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wesnoth-discord-> Is unit_type with 6 xp on 80% modifier(so 4.8) supposed to be 4, 5, or randomly either? 20170530 11:55:02-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 11:55:10-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170530 11:58:17-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 11:58:38-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170530 12:01:25-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 12:02:12-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170530 12:08:58-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 12:09:08-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170530 12:11:18-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 12:11:47-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170530 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Soliton> and that's from the same game? 20170530 12:24:52< Ravana_> yes 20170530 12:24:53< zookeeper> it would be good to doublecheck with :inspect that they really don't have anything else going on 20170530 12:25:21-!- sevu [~Shiki@p54856DF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170530 12:25:32< zookeeper> also, any difference WRT how the units were created? recruited normally, via [unit], etc? 20170530 12:25:40< Ravana_> both normal recruits 20170530 12:25:54< zookeeper> huh, okay. 20170530 12:26:20< zookeeper> what's the standard xp limit for those units? 20170530 12:26:29< zookeeper> oh, 6xp 20170530 12:26:31< zookeeper> nevermind 20170530 12:27:25< Soliton> is it this thing? https://units.wesnoth.org/1.10/Era_of_Magic/en_US/EoMa_Dimensional_Gate.html 20170530 12:27:34< Ravana_> yes 20170530 12:28:34< zookeeper> oh dang, the tooltip on the xp modifier slider really annoyingly blocks the value itself... 20170530 12:30:14< zookeeper> for what it's worth, i can't reproduce that with a modified core unit in master 20170530 12:30:46< zookeeper> changed skeleton to have 6 max xp, 80% modifier, they all come up with 0/5 20170530 12:31:33< zookeeper> but if you're using era of magic then surely it has all sorts of complicated stuff going on that could cause that 20170530 12:32:02< Ravana_> yes, and scenario too... 20170530 12:34:57-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 12:35:23< Soliton> ABILITY_EOMA_SOULCATCHER seems to modify xp. 20170530 12:35:33< zookeeper> although if you're sure that the unit doesn't actually receive any xp-related modifications of any kind, then that'... well, maybe that's it 20170530 12:35:52< Soliton> just sets it to 0 it seems though. 20170530 12:35:54< Ravana_> soulcatcher should only change current xp, not max 20170530 12:36:41< zookeeper> right. well, if you can pinpoint where the change originates from, that would certainly be interesting to know. 20170530 12:37:47-!- ancientcc 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(No mod is selected) 20170530 19:53:47< zookeeper> but are you using some special add-on scenario or era? 20170530 19:54:18< zookeeper> shouldn't really happen with any of the standard multiplayer content 20170530 20:00:21< wesnoth-discord-> Well, yeah, some custom survivals. 20170530 20:00:28< wesnoth-discord-> I thought they're downloaded automatically by others 20170530 20:00:57< wesnoth-discord-> usually scenarios do not need to be downloaded by others 20170530 20:01:31< zookeeper> in that case, most likely there's some kind of little problem in those scenarios 20170530 20:02:21< wesnoth-discord-> Alright, we're playing on zombie survival map now and seems to not cause desyncs 20170530 20:03:42-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@pl30478.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170530 20:08:35-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [] 20170530 20:08:57-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20170530 20:09:05-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 20:11:36-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Client Quit] 20170530 20:15:01-!- louis94 [~~louis94@95.129-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 20:16:31-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 20:17:03-!- Appleman1234 [~quassel@pl30478.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 20:28:52-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 20:34:16-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20170530 20:36:04< wesnoth-discord-> Wbijać. 20170530 20:59:02-!- louis94 [~~louis94@95.129-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170530 20:59:27-!- louis94 [~~louis94@95.129-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 21:28:35-!- claymore [~claymore@unaffiliated/claymore] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170530 21:28:44-!- vultraz_iOS [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 21:51:01-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20170530 21:55:08-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 22:30:50-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20170530 22:33:42-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 22:43:23-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170530 22:43:29-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 23:01:40-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@2001:44b8:254:3200:f41f:3039:ee13:fe77] has joined #wesnoth 20170530 23:01:51-!- Alkenrinnstet [~alkenrinn@42.61.217.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20170530 23:55:33-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@47.90.67.72] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Wed May 31 00:00:40 2017