--- Log opened Mon Sep 18 00:00:00 2017
20170918 00:00:00< EliDupree> Ah, Another thing that broken 1.13: I'm getting a stack overflow in one of my dialogs, it looks like wesnoth.set_dialog_value() is now triggering callbacks set by wesnoth.set_dialog_callback() when it didn't before – I'll have to prevent recursion manually
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20170918 00:10:51< gfgtdf> EliDupree: i don't think i ahve tome to look at it now, but on wihc version does it happen exactly?
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20170918 00:16:09< EliDupree> 1.13.8
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20170918 00:27:24< vultraz> Sup
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20170918 06:59:30< zookeeper> vultraz, so, what's the plan?
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20170918 11:47:39< irker230> wesnoth: ln-zookeeper wesnoth:master 6d8b42029346 / data/campaigns/Sceptre_of_Fire/scenarios/1_A_Bargain_is_Struck.cfg: SoF S1: Made Haldric less likely to die https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6d8b4202934637e819d75a77894d287402451acc
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20170918 12:00:43< vultraz> zookeeper: i'll see if i can work on it later today
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20170918 12:12:14< Ravana_> I find it strange that 1.13.1 and 1.12.4 are most recent releases on github
20170918 12:24:45< AI0867> I suspect that github releases are not in the release manual
20170918 12:24:51< AI0867> vultraz: ^
20170918 12:25:34< vultraz> Ah yes
20170918 12:25:35< vultraz> Ok
20170918 12:37:56< loonycyborg> isn't it from time when we were trying to use github as release platform instead of sf?
20170918 12:38:25< loonycyborg> maybe any remaing releases there should be just purged
20170918 12:38:38< vultraz> no
20170918 12:39:28< vultraz> in fact, the release process should be modified to accommodate GH
20170918 12:39:55< vultraz> I think we can avoid creating source tarballs if we do that, since it seems GH will generate them itself
20170918 12:40:00< vultraz> less work for loonycyborg 
20170918 12:41:43< loonycyborg> you sure? I think it still required you to upload stuff there
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20170918 12:53:27< zookeeper> i'll be away for a few hours, but i guess you're not going to release that soon. and i don't think i have anything massively important pending anyway.
20170918 12:56:42< loonycyborg> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/releases/new <- I don't see any way to make a tarball on server from here
20170918 12:57:09< loonycyborg> it only can get release tarballs from your local filesystem
20170918 12:57:22< loonycyborg> or whatever you're releasing
20170918 13:04:50< sevu> I think it iterates the release tarballs from the repo. 
20170918 13:05:20< sevu> Note that it will be *.tar.gz, so it will have a different checksum than our *.tar.bz2
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20170918 13:30:29< AI0867> I think it bases one off the tag
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20170918 15:29:24< Necrosporus> I have a question... Shadow wave, should it be translated as "Wave of shadow" or "Wave of shadows" or "Shadowy wave"?
20170918 15:30:19< Necrosporus> I mean in English it's simply concatenation of words "shadow" and "wave" which makes no sense in other languages if you simply concatenate two words 
20170918 15:31:35< Necrosporus> But you can say it as it's a wave which consists of shadows (multiple perhaps), or wave which is shadowy, or wave which is shadow...
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20170918 15:46:48< EliDupree> Hmm, I'm not seeing regular lua errors either (in either the chat or commandline output)
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20170918 16:20:54< shadowm> Necrosporus: You'll probably have to translate it however it sounds best.
20170918 16:21:23< shadowm> I really doubt whoever came up with the attack name in the first place has even been around for the past 10 years.
20170918 16:22:00< Necrosporus> But how do you understand its name?
20170918 16:22:37< shadowm> As far as I remember, the attack animation is composed of a single darkness magic-looking projectile.
20170918 16:23:10< Necrosporus> I think that back in 1.10 or 1.8 it did use same animation as chill wave
20170918 16:23:46< Necrosporus> In 1.12 and trunk it looks like round shadow on the ground travelling from attacker to defender
20170918 16:24:09< shadowm> Then you have an answer to your question. :D
20170918 16:25:32< Necrosporus> I think translation which would translate back as "wave of darkness"  perhaps should be OK?
20170918 16:27:19< shadowm> vultraz, loonycyborg: I don't think the tarballs GitHub offers respect export-ignore in .gitattributes but feel free to check by yourselves.
20170918 16:28:09< shadowm> Back in the day I ruled out using them for a wholly different reason anyway: one or more of the GitHub CDNs did not send a file size header back in the response.
20170918 16:28:30< shadowm> Meaning there would be no way for the person downloading the file to see the download progress.
20170918 16:28:52< shadowm> They also did not provide checksums at the time (and if they do now, it'd better be SHA256 or better).
20170918 16:28:58< EliDupree> Necrosporus: Yeah, that definitely seems reasonable
20170918 16:29:27< shadowm> loonycyborg: You'll probably have to relay all that I said to vultraz since he's too lazy to read IRC logs.
20170918 16:29:56< loonycyborg> great, I'm secretary's secretary now :P
20170918 16:30:42< shadowm> You're whose secretary?
20170918 16:30:51< JyrkiVesterinen> GitHub still doesn't provide tarball hashes.
20170918 16:31:07< shadowm> Then the matter is settled. No GitHub.
20170918 16:31:38< loonycyborg> nwm, j/k
20170918 16:32:15< shadowm> Technically, it is possible to upload your own tarballs to GitHub and provide the hashes somewhere else, but: 1) what I said about the buggy CDN above (which may or may not still be the case); and 2) you have to use a web browser to upload.
