--- Log opened Wed Jul 26 00:00:53 2017 20170726 00:14:00-!- celmin|away is now known as celticminstrel 20170726 00:33:57-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@129.127.113.184] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 00:36:34-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 00:50:10< shadowm> zookeeper: Yeah, feel free to change those black boxes. 20170726 00:50:22< shadowm> zookeeper: They are not my business because whoever wrote that page clearly wanted them that way: 20170726 00:50:28< shadowm> *  '''White'''  20170726 00:50:41< shadowm> (I don't think you need to know CSS to understand what this means.) 20170726 00:52:24< shadowm> The colors don't work because there's a nested element ('''foo''' generates foo) and that has its own color (#222) specified in the stylesheet, and that takes precedence unless you change the nesting order or use !important (don't do the latter). 20170726 01:04:35< shadowm> Also, since neither you nor vultraz nor any other admin wants to make use of the file upload functionality I enabled because ancestral pestered me about it and never made use of it 20170726 01:04:56< shadowm> I guess I'll see if I can make it so a trusted non-admin user group is able to upload files. 20170726 01:11:55-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.166] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 01:11:58< DeFender1031> I'll go fix those. 20170726 01:12:36< DeFender1031> Also, shadowm, it may not entirely be your problem, but it IS the result of having put a text color on tags. 20170726 01:13:05< shadowm> Shrug. 20170726 01:13:33< DeFender1031> there's an easy fix here, but the fact that tags are styled without regard for their context will lead to a few such edge cases. 20170726 01:14:13< shadowm> 20170726 01:14:50< DeFender1031> can't do that in MW. 20170726 01:15:00< shadowm> What? 20170726 01:15:01< DeFender1031> not with "'''" for bold, anyway. 20170726 01:15:09< shadowm> Then use . 20170726 01:15:34< DeFender1031> that's not what you're supposed to do in MW. 20170726 01:15:43< shadowm> I was told that didn't matter. 20170726 01:15:50< shadowm> We had a whole argument about this 3 years ago. 20170726 01:16:02< shadowm> Or 4. I forget because I've been around for too long. 20170726 01:16:23< DeFender1031> On the other hand, MW's conformance to accepted convention as well as standards is very poor in general, so there's plenty of blame to go around here. 20170726 01:16:37-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20170726 01:17:14< DeFender1031> Well, I'm not looking to start another argument. Just pointing out that certain indiscriminate styles may not do entirely what you expect them to once you mix in MW's handling of certain things. 20170726 01:17:17< shadowm> The point is I'd rather see those edge cases sorted out like the edge cases they are rather than have to compromise core design aspects support legacy crap. 20170726 01:17:30< DeFender1031> Oh, I agree with you. 20170726 01:17:38< shadowm> *to support 20170726 01:17:53< DeFender1031> Cases like that should be worked around inline. 20170726 01:18:00< wesnoth-discord-> Given the choice to take the moral high ground or make things work, pragmatism is generally the way to go in web dev 20170726 01:18:19< wesnoth-discord-> Unfortunately 20170726 01:18:50-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@140.207.223.166] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170726 01:19:02< shadowm> It's not the most colorful wiki anyone has ever written. 20170726 01:19:19< shadowm> It's certainly not as bad as TV Tropes was before they decided to remove the color functionality entirely. 20170726 01:21:49< Polsaker> I sent the PM to get a new wiki acct. I can help with screenshots and redacting/updating some pages. 20170726 01:22:01< DeFender1031> All I was saying is that there are some things that used to work that won't anymore (and likely some things that didn't which now will), and that it's partly the result of the switchover. Not saying the switchover is bad, not saying that the new CSS should account for crap like that to ensure that every old case works the same way, none of that. You'll also never hear me make a suggestion like that, because I know CSS, and I am of the opinion that 20170726 01:22:03< DeFender1031> CSS is a nightmare to begin with. Supporting crazy cases like that would be nearly impossible if not entirely impossible. Just saying that because it worked before the new style and not now, I think you could take a slightly more sympathetic attitude toward it than "not my problem". 20170726 01:27:52-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@2606:a000:7947:5000:151e:e9c3:2103:9bbc] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170726 01:28:13-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@2606:a000:7947:5000:151e:e9c3:2103:9bbc] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 01:30:05-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@129.127.113.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170726 01:34:17-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@129.127.113.184] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 01:43:57-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@129.127.113.