--- Log opened Wed Aug 23 00:00:07 2017 --- Day changed Wed Aug 23 2017 20170823 00:00:07-!- ToBeCloud [uid51591@wikimedia/ToBeFree] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20170823 00:12:00-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 00:27:31-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 00:27:37-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 00:48:00-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.220.138.162] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 01:15:30-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 01:15:37-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 01:54:20-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 01:54:27-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 02:05:54-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20170823 02:54:16-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 02:58:01-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170823 04:21:31-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6CBDF1A84E341FE293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 04:55:55-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 04:56:01-!- janebot [~Gambot@unaffiliated/gambit/bot/gambot] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 05:02:10-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Technaton 20170823 05:04:14-!- Netsplit over, joins: Technaton 20170823 05:32:27-!- namad7 [aaaaa@pool-100-6-158-12.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20170823 05:36:26-!- namad7 [aaaaa@pool-100-6-158-12.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 05:57:52-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6CBDF1A84E341FE293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170823 05:58:36-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6CBDF1A84E341FE293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 06:08:17-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6CBDF1A84E341FE293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170823 06:18:09-!- wesnoth-discord- [~wesnoth-d@baldras.wesnoth.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20170823 06:18:17-!- wesnoth-discord- [~wesnoth-d@baldras.wesnoth.org] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 06:29:18-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 06:37:29-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6CBDF1A84E341FE293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 06:42:26< Kwandulin> How to make feature requests? 20170823 06:42:42< wesnoth-discord-> The best way is to file an issue in GitHub. 20170823 06:51:57< Kwandulin> How can I mark the issue as a feature request? (first time filing an issue on GitHub) 20170823 06:52:27< wesnoth-discord-> You can't do it, only us developers have the power to label issues. 20170823 07:12:34< Kwandulin> Alright, I filed an issue. 20170823 07:13:38< wesnoth-discord-> Labeled as an FR. 20170823 07:13:51< Kwandulin> Thanks! 20170823 07:26:00-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 07:47:32-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-01-70-51-189-179.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 10:06:58-!- edaq [~edaq3@h69-21-227-85.cytnin.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 10:09:36< wesnoth-discord-> Hey guys. So, how are things with 1.13.9? Iirc, it was schedules for late August, is that still the case? 20170823 10:38:32-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6CBDF1A84E341FE293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170823 10:51:32-!- edaq [~edaq3@h69-21-227-85.cytnin.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170823 11:38:57-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@195.56.169.82] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170823 11:40:12-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 11:42:35-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6CBDF1A84E341FE293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 12:42:08-!- Tecraus [~jihfg@adsl-176.37.6.2.tellas.gr] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 12:43:43-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 12:46:01< Tecraus> I think I read somewhere (release notes maybe) that the Gryphons of the Heir of Throne campaign can join you somehow. The actual Gryphons, not the eggs. I don't think that's true. If it is, please send me a pm. 20170823 12:48:11< zookeeper> it's true, but they make an appearance much later instead of joining you there and then. 20170823 12:51:28< Tecraus> zookeeper are you sure? I'm not talking about the eggs, I'm talking about those 4 Gryphons (including mother) who protect the eggs. 20170823 12:51:48< zookeeper> yes. but only in 1.13, not in 1.12. 20170823 12:52:15< Tecraus> oh... 20170823 12:52:18< DoctorFender1031> !!! 20170823 12:52:24< DoctorFender1031> I didn't know that! 20170823 12:52:40< Kwandulin> Oh, they can? 20170823 12:52:44< DoctorFender1031> Let me guess, if you go around them and don't attack them and protect them from being killed by the enemy as well? 20170823 12:53:06< DoctorFender1031> Also, why would you want that rather than the riders? 20170823 12:54:11< Tecraus> I'm on 1.12, so it's impossible for me... DoctorFender1031 it's not about what I prefer, it's about discovering my options. 20170823 12:54:14< zookeeper> well why do you want anything in a game other than the most efficient path? 20170823 12:55:23-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20170823 12:57:12< Tecraus> So it's either those 4 guys or the eggs (=the right to recruit). Well... they are loyal, aren't they? So there a good reason, DoctorFender1031 20170823 12:57:53< Tecraus> Good enough for me anyway. I wouldn't use more than 4 Gryphons in whole campaign anyway. 20170823 12:58:45< wesnoth-discord-> @Bitron The last I've heard, August is still the goal. It would probably help if things had stopped getting added to its milestone though. 20170823 13:01:02-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170823 13:03:30< DoctorFender1031> Tecraus, I wasn't asking you, I was asking zookeeper, and my question would have been better as "why would a player prefer" rather than "you". 20170823 13:03:55< DoctorFender1031> Tecraus, and yeah, the loyalness seems a legit reason. 