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20170902 05:32:05< senkwich> Hey folks
20170902 05:32:33< senkwich> I know it's a couple of years after the request for help, but was wondering if Wesnoth is still looking for contributors to the codebase.
20170902 05:33:07< senkwich> Just switched companies and got permission to contribute to Wesnoth on my personal time, so would be interested in pitching in.
20170902 05:39:28< senkwich> Oh, there's a link to check out for helping. Guess I'll look it over.
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20170902 06:36:58< JyrkiVesterinen> 20170901 23:21:33< gfgtdf> JyrkiVesterinen: did coverty really complain about those 'state_ = saved_game();' statements?
20170902 06:37:18< JyrkiVesterinen> Yes. More exactly, it complained about saved_game having a copy constructor.
20170902 06:37:43< JyrkiVesterinen> According to Coverity, saved_game is about 200 bytes large, and therefore very expensive to copy.
20170902 06:39:01< JyrkiVesterinen> (game_board and unit were even worse, at almost 2000 bytes each. Fortunately, copy constructors weren't _called_ for either.)
20170902 06:53:24< vultraz_iOS> isn't 200 bytes 0.2 KB?
20170902 06:53:32< JyrkiVesterinen> Yes.
20170902 06:53:41< vultraz_iOS> how is that expensive to copy?
20170902 06:54:02< vultraz_iOS> it seems so small :/
20170902 06:55:06< JyrkiVesterinen> Well, C++ scalar types are several bytes at most (double, long long, pointer, all 8 bytes assuming a 64-bit build).
20170902 06:55:21< JyrkiVesterinen> And even classes are rarely larger than several dozen bytes.
20170902 06:55:39< JyrkiVesterinen> (How on earth can game_board an unit be that massive?)
20170902 06:56:08< vultraz_iOS> unit stores a huge amount of info
20170902 06:56:45< vultraz_iOS> and the game_board stores all the units
20170902 06:56:54< vultraz_iOS> and team data
20170902 06:57:15< vultraz_iOS> among other things
20170902 06:58:20< JyrkiVesterinen> Storing all the units takes only about 20 bytes. The class itself stores only a STL container, which only maintains pointers to the actual storage in the heap.
20170902 07:00:02< vultraz_iOS> hm, then I don't know
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20170902 07:01:23< Necrosporus> Interesting. I have noticed that 5-3 stuff in attack description became 5x3
20170902 07:01:45< vultraz_iOS> indeed
20170902 07:01:49< Necrosporus> And that tutorial has changed, now units got traits in the first scenario, while in 1.12 they are traitless
20170902 07:02:19< Necrosporus> And exact point is no longer required, the task is just to move next to Delfador
20170902 07:02:39< Necrosporus> And it won't allow you to end turn until you meet the objectives
20170902 07:04:41< Necrosporus> "You wouldn't do anything stupid like charging the quintain yourself", Delfador says
20170902 07:05:03< Necrosporus> But in my case it was pretty rational to do, especially since Li'sar had full health bar
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20170902 07:16:26< Necrosporus> Now that Galrad doesn't force you to recruit/recall exactly two fighters two archers and shaman, that's good, I guess. It was annoying in 1.12
20170902 07:44:31< Necrosporus> It seems that in scenario 2 of tutorial the enemy has a lot more gold than in 1.12
20170902 07:45:43< Necrosporus> 123/150 starting gold
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20170902 07:47:43< irker666> wesnoth: Sofartin wesnoth:master 1f04013fa09b / src/desktop/version.cpp: Starting from 10.12 was 'OS X' renamed to 'macOS' (#1920) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1f04013fa09b2b82eeff5fab316cf53b48c253c1
20170902 07:51:40< Necrosporus> It seems that Orcs only had 100 gold before. It also seems Grunt would stay on Island now
20170902 07:52:30< Necrosporus> The strategy I have use in 1.12 which was not to recruit anything extra after the first castle would not work in 1.13
20170902 07:54:34< Necrosporus> Heir to the Throne is no longer the first campaign in the list
20170902 07:55:07< vultraz_iOS> indeed
20170902 07:57:48< Necrosporus> And now a first bug. "Log out" does not actually log you out
20170902 07:58:12< Necrosporus> I'm using master from today's build to be clear
20170902 07:58:24< vultraz_iOS> what do you mean?
20170902 07:58:31< vultraz_iOS> Not log you out
20170902 07:58:50< Necrosporus> Log out does not remove me from the server
20170902 07:58:56< vultraz_iOS> oh
20170902 07:59:03< vultraz_iOS> ok that's known
20170902 07:59:06< Necrosporus> It does close the lobby screen
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20170902 08:01:46< vultraz_iOS> yeah, i was trying to refactor something to clean it up and caused that
20170902 08:04:56< Necrosporus> vultraz_iOS, and is it the reason why lobby for 1.13 is empty?
20170902 08:05:06< Necrosporus> or it's some bug too and it's not empty?
