:59:45< celticminstrel> And MinGW?
20170526 03:59:50< vultraz_iOS> that binary works with gcc
20170526 03:59:51< SigurdFD> yes & yes
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20170526 04:00:09< celticminstrel> So did you dump it in MinGW\lib and MinGW\include?
20170526 04:00:12< vultraz_iOS> download it, copy the lib/include/dlls to the appropriate places
20170526 04:00:14< vultraz_iOS> that's it
20170526 04:00:29< celticminstrel> And wherever the dlls go, I dunno.
20170526 04:00:32< SigurdFD> yeah, I'm pretty sure I did all that
20170526 04:00:43< SigurdFD> maybe i'll try a newer version
20170526 04:01:32< vultraz_iOS> the one i linked is the much newer 1.1.0
20170526 04:02:16 * celticminstrel assumes the headers are in MinGW\include\openssl\*.h
20170526 04:02:46< SigurdFD> yes
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20170526 04:08:18< SigurdFD> 0.98h might be my problem. I see a bunch of stuff in 1.1.0 that's not in 0.98
20170526 04:08:45< celticminstrel> I wouldn't expect it to be your problem, but who knows.
20170526 04:10:31< shadowm> I certainly wouldn't expect it to be the problem since you just said the file exists.
20170526 04:16:39< shadowm> "Unfortunately, official Wesnoth builds for Windows don’t provide debug symbols, so call backtraces on that platform tend to be nearly useless"
20170526 04:17:02< shadowm> I wonder if it'd be too much work for loonycyborg to make a separate debug build and package it without DLLs or data files.
20170526 04:18:01< shadowm> Of course, the big question is whether Windows' builtin error reporting can provide any useful data from a debug build or people would still need to download Yet Another Thing™ to obtain it.
20170526 04:19:24< SigurdFD> my debug build broke months ago, so I would not expect it to be of any help
20170526 04:19:42< shadowm> I mean as a more general thing, not for one punctual release.
20170526 04:19:57< SigurdFD> ok
20170526 04:20:59< shadowm> I don't know of anyone who urgently needs one right now, but in the future it'd be nice if we could tell people to download a zip file instead of building their own version.
20170526 04:21:19< shadowm> But again, is that enough to get a coherent backtrace on Windows?
20170526 04:21:39< shadowm> *Without* gdb or MSVC installed, that is.
20170526 04:22:01< SigurdFD> what versions are people here using of OpenSSL for their windows builds?
20170526 04:22:12< vultraz_iOS> im using 1.1.0
20170526 04:22:34< SigurdFD> did you do the install dll into the windows/system directory?
20170526 04:22:48< vultraz_iOS> no
20170526 04:22:54< vultraz_iOS> i have it in my wesnoth root folder
20170526 04:23:04< celticminstrel> Oh, clang 3.7 finished building.
20170526 04:23:04< shadowm> Same.
20170526 04:23:29< shadowm> In general, don't install DLLs into system directories unless you are 100% positive that it's necessary for some purpose.
20170526 04:24:30< SigurdFD> yeah, I attempt to follow that.
20170526 04:24:31< celticminstrel> SigurdFD: I think I was using 1.0, but maybe it was something older.
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20170526 04:25:48< shadowm> Additionally, I can confirm that version 1.0.2k is sufficient on Linux.
20170526 04:29:48< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 3c83cfc46cc5 / src/sdl/window.cpp: Window (SDL): set default renderer blend mode to BLEND https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3c83cfc46cc5ec60b2265bb0603a67be419282ff
20170526 04:29:51< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 95a3883aabbd / src/playsingle_controller.cpp: Use sdl::window::fill instead of draw_solid_tinted_rectangle where appropriate https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/95a3883aabbd2365f6dadc5cd16925d71af8ef70
20170526 04:29:54< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 4cbd6529e3d5 / src/ (9 files in 6 dirs): Refactored rectangle drawing primitive utils https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4cbd6529e3d5f378d4dd0080dda8a47025b0d50d
20170526 04:29:57< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 4f48d09ac880 / src/sdl/rect.cpp: Rect utils: minor code cleanup https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4f48d09ac8802e3d4da50e1902617a2f87b3d8ff
20170526 04:32:10< celticminstrel> Hilariously, autoconf seems to be building with scons.
