--- Log opened Wed Jul 19 00:00:44 2017 20170719 00:05:18< celticminstrel> "too modern looking for a fantasy game." -- Don't forget modern fantasy is a thing. :P 20170719 00:06:36 * celticminstrel figures you meant "medieval fantasy game" or some such. 20170719 00:12:08< celticminstrel> My only complaint about the forum is that it's narrower. There's a lot of empty space on both sides that's no longer being used. 20170719 00:20:35-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@183.240.25.165] has joined #wesnoth 20170719 00:25:14-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@183.240.25.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170719 00:26:29-!- edaq [~edaq3@h69-21-227-85.cytnin.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170719 00:28:09< DeFender1031> celticminstrel, yes, that's what I meant. Thank you for being your usual pedantic self. I love it. Please never change. No, I'm not being sarcastic. (Really, I'm actually really being sincere.) 20170719 00:40:40< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: they'll get a bit wider 20170719 00:41:23-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20170719 00:41:59< celmin> vultraz_iOS: That sounds highly insufficient. 20170719 00:42:07< vultraz_iOS> i don't like the size either 20170719 00:42:13< vultraz_iOS> default prosilver too small 20170719 00:42:14< celmin> Why not just remove the unnecessary margins altogether? 20170719 00:42:34< celmin> The margins take up likeโ€ฆ one-third of the window maybe? 20170719 00:42:55< celmin> Hmm, maybe not quite that much. 20170719 00:42:58< vultraz_iOS> it will get bigger but we won't have it filling the window anymore 20170719 00:43:21< celmin> โ€ฆor maybe it really is one-third. 20170719 00:43:25< celmin> Why not? 20170719 00:43:36< celmin> Just make it fill the window. 20170719 00:43:49< celmin> There's literally no good reason to do otherwise. 20170719 00:44:04< celmin> If it were something simple like a blog, okay, sure, I could understand adding that margin. 20170719 00:44:15< celmin> But that's not what this is. 20170719 00:44:21< vultraz_iOS> something something phpbb 3.2 20170719 00:44:42< celmin> Adding that margin is like saying "Oh, you made your window that big? Well too bad we don't want to use that space." 20170719 00:45:16< celmin> DeFender1031: I can't decide whether I can believe your profession of being totally sincere there. 20170719 00:45:59-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20170719 00:46:47-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20170719 00:51:55< wesnoth-discord-> celmin: It's a UX principle 20170719 00:52:13< celmin> It's a UX principal to not use all the space you're given? 20170719 00:54:30< wesnoth-discord-> https://baymard.com/blog/line-length-readability 20170719 00:55:04< DeFender1031> celmin, I really was, though. 20170719 00:55:47< DeFender1031> I added the parens to try to clarify that. 20170719 00:56:23< wesnoth-discord-> optimal line length is one thing, but so much empty space is, frankly, distracting 20170719 00:57:07< wesnoth-discord-> What's your monitor size? 20170719 00:57:12< wesnoth-discord-> 1920x1080 20170719 00:57:23< DeFender1031> ๐… ๐…  I'm not even angry... I'm being sooo sincere right now. ๐… ๐…  20170719 00:57:35< wesnoth-discord-> No, physical 20170719 00:57:46< wesnoth-discord-> I remembered that it was 1080p 20170719 00:58:24< wesnoth-discord-> 24" 20170719 00:59:20< wesnoth-discord-> DeFender1031: even though we broke your heart and killed you? Seems extreme 20170719 01:01:12< DeFender1031> @pydsigner, and now that song is in your head. You're welcome. 20170719 01:01:47< celmin> Why do I see boxes in DeFender1031's comment. 20170719 01:02:20< DeFender1031> celmin, because your font doesn't support the musical note character? 20170719 01:02:31< celmin> Pretty sure I have a font with those characters. 20170719 01:02:54< wesnoth-discord-> They're boxes in Discord too 20170719 01:03:03< DeFender1031> :( 20170719 01:07:04< DeFender1031> Does this one work? ๐ŸŽœ 20170719 01:07:31< DeFender1031> Or this one? ๐ŸŽต 20170719 01:08:37< celmin> The second one works. 