20170902 08:05:34< vultraz_iOS> because no one's playing MP in 1.13 :P
20170902 08:06:31< Necrosporus> It seems that my laptop doesn't match requirements listed on 1.13 downloads minimal, yet it works
20170902 08:07:49< Necrosporus> Dual-core 2.0 GHz or better
20170902 08:08:14< Necrosporus> Mine is 800 to 1600 MHz
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20170902 08:30:01< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#14856 (master - 1f04013 : Sofartin): The build has errored.
20170902 08:30:01< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/271103347
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20170902 08:33:13< Necrosporus> Addon manager needs improving
20170902 08:33:41< vultraz_iOS> ?
20170902 08:34:03< Necrosporus> It's not that easy to get info on addon as you have to move cursor all the way to the corner and there is no context menu and double click starts installation instead of displaying info
20170902 08:34:34< Necrosporus> Also Esc exists addon-manager instead of just closing addon info or stopping download
20170902 08:34:37< vultraz_iOS> ?????
20170902 08:34:55< vultraz_iOS> oh, you must be on low resolution
20170902 08:37:16< Necrosporus> 1024x768 isn't that low
20170902 08:37:31< Necrosporus> It's not full-screen though
20170902 08:38:37< Necrosporus> Anyway it's not comfortable to say take list of all campaigns and read description of every single one
20170902 08:38:46< Necrosporus> There's no tooltip for them
20170902 08:40:05< vultraz_iOS> it's much nicer at higher reslolutions 
20170902 08:40:08< vultraz_iOS> resolutions 
20170902 08:43:07< Necrosporus> Woult it be hard to make it as good as 1.12 was on 1024x768 ?
20170902 08:44:24< vultraz_iOS> I'll see what I can do
20170902 08:49:06< Necrosporus> error general: An error due to possibly invalid WML occurred // The error message is :Mandatory widget 'addons' hasn't been defined. When reporting the bug please include the following error message: Condition '!must_exist || result' failed at wesnoth-master/src/gui/auxiliary/find_widget.hpp:74 in function 'find_widget'. /// It happened when i tried to install The Final Exam campaign from addons
20170902 08:49:22< Necrosporus> from its description to be exact
20170902 08:49:48< Necrosporus> When I reentered addon manager and pressed shield icon without entering description it did install
20170902 08:50:53-!- vultraz_iOS changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.9 scheduled for Sunday, September 17th, 00:00 UTC | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Discord Server: https://discord.gg/tSmJS2E | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
20170902 08:51:52< Necrosporus> vultraz_iOS, the most annoying thing is that Esc while downloading something closes addon manager completely instead of just cancelling, otherwise it's not that bad, since return to list and view info are on same spot, and scrolling could be done with keyboard
20170902 08:52:34< vultraz_iOS> oh dear :(
20170902 08:52:51< Necrosporus> Oh, it's reproduciable
20170902 08:52:59< Necrosporus> Shield + icon causes an error
20170902 08:53:05< Necrosporus> in addon details
20170902 08:55:25< vultraz_iOS> oh dear 
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20170902 09:28:56< Necrosporus> Weird, ctrl-r (as other ctrl hotkeys) stopped working for some reason. After I restarted Wesnoth it worked again
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20170902 10:55:34< gfgtdf> 20170902 06:37:43< JyrkiVesterinen> According to Coverity, saved_game is about 200 bytes large, and therefore very expensive to copy.
20170902 10:57:03< gfgtdf> JyrkiVesterinen: just for the record, in c++03 (before &&) these pass-by-value assiment operators were really best possible.
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20170902 12:07:18< irker958> wesnoth: gfgtdf wesnoth:master 20bf2b67842f / src/units/unit.cpp: fix #1837 empty tags missing in [store_unit] https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/20bf2b67842f62f9ba95448cdcafdb3df261cf20
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20170902 12:37:43< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/271143169
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20170902 14:07:49< irker958> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 228b97108cc5 / src/ (actions/attack.cpp units/types.cpp): strcmp is bad https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/228b97108cc5e0aba91e8909b0c1ab65a8a5e201
20170902 14:07:52< irker958> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master b5934273adef / src/ (14 files in 3 dirs): Added non-member swap() functions for classes with member swap() functions https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/b5934273adef618270d488d8ee5ecb0635560973
20170902 14:07:55< irker958> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 0588204bdf85 / src/units/unit.cpp: Fixup 20bf2b67842f https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/0588204bdf857f373dc221edb59814272bbf25b7
20170902 14:18:44< celticminstrel> Bad vultraz_iOS. :(
20170902 14:19:06< celticminstrel> Don't change things you don't understand!
20170902 14:19:29< vultraz_iOS> pls fix plox
20170902 14:19:36< celticminstrel> Fix it yourself.
20170902 14:19:50< celticminstrel> I explained it in the commit comments.
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20170902 14:34:13< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: do i just invert the conditions?
20170902 14:34:55< vultraz_iOS> including the one in units/?