20170823 13:04:25< DoctorFender1031> Either 4 loyal or unlimited (pending available funding) nonloyal 20170823 13:05:54-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 13:06:52< DoctorFender1031> zookeeper, "the most efficient" isn't always clear when there are multiple factors to consider. But any choice should always have various tradeoffs. No particular choice should be entirely superior to any other. But as Tecraus reminded me, this situation has the loyalness tradeoff. (Without it, it'd be a choice of 4 gryphons vs. unlimited gryphons, the former being obviously inferior.) 20170823 13:08:58< Tecraus> I'm actually trying to see if I can keep alive -all- my loyals through a challenging mode and they have survived Elensefar and Valley of Death so far. So seems pretty possible to not need any more Gryphons if you use them only as scouts. 20170823 13:10:55< zookeeper> well, as said you're not going to get any loyal gryphons there, so... 20170823 13:13:04< Tecraus> At first, I thought you could make Gryphons join you -and- give you the eggs, but I guess that's only my greedy imagination. hm... Why can I not find release notes of 1.13? I'm curious to see what else is changed. 20170823 13:14:22< wesnoth-discord-> Links to the release notes are in the release announcements on the forum 20170823 13:17:18< Tecraus> That's where I'm searching. If it's there, it's not apparent. 20170823 13:21:33-!- vultraz_iOS [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20170823 13:31:02< wesnoth-discord-> @Pentarctagon thank you. 20170823 13:47:27-!- HeyCitizen [~HeyCitize@sttrpq3809w-lp130-01-70-51-189-179.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 20170823 13:48:56-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6CBDF1A84E341FE293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170823 13:49:04-!- Tecraus [~jihfg@adsl-176.37.6.2.tellas.gr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 13:50:12-!- Tecraus [~jihfg@adsl-176.37.6.2.tellas.gr] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 13:51:15< Tecraus> For whoever may be interested, the complete changelog is there ---> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/master/changelog 20170823 13:51:46< Tecraus> I still can't find the forthmentioned change though... 20170823 14:06:38< zookeeper> was probably forgotten to add. 20170823 14:13:30< Tecraus> 1.12 is missing from that text. It goes from 1.11.11 to 1.13.0. Maybe the change was done somewhere between 1.12.6 and 1.13? 20170823 14:14:37< wesnoth-discord-> Oh, that's because 1.12 was branched off 1.11. The 1.12 changelog is here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/1.12/changelog 20170823 14:22:11< Tecraus> Thanks, but I still can't find it. Which is weird cause I know zookeeper is right, somewhere I've read it myself, I just can't remember where. 20170823 14:27:11-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.220.138.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20170823 14:31:51-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: mattsc] 20170823 14:33:01-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 14:49:59-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 14:51:25-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6C207EE39E5E8D87C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 14:53:36-!- Haudegen [~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 15:00:41-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 15:27:50-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20170823 15:28:16-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 16:02:10< Kwandulin> Argh, what was that command called that randomly picked a certain amount of tiles and repeated some WML for each of those? 20170823 16:04:56< Kwandulin> Ah, it's [random_placement]. But why doesn't that show up in the wiki sidebar? 20170823 16:33:33< zookeeper> i'm sure there is no good reason 20170823 16:37:48< DoctorFender1031> likely because whoever added it forgot to put it on the sidebar template as well. 20170823 16:38:49< DoctorFender1031> Though, on an open wiki like some of the others to which I contribute, the answer to "why doesn't the wiki document X" is typically "because YOU didn't put it there when you noticed it was missing" :P 20170823 16:38:54-!- bluespook [~Jabo@209.6.194.238] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 16:39:20-!- fortfoskett [~Jabo@209.6.194.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170823 16:40:40-!- vn971 [~vasya@95.31.7.253] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 16:49:15-!- vn971 [~vasya@95.31.7.253] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20170823 17:47:49-!- vultraz_iOS [uid24821@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 18:13:43-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3B6C207EE39E5E8D87C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20170823 18:30:13-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3BB9207EE39E5E8D87C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 18:47:53-!- Vadatajs [~Vadatajs@63-152-69-117.cdrr.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170823 18:48:53-!- Vadatajs [~Vadatajs@63-152-69-117.cdrr.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 19:05:13-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 19:18:55-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@p200300E453CC3BB9207EE39E5E8D87C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170823 19:22:52-!- Kranix [~magnus@xd520f683.cust.hiper.dk] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20170823 20:23:19-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has quit [Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish.] 20170823 21:11:27-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 21:29:57-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170823 21:32:38-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 22:06:03-!- Tecraus [~jihfg@adsl-176.37.6.2.tellas.gr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20170823 22:07:21-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170823 22:18:15-!- cyphase [~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 22:28:27-!- edaq [~edaq3@h69-21-227-85.cytnin.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 23:19:34-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20170823 23:35:34-!- mattsc [~mattsc@wesnoth/developer/mattsc] has joined #wesnoth 20170823 23:36:48-!- Bonobo [~Bonobo@203.220.138.162] has joined #wesnoth --- Log closed Thu Aug 24 00:00:25 2017