--- Log opened Sat Jun 10 00:00:42 2017 --- Day changed Sat Jun 10 2017 20170610 00:00:42-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20170610 00:15:30-!- moongazer [~moongazer@117.198.83.7] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 00:36:50< wesnoth-discord-> Yep! 20170610 00:37:56-!- moongazer [~moongazer@117.198.83.7] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170610 00:41:30-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DCC6F2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20170610 01:58:08-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@61.68.170.86] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 02:08:13-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 02:19:26-!- sevu [~Shiki@p54854735.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 02:56:07-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 03:00:05-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170610 04:02:24-!- vultraz_iOS [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 04:02:57< wesnoth-discord-> @pydsigner good, good 😃 20170610 04:04:50-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.217.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 04:06:25-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.217.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 04:16:16-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 04:16:56-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 04:24:06-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 04:25:18-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 04:27:33< wesnoth-discord-> OMG wesnoth has a discord! 20170610 04:32:08< wesnoth-discord-> indeed 20170610 04:39:03< wesnoth-discord-> is there a section for getting help in here aswell or do you want that strictly for forum 20170610 04:39:12< wesnoth-discord-> help/advice/mentoring 20170610 04:40:46< wesnoth-discord-> If you have a question I think you can ask it in here though I think if you get answer/help here will be more random depending on if anyone is around to help at the time you ask your question. 20170610 04:41:48< wesnoth-discord-> riiiight, well i just recently started using the WML to make scenarios and what not for maps and I want to learn how to make survival maps, i posted on the forums and posted all my code there aswell any help is appreciated 20170610 04:42:33< wesnoth-discord-> i keep getting the "Mandatory child missing yet untested" error' 20170610 04:50:36< wesnoth-discord-> Ah yes, the Wesnothian equivalent to Windows' "Something happened" error. 20170610 04:51:40< wesnoth-discord-> lol precicely 20170610 04:52:11< wesnoth-discord-> Ive gone through my code several times but i cant figure it out and its really bothering me 20170610 04:53:42< wesnoth-discord-> Unrelated to that, you have some messed up lines it seems. For example, ` gold=100 village_gold=2` 20170610 04:54:07< wesnoth-discord-> As far as the parser is concerned, that is equivalent to ` gold="100 village_gold=2"`, which is most certainly not what you want. 20170610 04:55:40< wesnoth-discord-> ooooh 20170610 04:55:45< wesnoth-discord-> same with shroud and fog? 20170610 04:56:31< wesnoth-discord-> i wonder if thats what is causing the error? 20170610 04:58:02< wesnoth-discord-> FluffyBunny, I checked your code. I guess [multiplayer] in _main.cfg is not necessary. 20170610 04:59:37< wesnoth-discord-> okay so i fixed the gold thing and the shroud, and deleted the multiplayer tag in the main.cfg 20170610 04:59:47< wesnoth-discord-> do you mean the tag itself or everything i had within the tag 20170610 05:00:08< wesnoth-discord-> everything 20170610 05:00:11< wesnoth-discord-> oh ok 20170610 05:02:09< wesnoth-discord-> `[multiplayer]` describes a single scenario, so it's syntactically equivalent to single-player's `[scenario]`. 20170610 05:02:40< wesnoth-discord-> You just accidentally discovered that the game is not prepared to handle someone trying to use it as if it were something else. 20170610 05:04:07< wesnoth-discord-> so instead of multiplayer it should be scenario, so as to not confuse the game? 20170610 05:04:18< wesnoth-discord-> Um, no. 20170610 05:05:05< wesnoth-discord-> Let me clarify: your scenario is fine, it uses `[multiplayer]` like all MP scenarios should do. It's the `[multiplayer]` in your _main.cfg file that contains incomplete information because it does not describe an MP scenario. 20170610 05:05:07< wesnoth-discord-> sorry, i litterally started using the WML weds this week so i know very little 20170610 05:05:25< wesnoth-discord-> oh ok 20170610 05:05:43< wesnoth-discord-> It seems like you were trying to emulate `[campaign]` with that one when that's not necessary in MP (if you actually wanted to make an MP campaign you'd have to use `[campaign]` anyway). 20170610 05:06:12< wesnoth-discord-> okay and yes i took that main file from the tutorial campaign i made 20170610 05:06:26< wesnoth-discord-> and changed a few things 20170610 05:06:47< wesnoth-discord-> but i deleted the Multiplayer tag in that like tamanegi said to do 20170610 05:06:55-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 05:07:03< wesnoth-discord-> does it work? 20170610 05:07:18< wesnoth-discord-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/322964923976253452/main.cfg 20170610 05:07:25< wesnoth-discord-> no i still get the error 20170610 05:08:06< wesnoth-discord-> different error? 20170610 05:09:21< wesnoth-discord-> no its the same mandatory child missing yet untested one 20170610 05:09:46< wesnoth-discord-> Did you restart wesnoth after modifying the code? 20170610 05:09:52< wesnoth-discord-> Yes 20170610 05:10:22< wesnoth-discord-> What scenario do you choose? I guess it must be "The Wall" 20170610 05:10:30< wesnoth-discord-> yes 20170610 05:13:49< wesnoth-discord-> It works for me oddly enough. 