20170902 14:35:45< celticminstrel> Yeah, all three are wrong.
20170902 14:35:54< celticminstrel> Wait, no.
20170902 14:36:04< celticminstrel> On second thoughts, looks like only the first two are wrong.
20170902 14:36:24< celticminstrel> If you look at my second paragraph in the comment, you can see why.
20170902 14:36:51< vultraz_iOS> i see
20170902 14:36:52< vultraz_iOS> ij
20170902 14:36:53< vultraz_iOS> ok
20170902 14:37:22< celticminstrel> Converting an int to bool is equivalent to "i != 0".
20170902 14:37:30< vultraz_iOS> right
20170902 14:38:09< irker958> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 4d537cca3b81 / src/actions/attack.cpp: Fixup 228b97108cc5 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/4d537cca3b8174f376c4ebf3a6c06b39b27c4ff6
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20170902 14:40:32< irker958> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master f733002a5ee9 / src/gui/dialogs/campaign_selection.cpp: GUI2/Campaign Selection: removed unnecessary laurel-not-found fallback https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f733002a5ee9d429715f3caf547bc2b4a7d6e564
20170902 14:40:55< vultraz_iOS> celticminstrel: we want to know if the image is not found
20170902 14:41:17< celticminstrel> We can't just make an exception if the image is an empty string?
20170902 14:42:03< celticminstrel> Basically, with that commit, I'll be seeing "Image not found" behind every campaign.
20170902 14:42:06< vultraz_iOS> well if the image is an empty string nothing is drawn at all
20170902 14:42:06< vultraz_iOS> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/blob/master/src/gui/core/canvas.cpp#L1067-L1070
20170902 14:42:12< celticminstrel> (Since I run with --debug for development.)
20170902 14:42:49< celticminstrel> Aha, so maybe we actually won't get the not found image?
20170902 14:42:55< vultraz_iOS> likely not
20170902 14:43:00< celticminstrel> 'kay
20170902 14:43:13< vultraz_iOS> you only get the INF image if you're attempting to draw an image and it's not found
20170902 14:43:18< vultraz_iOS> you can't not find nothing
20170902 14:46:42< vultraz_iOS> I'll build and see
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20170902 15:09:28< vultraz_iOS> ah
20170902 15:09:29< vultraz_iOS> nope
20170902 15:09:31< vultraz_iOS> im wrong
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20170902 15:12:50< irker958> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master f0be7b782dbc / src/gui/dialogs/campaign_selection.cpp: Fixup f733002 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f0be7b782dbc7d95dfa13fc3b48348d148d560d3
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20170902 17:57:52< irker958> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master 58d6f642dd60 / RELEASE_NOTES changelog players_changelog: Update changelogs and release notes https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/58d6f642dd60a3e404eb0002e43350338d046a76
20170902 17:59:46< gfgtdf> sigurdfd: the shows as incorrect chracters on github (changelog)
20170902 18:00:36< sigurdfd> gah
20170902 18:02:20< irker958> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master 3414d8d518d0 / changelog players_changelog: Fixup 58d6f642dd60a3e404eb0002e43350338d046a76 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3414d8d518d0e89f6d07c4eb9b04565ea4527883
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20170902 18:28:49< zookeeper> JyrkiVesterinen, nothing new on the double redraw fix thingy?
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20170902 18:32:21< JyrkiVesterinen> Nothing new indeed.
20170902 18:33:44< zookeeper> okay. just curious, is all :J
20170902 18:35:04< JyrkiVesterinen> When I make notable progress on something, I'll tell about it here. No need to ask me for status updates unless you don't read IRC logs.
20170902 18:35:19< zookeeper> roger
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20170902 18:45:00< irker958> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 27c84ea238c2 / data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/scenarios/20_Return_of_the_Fleet.cfg: TRoW S20: Hide Jessene's death as a lose condition until she returns https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/27c84ea238c289fb584aca4191c288f93f820aeb
20170902 18:45:12< zookeeper> sigurdfd, ^
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20170902 19:01:38< sigurdfd> zookeeper: ok. perhaps it should [show_objectives] in the turn 7 event when she returns as well?
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20170902 19:02:14< zookeeper> i considered that, but it's so obvious at that point that she can't die that i figured there's no point in bothering the player by popping up the objectives again just for that
20170902 19:03:05< sigurdfd> ? I thought that was just in the begining of the campaign.
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20170902 19:05:55< sigurdfd> oh, misunderstood
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20170902 19:21:39< irker958> wesnoth: Jeffrey 'Sigurd' Westcoat wesnoth:master 9e8f9b7c546b / data/campaigns/Two_Brothers/scenarios/01_Rooting_Out_a_Mage.cfg: AToTB S01: Grammer Fix (#1931) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/9e8f9b7c546b9cfb3ea51e5496285a32735a25b8
20170902 19:21:48< zookeeper> (btw the word is "grammar")
20170902 19:22:53< sigurdfd> urgh
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