20170526 04:32:45< shadowm>     00:32:13 shadowm@hanacore ~/src/wesnoth/win32-x-run git:master % du -h ../scons-win32-crosscompile/wesnoth-debug.exe
20170526 04:32:48< shadowm>     1.2G    ../scons-win32-crosscompile/wesnoth-debug.exe
20170526 04:32:49< shadowm> Wheee
20170526 04:34:05< celticminstrel> Big!
20170526 04:34:13< vultraz_iOS> bigly
20170526 04:35:41< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: it comes from 255 * 0.1
20170526 04:36:01< celticminstrel> Don't you think it makes more sense to respond to things in the same place they were asked?
20170526 04:36:51< celticminstrel> Oh, I see, that's a colour. For some reason I thought it was a rectangle.
20170526 04:37:19< celticminstrel> Maybe because the function is fill_rectangle yet has no other rectangle argument. Or wait. location() is a rectangle. WTH.
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20170526 05:16:33< JyrkiVesterinen> 20170526 04:22:01< SigurdFD> what versions are people here using of OpenSSL for their windows builds?
20170526 05:16:43< JyrkiVesterinen> The aquileia/external repository has 1.0.1f.
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20170526 05:36:44< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master a221d40abf1f / src/display.cpp: Clean up display::clear_screen https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a221d40abf1fe0379fb069a3f7fc23a50af364eb
20170526 05:36:47< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 4b95691660db / src/ (display.cpp widgets/textbox.cpp widgets/textbox.hpp): Use fill_rectangle over fill_rect when possible https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4b95691660dbd32d2665a156f54d14b878a5881b
20170526 05:36:50< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 078a4f6a646c / src/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Renamed fill_rect fill_surface_rect to better distinguish it https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/078a4f6a646ccba90e65f0e42f6be8ba2e831f85
20170526 05:36:53< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master ffbaa84a4b72 / src/sdl/ (rect.cpp rect.hpp): Marked create_rect inline and updated its documentation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/ffbaa84a4b72b97b1366bc377e65f53aefeabbd6
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20170526 05:46:57< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#13972 (master - 4f48d09 : Charles Dang): The build has errored.
20170526 05:46:57< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/236246864
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20170526 05:53:56< SigurdFD> JyrkiVesterinen: I'll take a look at it.
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20170526 06:35:27< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 4d616fd0f9ca / src/serialization/string_utils.cpp: Fixup 40b4328e44 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4d616fd0f9ca7b1ca4bc8b86be11dd34c4eb3f8b
20170526 06:49:06< zookeeper> to my somewhat-non-gfx-programmer-mind it sounds sane to have different atlases for differently sized images. such a huge number of images are of standard sizes, like 72x72, 400x400, 126x144, etc.
20170526 06:50:32< zookeeper> you could even specify the size thresholds in WML if you wanted
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20170526 07:10:51 * zookeeper looks at that thread in ideas
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20170526 07:10:56< zookeeper> O.o
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20170526 09:34:47< irker107> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master fa3a90dfc218 / / (8 files in 7 dirs): updated Scottish Gaelic translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/fa3a90dfc218a81aa14ae520cea96dec5745d98c
20170526 09:34:49< irker107> wesnoth: Nils Kneuper wesnoth:master da248a8a7dbb / changelog players_changelog po/wesnoth/pl.po: updated Polish translation https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/da248a8a7dbb7c111202dec974094ca58281f423
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20170526 11:14:50< irker107> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 14f6238834b6 / src/gui/ (core/widget_definition.cpp widgets/settings.cpp): GUI2: moved state_definition ctor definiton to the appropriate file https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/14f6238834b6e50c97a39dbfefc6c4f627b17092
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20170526 11:56:01< celmin|sleep> ...why does clang 4 depend on GCC 6.
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20170526 12:00:30< matthiaskrgr> maybe c++ libs or something
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20170526 22:28:28< matthiaskrgr> bump   https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/pull/1719    
20170526 22:28:50< matthiaskrgr> master is still emitting a bunch of compile warnings
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