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20170810 02:02:14< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: why do you prefer the old version to this so-called cleanup
20170810 02:03:30< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: good point about get_window in window, hm...
20170810 02:26:40< celticminstrel> I'll note that the widget version of get_window should, in theory, work correctly even when it happens to be called on a window (though I didn't dig that deep).
20170810 02:26:49< celticminstrel> I think I just prefer the lambdas being inline.
20170810 02:26:57< celticminstrel> I guess you did it because the two lambdas were identical?
20170810 02:34:09< vultraz_iOS> yes
20170810 02:41:16< vultraz_iOS> it doesn't make sense to duplicate them
20170810 02:48:25< celticminstrel> Meh.
20170810 02:52:03< vultraz_iOS> should we merge the ios pr
20170810 02:52:04< vultraz_iOS> and then test
20170810 02:52:14< vultraz_iOS> im feeling very lazy
20170810 02:53:41< celticminstrel> How did your tablet testing go?
20170810 02:53:45< vultraz_iOS> i didn't test
20170810 02:53:50< celticminstrel> Then probably not?
20170810 02:53:56< vultraz_iOS> I'm too lazy to make a new branch
20170810 02:54:30< celticminstrel> So you're too lazy to do something utterly trivial. It's a wonder anything ever gets done around here. >_>
20170810 02:54:40< vultraz_iOS> well you see
20170810 02:54:48< vultraz_iOS> if i make a new branch and pull
20170810 02:54:53< vultraz_iOS> and then test and go back to master
20170810 02:54:58< vultraz_iOS> and then merge and pull again
20170810 02:55:05< vultraz_iOS> that's 3 large rebuilds
20170810 02:55:16< vultraz_iOS> whereas if i merge and test after
20170810 02:55:18< vultraz_iOS> just 1
20170810 03:36:42< celticminstrel> Pretty sure it's only 2 the other way.
20170810 03:36:58< celticminstrel> One build on the new branch, to test.
20170810 03:37:15< celticminstrel> One on master, after you've tested (or on a_r if you go back to that instead),
20170810 03:37:24< celticminstrel> ^after you've tested and merged
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20170810 05:41:05< vultraz_iOS> well i seem to have broken labels in the editor
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20170810 07:08:54< shadowm> We don't have an i18n mailing list anymore, right?
20170810 07:09:24< vultraz_iOS> no
20170810 07:09:28< vultraz_iOS> we have none
20170810 07:09:29< shadowm> (I know Gna.org died. I'm asking if anyone bothered to set one up using the facilities we have on wesnoth.org. Which... probably not many people besides like three of us have heard of.)
20170810 07:09:29< JyrkiVesterinen> Correct. We don't have any mailing lists now when Gna is gone.
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20170810 08:00:29< shadowm> For any translators or translation maintainers: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=46664
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20170810 12:02:02< zookeeper> shadowm, could the "Places" and "Advanced" (and any other applicable ones) wiki button images have some kind of indicator (such as ...) to signify that there's a pop-up menu behind them?
20170810 12:03:12< zookeeper> currently you can't tell them apart from buttons that actually do a thing when clicked
20170810 12:05:04< zookeeper> (or maybe a triangular downwards arrow)
20170810 12:09:53< zookeeper> i could do it myself (if you linked me to the images, because they're hard to track down), but i find it entirely possible that you might not want to trust my artistry :J
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20170810 17:34:15< irker498> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master 59d59bb9f9a7 / src/ (config.cpp config.hpp): Add config::remove_children() https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/59d59bb9f9a71998ebdc828b1bdfac1cf90cd0b7
20170810 17:34:15< irker498> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master bace33a3c4c4 / src/gui/dialogs/addon/manager.cpp: Fix add-on list not being updated after publishing/deleting an add-on https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/bace33a3c4c493c2c6cd7763f6297318c97c0347
20170810 17:37:58< shadowm> zookeeper: Maybe.
20170810 17:38:22< shadowm> Here are the images if you want to edit them! Tee hee https://github.com/wesnoth/wesmere/tree/master/wesmere/fonts
20170810 17:40:10< shadowm> File a bug there and I'll look into it at some point.