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170726 01:44:24< vultraz_iOS> Polsaker: created your wiki account 20170726 01:44:37< Polsaker> <3 20170726 01:44:57< vultraz_iOS> you should have been sent a temporary password 20170726 01:50:33-!- Johannes13_ [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 01:52:02< Polsaker> vultraz_iOS: Should I send PMs to that group too whith the images I need uploaded (I'm still taking screenshots 20170726 01:52:19< vultraz_iOS> uh, sure 20170726 01:54:17-!- DasBrain [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170726 02:12:35-!- Johannes13_ is now known as DasBrain 20170726 02:36:17-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 02:40:33-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20170726 02:44:46-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@2606:a000:7947:5000:151e:e9c3:2103:9bbc] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170726 02:53:30-!- synthpopisback [~synthpopi@2606:a000:7947:5000:e916:8a35:7722:788] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 03:18:21-!- SigurdFD [~SigurdFD@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 03:29:19-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@61.68.206.22] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 04:00:34< wesnoth-discord-> When you're researching on Wikipedia and find an article on Wesnoth 20170726 04:00:49< wesnoth-discord-> https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&ie=UTF8&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://meristation.as.com/pc/the-battle-for-wesnoth/analisis-juego/1523231&usg=ALkJrhi_8eZsKmWDDFcSrMCh75HAaEEP-A 20170726 04:35:23< shadowm> You do realize that's from 2007, right? 20170726 04:38:23-!- SigurdFD [~SigurdFD@dynamic-acs-72-23-110-196.zoominternet.net] has quit [] 20170726 04:38:40-!- celmin [~celticmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The minstrel departs, to spread the music to the masses!] 20170726 04:47:50-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20170726 05:03:16-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20170726 06:12:30-!- Guest66757 [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 06:21:33< wesnoth-discord-> I removed that ''' from red. Bold is completely different from just being in game 20170726 06:46:22-!- fktuyk [~vhmk@adsl-209.37.6.3.tellas.gr] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 06:47:08-!- zookeeper [zookeeper@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 06:47:31< fktuyk> I'm on Xenial. How to install 1.12.6? 20170726 06:49:13< wesnoth-discord-> https://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesnothBinariesLinux#Repos_with_newer_vesions 20170726 07:01:29-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 07:11:16-!- fktuyk [~vhmk@adsl-209.37.6.3.tellas.gr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170726 07:46:02-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170726 07:48:42-!- deathisundead [~quassel@2601:40a:c300:73aa:f498:be6a:1475:f8c5] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 07:48:42-!- deathisundead [~quassel@2601:40a:c300:73aa:f498:be6a:1475:f8c5] has quit [Changing host] 20170726 07:48:42-!- deathisundead [~quassel@unaffiliated/the-unforgiven/x-8713611] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 08:32:37-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 08:36:24-!- Guest66757 [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20170726 09:10:43-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20170726 09:21:23-!- iwaim [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20170726 09:22:04-!- sevu [~Shiki@p5485406D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 09:24:02-!- Jetrel_bot [~Jetrel@ec2.happyspork.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170726 09:25:18-!- Jetrel_bot [~Jetrel@ec2.happyspork.com] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 09:27:48-!- iwaim [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 09:57:56-!- MadMerlin [~neil@206-248-167-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170726 09:58:42-!- MadMerlin [~neil@206-248-167-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 10:07:50-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.217.91] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 10:08:04-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.217.91] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170726 10:11:25-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.217.91] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 10:11:34-!- ancientcc [~ancientcc@112.64.217.91] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170726 10:21:39-!- sevu [~Shiki@p5485406D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170726 10:42:56-!- zookeeper [zookeeper@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170726 10:43:07-!- zookeeper [zookeeper@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 11:12:29-!- Kranix [~magnus@193.88.100.59] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 11:22:23-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170726 12:21:23-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 12:36:48-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20170726 12:58:53-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! 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