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20170712 11:43:29< Computer_player> Wow so this is the IRC
20170712 11:57:41< Rhonda> Computer_player: No, this is the IRC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
20170712 11:59:13< Computer_player> oooh its living! D:
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20170712 12:03:46< Computer_player> Imma dinner first and be actually here. Doing a massive Khalifate post
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20170712 12:44:24< Computer_player> Back :)
20170712 12:44:53< Computer_player> Basically came here to ask who is in charge of Khalifate mainlining  / MP balance :)
20170712 12:58:19< Soliton> an excellent question.
20170712 12:59:25< Soliton> perhaps you can just propose a change if that's why you're asking.
20170712 13:07:24< Bonobo> Computer_player, you may also get faster/different people responding if you ask this on #wesnoth-dev
20170712 13:08:47< DeFender1031> Bonobo, faction balance and stats stuff is really more of a content thing than a dev thing.
20170712 13:09:34< Bonobo> But I thought that stuff was usually done through wesnoth-dev anyway
20170712 13:09:43< Bonobo> obviously my lurking game is not strong enough
20170712 13:10:20< Soliton> once upon a time balancing discussion was done in #wesnoth-mp but nowadays not much is going on so it doesn't matter too much.
20170712 13:17:38< zookeeper> any discussion of the core game development should go in #wesnoth-dev whether it's programming or faction balancing, but in this case it probably doesn't matter because almost everyone is on this channel as well.
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20170712 13:48:50< Computer_player> so. about the who question
20170712 13:48:54< Computer_player> XD
20170712 13:49:06< DeFender1031> zookeeper, good to know.
20170712 13:49:50< Computer_player> proposal is about early for now. I just want to get the relevant dev involved in the discussion stage
20170712 13:50:56< Computer_player> well, the goal being is to get Khalif into mainline before steam.. 
20170712 13:54:09< zookeeper> uh. it's in mainline.
20170712 13:55:31< Computer_player> to be specific to make it Default era (the same way Drake was)
20170712 13:55:59< zookeeper> right, well, i guess that's unlikely to happen
20170712 13:57:17< Computer_player> diving in the forum archives, Default + Khalif is a testing phase towards Default integration.. though it seems that is not the case now?
20170712 13:57:46< Computer_player> or by unlikely you mean the time frame?
20170712 13:58:23< Computer_player> brb
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20170712 14:17:05< Computer_player> back now. 
20170712 14:17:35< Computer_player> I suppose I'll go to wesnoth-dev then
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20170712 14:43:12< wesnoth-discord-> <Rhike> Why are dragons chaotic
20170712 14:43:31< DeFender1031> Why shouldn't they be?
20170712 14:57:31< Computer_player> They are inherently magical creatures
20170712 14:58:34< DeFender1031> And?
20170712 14:59:55< Computer_player> wait.. I thought they were lawful. Skel Dragons were the chaotic ones
20170712 15:06:19< Computer_player> Oh there's Fire Dragons who are chaotic (old) and there's neutral ones
20170712 15:29:48< wesnoth-discord-> <Rhike> Well
20170712 15:29:58< wesnoth-discord-> <Rhike> I thought Drakes are lawful because the sun
20170712 15:30:07< wesnoth-discord-> <Rhike> And a Fire Dragon should be lawful as well
20170712 15:30:13< wesnoth-discord-> <Rhike> ^ my logic
20170712 15:30:34< Kwandulin> In mainline, the fire dragons are located inside caves, so chaotic might fit, too
20170712 15:31:34< Computer_player> Drakes are lawful because their civilization culturally was diurnal and not noctrunal <-- headcannon
20170712 15:32:25< Computer_player> also their fires are weaker so they can stay in the sun without getting sunburn / overheating
20170712 15:37:31< Kwandulin> Yeah, but dragons =/= drakes
20170712 15:38:44< DeFender1031> Kwandulin, IIRC, there are implications that they are related in some places and implications that they're not in others.
20170712 15:39:19< DeFender1031> I personally prefer to think of them as related.
20170712 15:39:23< Kwandulin> Yeah, but related =/=identical
20170712 15:39:34< DeFender1031> Fair.
20170712 15:40:50< Kwandulin> Yes, in my drake UMC Ashen Hearts (https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=44442#p600007) I've also portrayed them as related
20170712 15:42:42< DeFender1031> My campaign also explicitly treats them as related, thought drakes are far less central to my story.
20170712 15:43:11< DeFender1031> (If I ever manage to update it for 1.13 and finish it, that is.)
20170712 16:02:22< Harzilein> hmm... there are external wml parsers, right? like the one that makes static html pages for factions/eras? are they python only, or could someone already have made a lib that other languages could make bindings for?
20170712 16:08:25< Soliton> nowadays it uses wesnoth to parse wml.
20170712 16:08:43< Soliton> but there is still a standalone python parser afaik.
20170712 16:16:36< Harzilein> is there a repo w/ the generator?
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