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20170810 17:44:52< gfgtdf> shadowm: http://replays.wesnoth.org/1.13 doesn't show players list. I think this is related to a change to the savefile format used by the server.
20170810 17:45:35< gfgtdf> shadowm: also it'd be nice if it'd show modifications used
20170810 17:46:08< gfgtdf> shadowm: do you know how to fix that ?
20170810 17:47:39< shadowm> No.
20170810 17:48:25< shadowm> Best ask Soliton instead since I don't remember how any of that worked and the last person to touch it was in fact iceiceice.
20170810 17:48:57< shadowm> Why are we using bzip2? Waste of processing power.
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20170810 17:53:38< gfgtdf> Soliton: ^  http://replays.wesnoth.org/1.13 doesn't show players list. I think this is related to a change to the savefile format used by the server.  do you know how to fix that ?
20170810 17:54:53< gfgtdf> doing textsearch or 'players:' in wesnoth, could take a while since it couldn't find out how to make it not to look in image & translation files.
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20170810 18:06:01< gfgtdf> hmm i wonder whether it's possibel to make forums [code] automaticalyl run wmlindent in wml code. 
20170810 18:06:45< gfgtdf> the first question woud be whether wmlindent is safe to use or wheter it can be hacked by an evil input string. 
20170810 18:08:44< DeFender1031> gfgtdf, given the state of most of the code, likely the latter.
20170810 18:12:24< vultraz_iOS> shadowm: who needs to be pinged to the CoC link in the mp server MOTD can be changes to an https one?
20170810 18:12:38< vultraz_iOS> s/to/so
20170810 18:13:08< vultraz_iOS> also, what's the 1.12 port again?
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20170810 18:19:09< shadowm> vultraz_iOS: https://coc.wesnoth.org/
20170810 18:19:38< shadowm> vultraz_iOS: First ask Rhonda to add coc.wesnoth.org to the certificate, wait for the certificate to update, then poke me to update the MOTDs.
20170810 18:20:14< vultraz_iOS> Rhonda: ^
20170810 18:20:22< shadowm> gfgtdf: No, it's not feasible to make the forums do that for a number of reasons.
20170810 18:20:55< gfgtdf> shadowm: that'd be? (except the one i mentoned)
20170810 18:23:37< shadowm> You really want to know?
20170810 18:23:41< gfgtdf> sure
20170810 18:24:02< shadowm> 1) From now on I'm summarily rejecting any and all forum mod requests.
20170810 18:24:07< shadowm> 2) Not all [code] is WML.
20170810 18:26:16< gfgtdf> (2) coud coud have an attribute or even a different tag for wml code, not really a reason against doing that.
20170810 18:26:24< shadowm> See (1).
20170810 18:26:56< shadowm> In fact that's not "from now on", the codebase has been frozen for several months already pending the 3.2 update.
20170810 18:27:36< shadowm> If you really want to make something happen you'll have to write a 3.2 extension and wait until that gets deployed at some point within the next 10 years.
20170810 18:28:09< Rhonda> shadowm: If coc is just a redirect to the wiki, why not store the wiki link directly then?
20170810 18:28:12< shadowm> But anything that requires modding the codebase is forbidden.
20170810 18:28:36< shadowm> Rhonda: I don't know, I didn't really set this up in the first place.
20170810 18:28:47< shadowm> I've never been too happy about the superfluous redirects either.
20170810 18:29:30< Rhonda> I think I left all those redirects out because I wasn't directly able to figure out how to make it work for letsencrypt.  xD
20170810 18:29:33< shadowm> I suppose the reasoning is that it'll be easier for the, like, 5 people who'll ever bother to read the CoC, to type "coc.wesnoth.org" into their browser's address bar than "wiki.wesnoth.org/SomethingSomething".
20170810 18:29:51< shadowm> (The MP UI does not support copying text from the chat log, including the MOTD.)