20170610 05:14:22< wesnoth-discord-> WAIT 20170610 05:14:27< wesnoth-discord-> well..... 20170610 05:14:28< wesnoth-discord-> sorta 20170610 05:14:47< wesnoth-discord-> I got it sorta 20170610 05:15:05< wesnoth-discord-> it let me in and all that jazz, but it ends immediatly as a victory because there is no leader 20170610 05:15:10< wesnoth-discord-> on the enemy team 20170610 05:17:10< wesnoth-discord-> so how do i make the endlevel victory a time victory so i have to survive 30 turns or so 20170610 05:19:12< wesnoth-discord-> I dunno much about multiplayer... 20170610 05:19:59< wesnoth-discord-> typical way is to add an enemy leader somewhere in the map ( i often see this trick) 20170610 05:20:09< wesnoth-discord-> or you can use defeat_condition in [side] 20170610 05:28:39< wesnoth-discord-> Hey im tryin a few different things out and i gotta say i really appreciate all this help 20170610 05:33:28< wesnoth-discord-> HEY it works! 20170610 05:33:31< wesnoth-discord-> perfectly! 20170610 05:33:42< wesnoth-discord-> i just need to rebalance the map and test it out with a friend 20170610 05:41:23< wesnoth-discord-> There's also victory_when_enemies_defeated=no 20170610 05:43:56-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F7CBA176DE342D220183D09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 05:44:54< wesnoth-discord-> ah, victory_when_enemies_defeated might be the easiest and simplest one. 20170610 06:37:43-!- celticminstrel is now known as celmin|sleep 20170610 06:59:43-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F7CBA176DE342D220183D09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170610 07:13:37< wesnoth-discord-> @Ravana In case you were interested: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=46370&p=613936#p613936 20170610 07:14:33-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 07:15:26-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 07:15:26-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20170610 07:20:04-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 07:25:12-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170610 07:45:11-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 07:52:18-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.217.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 07:52:25-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.217.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 08:03:42-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@61.68.170.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170610 08:04:06-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@61.68.170.86] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 08:24:49-!- metronomicon [~metronomi@2a02:587:a06:6400:f6e8:5f8c:7ff9:9b70] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 08:25:57-!- metronomicon [~metronomi@2a02:587:a06:6400:f6e8:5f8c:7ff9:9b70] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 08:38:41-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20170610 08:40:05-!- ArneBab [~quassel@55d47225.access.ecotel.net] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 08:40:05-!- ArneBab [~quassel@55d47225.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Changing host] 20170610 08:40:05-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 08:46:41-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 08:47:44-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 09:01:41-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 09:02:55-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 09:29:44< wesnoth-discord-> So [for] does not have [while] limitation of 2^16? 20170610 09:37:22< wesnoth-discord-> Nope. 20170610 09:52:09-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:08:04-!- sevu [~Shiki@p548555E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:10:41-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:10:54-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 12:11:30-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:13:52-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F7CBA17FD1893796CBEAD30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:14:32-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170610 12:31:20-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:32:21-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 12:36:57-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:41:39-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20170610 12:48:51-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:52:49-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170610 12:56:39-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 12:59:02-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 13:04:59-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 13:12:43-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 13:25:25-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 13:25:26-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 13:27:57-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F7CBA17FD1893796CBEAD30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: [endlevel]] 20170610 13:29:04-!- sevu [~Shiki@p548555E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 13:44:57-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 13:46:24-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.216.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 14:21:52-!- vultraz_iOS [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20170610 14:46:34-!- vultraz_iOS [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 14:53:17-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20170610 15:15:04-!- THERetroGamerNY [THERetroGa@pool-68-133-48-135.