20170719 01:09:18< celticminstrel> Oh wait, the original one does show up over here. 20170719 01:09:32< celticminstrel> I guess I just have fewer fonts installed on the laptop or something. 20170719 01:10:09< celmin> @pydsigner - I can accept that for text, maybe, but the forum isn't just text. It's tables. 20170719 01:11:32< DeFender1031> I agree. 20170719 01:11:50< wesnoth-discord-> Defender, that last one worked 20170719 01:12:05< celmin> The last one is an emoji though. 20170719 01:12:07< celmin> I think. 20170719 01:12:12< celmin> Given that it's kinda greyish. 20170719 01:12:27< celmin> (For some reason Apple decided to start using colour fonts for their emoji.) 20170719 01:13:58< DeFender1031> It's actually a unicode point, but it seems to be more widely supported than the others and it sounds like many things automatically convert it to an emoji 20170719 01:28:26< DeFender1031> Anyway, glad at least one person focused on the reference rather than the broken unicode. :P 20170719 01:34:13< wesnoth-discord-> Ok I'm looking at the forum width thing again 20170719 01:34:33< wesnoth-discord-> I think the main issue is that there's no contrast between the content bg and the page bg 20170719 01:35:17< celmin> My client doesn't convert non-ASCII characters into emoji... 20170719 01:35:45< celmin> @pydsigner - Eh? 20170719 01:44:38< wesnoth-discord-> BG contrast 20170719 01:44:38< wesnoth-discord-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/231976805987385345/337047041676935170/Screenshot_2017-07-18_20-42-16.png 20170719 01:45:43< celmin> I don't think that's it. 20170719 01:45:53< celmin> Though the contrast currently present is kind of annoying. 20170719 01:46:52< wesnoth-discord-> The thing is, I'm not convinced that content needs to be wider 20170719 01:47:10< wesnoth-discord-> But the styling of it could be better 20170719 01:54:19< wesnoth-discord-> @pydsigner can't do that right now even if we wanted to 20170719 01:54:29< wesnoth-discord-> phpbb3.0 limitation 20170719 01:58:47< celmin> ??? 20170719 01:58:53< celmin> Highly doubt that? 20170719 01:59:28< celmin> Might not be worth doing it right now, but I'm 100% sure it would be possible. 20170719 02:02:20< wesnoth-discord-> rounded corners are white images 20170719 02:02:54< celmin> Not sure what this has to do with anything. 20170719 02:03:45< wesnoth-discord-> @shadowm can you explain this because I can't 20170719 02:04:16< DeFender1031> Could the corner images not be replaced with ones of the desired background color? 20170719 02:04:59< wesnoth-discord-> ffs we're going to update to phpbb3.2 why can't you people be patient 20170719 02:05:03< shadowm> There are better things to do with my time than attempt to fix legacy crap from 2004. 20170719 02:05:38< celmin> Well, if that means there's less wasted space, I suppose I can be patient. 20170719 02:06:11< shadowm> I am probably going to increase the centerbox em count for the forums stylesheet but not by much. 20170719 02:06:38< shadowm> I didn't have the ability to test it when preparing it because the version of the forums we're using (get this) does not run on newer platforms. 20170719 02:06:54< shadowm> Or rather it does but most posts come up empty. 20170719 02:07:02< celmin> โ€ฆwait what? 20170719 02:07:55< shadowm> I believe I spoke English. 20170719 02:08:33< celmin> I totally understood what you said. 20170719 02:08:45< shadowm> Cool. 20170719 02:12:50< DeFender1031> @Vultraz, chill. I'm pretty sure we were both just being pedantic about the theoretical difference between "impossible" and "not worth doing". No one's suggesting putting tons of effort into something which will be replaced imminently. 20170719 02:22:23-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20170719 02:44:07-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20170719 02:48:00-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170719 03:19:03< wesnoth-discord-> @Vultraz I'm not suggesting that work be put into it, I don't think anything I said suggested that we invest throwaway work 20170719 03:20:56-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! 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