20170810 18:30:27< vultraz_iOS> ah, right
20170810 18:30:35< vultraz_iOS> because it's a damn label
20170810 18:30:54< shadowm> OTOH I'm sure that problem will be solved in 1.14. ;)
20170810 18:30:57< vultraz_iOS> shadowm: but you can click on it now, tho
20170810 18:31:13< vultraz_iOS> ie, you can click on the link to visit it
20170810 18:31:13< shadowm> But for the remaining 12 months that will take for 1.14 to come out, people will still use 1.12.
20170810 18:31:38< vultraz_iOS> topkek
20170810 18:31:43< shadowm> Since, you know, it is the "stable" version and everything, and it has all the add-ons.
20170810 18:32:09< shadowm> And all those toxic people that play the game to hurl insults at each other.
20170810 18:33:22< Rhonda> I can try to give those redirects a whack, but for now I'll have to drop it onto my TODO list.
20170810 18:33:59< Ravana_> 1.12 supports copying to some extent, but is too much bother for most people to manage it
20170810 18:34:02< shadowm> I could make yet another vhost dedicated to it and you just need to add it to the cert.
20170810 18:34:50< shadowm> Ravana_: It's horrendously glitchy, so it's not a great extent or one that would please the great majority of people.
20170810 18:35:14< Rhonda> shadowm: It might be better to make it work as it is because then adding the other redirects should be just the same somehow?
20170810 18:35:15< shadowm> I tried to fix it and I think I only made it marginally worse.
20170810 18:36:04< shadowm> Rhonda: Yeah, there are a lot of redirects defined by rewrite rules in the main vhost that currently don't work with https://.
20170810 18:36:29< shadowm> Although I don't see the great majority of them as particularly important for anything.
20170810 18:36:33< Rhonda> Well, they work - if you ignore the fact that they aren't in the cert.</nitpick>
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20170810 22:00:39< zookeeper> shadowm, ohh, they're svg...
20170810 22:01:49< zookeeper> apparently i don't even have anything capable of opening them right now, and i've never even worked with svg's, so... err... maybe i'll pass for now
20170810 22:07:48< Elvish_Hunter> gfgtdf: even if it was possible to automatically run wmlindent, that'd mean that we won't see any more if some code is badly indented, and we won't be able to suggest users to get a better text editor...
20170810 22:08:45< Elvish_Hunter> Besides, I can easily imagine users that keep editing their post, because the indentation displayed in the forum doesn't match the one in their files.
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20170810 22:09:44< Elvish_Hunter> And finally, wmlindent wasn't designed to be run on a server, so I have no idea about what it might happen.
20170810 22:10:48< Elvish_Hunter> zookeeper: how about Inkscape?
20170810 22:11:04< zookeeper> didn't work, for some reason.
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20170810 22:32:01< shadowm> zookeeper: They are not SVG.
20170810 22:35:57< zookeeper> oh. well, in that case i still wouldn't know what to do with those other files.
20170810 22:36:11< shadowm> That's why I told you to submit an issue instead.
20170810 22:38:03< zookeeper> the only issue i could submit is "i wanted to edit the wiki button images but i don't know how", doesn't seem like something you'd find useful
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20170810 22:40:11< shadowm> In that case I can't promise I'll ever remember to tend to your request.
20170810 22:40:33< shadowm> You are also not allowed to edit them since they are third-party assets subject to change anyway.
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20170810 22:57:47< zookeeper> well i guess that kind of rules out my idea in the first place, no?
20170810 22:58:53< shadowm> No.
20170810 23:05:25< DeFender1031> zookeeper, i use inkscape for svg.
20170810 23:05:37< DeFender1031> (Though the newest version got pretty crappy.)
20170810 23:06:36< DeFender1031> Oh, inkscape was mentioned.
20170810 23:08:04< zookeeper> shadowm, it's fine. i just naively assumed that there was a convenient set of png's that could just be edited. but when the whole thing is clearly something very complicated and arcane, i'll happily spare you the burden of having to explain it all to me.
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20170810 23:56:28< shadowm> zookeeper: The tl;dr is I know exactly how to achieve what you want using CSS and HTML only, but I don't have time to look into it right now since I've got a much bigger fish to fry and it's called units.wesnoth.org.
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