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 15:34:47-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F7CBA17FD1893796CBEAD30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 15:39:17-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@61.68.170.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170610 15:50:32-!- Nobun [~nobun@host122-205-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 16:08:06-!- THERetroGamerNY [THERetroGa@pool-68-133-48-135.bflony.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 20170610 16:12:36-!- trewe [~trewe@2001:8a0:d12e:7b01:3559:d9de:b747:81b0] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 16:28:34< wesnoth-discord-> i need someone to help *critique* and beta test my map give me suggestions and advice 20170610 16:28:50< wesnoth-discord-> its co-op survival 20170610 16:42:43-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F7CBA17FD1893796CBEAD30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170610 16:52:12-!- celmin|sleep is now known as celticminstrel 20170610 17:56:54-!- DeFender1031 [~DeFender1@46-116-209-76.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 18:29:41-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F7CBA17FD1893796CBEAD30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 18:35:48-!- Nobun [~nobun@host122-205-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170610 18:51:43-!- Smedles [~quassel@CPE-58-160-77-59.ssqn1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 210 seconds.] 20170610 18:52:57-!- Smedles [~quassel@CPE-58-160-77-59.ssqn1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 19:26:00-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 19:30:40-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300760F7CBA17FD1893796CBEAD30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170610 19:41:32-!- prkc [~prkc@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/prkc] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 20:21:07-!- hyob [~hyob@ip5b41b6be.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 20:21:55< hyob> hi. should a hit of an assassin on a steelclad in a normal game of isar poison the steelclad? 20170610 20:23:13< hyob> that's not really a rhetorical question, I am seeing this not happen right now. 20170610 20:30:52< wesnoth-discord-> the melee hit does not 20170610 20:30:55< wesnoth-discord-> the range hit does 20170610 20:31:15< Ravana_> if assassin used attack with poison and steelclad was not already poisoned 20170610 20:31:17< hyob> range of course 20170610 20:31:30< hyob> happend twice now. 20170610 20:32:03< hyob> assassin attakcing with ranged, and hits, steelclad loses hp, but is not poisoned 20170610 20:32:43< Ravana_> :m Ravana and I will come and observe your game 20170610 20:33:14< hyob> "9"'s game 20170610 20:34:01< hyob> game is about to end every second now, though 20170610 20:40:51< hyob> over, and lost *sniff* ;-) 20170610 20:43:32< Ravana_> described behavior indeed happened 20170610 20:44:04< hyob> good to hear 20170610 20:44:25< celmin> For a given definition of "good", I suppose... 20170610 20:45:22< Ravana_> your dwarf is undead 20170610 20:45:37< celmin> Ooh. 20170610 20:45:38< hyob> ah 20170610 20:45:47< celmin> Why is he undead? 20170610 20:45:50< Ravana_> id="Bone Shooter-4" 20170610 20:45:56< hyob> of course I know dwarves are weird ;^} 20170610 20:46:06< Ravana_> and all other stuff from its original type is still there 20170610 20:46:20< Ravana_> whatever you used to select leaders is broken 20170610 20:48:30< hyob> I joined with (nowadays...) "normal" "Random", and "hi" ;-} 20170610 20:49:11< hyob> there was no-mirror and this colour thing active IIRC 20170610 20:49:55< hyob> "9" just told me now that his longbowman looked like a revenant when moving 20170610 20:50:02< hyob> once 20170610 20:50:04< Ravana_> yes 20170610 20:50:16< Ravana_> all the stuff from your leaders original types is still there 20170610 20:50:39< hyob> what does "original type" mean? 20170610 20:51:18< Ravana_> based on this, no-mirror works by changing leader attributes and recruit list 20170610 20:51:33< hyob> ahhh 20170610 20:52:57< hyob> I don't really know how no-mirror works internally. 20170610 20:56:07< celmin> No-mirror? 20170610 20:56:12< celmin> Is this shuffle sides? 20170610 20:56:59< hyob> no idea, sorry. 20170610 21:05:08-!- Smedles [~quassel@CPE-58-160-77-59.ssqn1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170610 21:05:23-!- Smedles [~quassel@CPE-58-160-77-59.ssqn1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 21:12:47-!- sevu [~Shiki@p548555E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 21:42:36-!- metronomicon [~metronomi@2a02:587:a06:6400:f6e8:5f8c:7ff9:9b70] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 21:43:45-!- metronomicon [~metronomi@2a02:587:a06:6400:f6e8:5f8c:7ff9:9b70] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 21:45:50-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20170610 21:47:54-!- aeth [~Michael@wesnoth/umc-dev/developer/aethaeryn] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 21:47:57-!- prkc [~prkc@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/prkc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170610 21:48:20-!- hyob [~hyob@ip5b41b6be.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170610 22:41:54-!- Kranix [~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20170610 22:44:46-!- knotwork [~markm@99.192.80.30] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 22:44:46-!- knotwork [~markm@99.192.80.30] has quit [Changing host] 20170610 22:44:46-!- knotwork [~markm@unaffiliated/knotwork] has joined #wesnoth 20170610 23:02:22-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20170610 23:29:27-!- clavi [~clavi@v22017034422546657.goodsrv.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 20170610 23:41:37< wesnoth-discord-> sounds like there's a bug here --- Log closed Sun Jun 11 00:00:55 2017