20170918 16:32:16< loonycyborg> but I didn't even see how it makes a tarball. does it automatically appear among downloads after you create release?
20170918 16:32:32< shadowm> It uses the tarball associated to the tag.
20170918 16:32:48< shadowm> You can optionally upload your own files that will be listed in *addition* to that.
20170918 16:32:58< shadowm> (And in addition to a zip file also associated to the tag.)
20170918 16:33:18< shadowm> But like I said, I don't think it honors .gitattributes.
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20170918 16:57:32< sevu> Is it a problem that it doesn't provide hashsums on its own, or that you don't see the download duration? The hashsums can be just posted at the end of the release post, which would be above the downloads
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20170918 16:59:42< sevu> Necrosporus, it's translated as shadow arrows into german, if that helps.
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20170918 17:29:57< EliDupree> caught return_to_play_side_exception, please report this bug (quitting)
20170918 17:30:17< EliDupree> That was when I ran I do_command during a theme item
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20170918 17:32:03< EliDupree> Although there might be more complications to it, still investigating
20170918 17:33:44< EliDupree> So... [do_command] makes the command happen immediately, rather than waiting for the end of the ongoing event/callback/etc? When IS it safe to call?
20170918 17:36:43< EliDupree> I can give a backtrace if you tell me where to break at (I imagine it wouldn't be very useful to have a backtrace where the exception is caught)
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20170918 18:01:02< sigurdfd> zookeeper: any issues with #1991 being merged?
20170918 18:01:58< zookeeper> sigurdfd, no, i was just waiting for you to be online so i could make sure you actually tested it :p
20170918 18:03:08< sigurdfd> yes, I have. I'll add changelog and merge shortly.
20170918 18:04:20< zookeeper> sure, great
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20170918 18:08:47< irker792> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master 5a5345f4a8d9 / data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/scenarios/22_Face_of_the_Enemy.cfg: DM S22: Fix spoiler and adjust difficulty and feel https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5a5345f4a8d974491fe63e563fa411f5af77e5c7
20170918 18:08:47< irker792> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master 05c8a0bb0e83 / data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/scenarios/21_Clash_at_the_Manor.cfg: DM S21: Fix objectives, improve dialog feel, rename enemy leader https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/05c8a0bb0e83df3dee9049042d66941214a82f2a
20170918 18:08:48< irker792> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master a7bec1f01f65 / data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/scenarios/21_Clash_at_the_Manor.cfg: DM S21: Adjust difficulty https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/a7bec1f01f657a980779eac5762f9e42a4c90a76
20170918 18:08:49< irker792> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master 517967520914 / data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/scenarios/21_Clash_at_the_Manor.cfg: DM S21: Make it explict that the Book is missing https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/51796752091406422ad4d624b87fea755b42f852
20170918 18:08:50< irker792> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master 5044036f8bfb / data/campaigns/Delfadors_Memoirs/scenarios/21_Clash_at_the_Manor.cfg: DM S21: Emphasis and clarity for defeat condition https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/5044036f8bfb1e3fce67746c6ae6e929ee3509a3
20170918 18:08:51< irker792> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master cee61b85158c / changelog players_changelog: Update changelogs https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/cee61b85158c511ebda2afb5e5798f37a24a1cbb
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20170918 18:51:44< EliDupree> Also, that message only appears if I move the mouse over the wesnoth screen while the game is starting – if I don't move the mouse, then it just crashes without giving a message.
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20170918 19:20:51< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#15042 (master - dca021e : Jyrki Vesterinen): The build was canceled.
20170918 19:20:51< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/276524596
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20170918 19:30:31< EliDupree> More investigation: [do_command] works in ordinary events and unsynced menu items, explicitly fails with an error message in synchronize_choice() and unsynced(), and unpredictably fails or crashes in theme items.
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20170918 19:33:01< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#15039 (master - 0bd159b : Gregory A Lundberg): The build was canceled.
20170918 19:33:01< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/276502236
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20170918 19:44:55< EliDupree> It does work in wesnoth.game_events.on_event, and interestingly also prevents you from moving. It works in wesnoth.game_events.on_mouse_move, but crashes in on_mouse_action.
20170918 19:49:12< EliDupree> Unrelated, from the changelog: "New wesnoth.show_menu function shows a dropdown menu at the mouse location"
20170918 19:49:22< EliDupree> wesnoth.show_menu doesn't seem to exist though?
20170918 19:50:18< EliDupree> At any rate it wasn't documented on the wiki and I couldn't find it in the source code
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20170918 19:52:09< EliDupree> Oh, I was looking in the wrong source file
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20170918 21:45:15< vultraz> loonycyborg: if you look at the 1.13.1 release you'll see it generated them automatically based on the tag
20170918 21:46:07< loonycyborg> you actually have read the log?
20170918 21:46:16< loonycyborg> anyway
20170918 21:46:30< loonycyborg> I see currently github as unneeded effort
20170918 21:46:47< loonycyborg> like it requires us to duplicate changelog on it too
20170918 21:47:07< loonycyborg> and I'd prefer if there was a way to make it generate hashes
20170918 21:47:15< loonycyborg> and bz2 archives
20170918 21:48:25< loonycyborg> as it is you'd need to gen those manually
20170918 21:48:36< loonycyborg> and uploading there isn't very convenient
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20170918 22:22:15< vultraz> Why do we need bz2
20170918 22:22:24< vultraz> (I didn't read the log)
20170918 22:23:02< vultraz> Is zip and tar.gz not enough
20170918 22:23:38< shadowm> Read the log.
20170918 22:23:50< vultraz> Alright
20170918 22:23:53< vultraz> I will read the log
20170918 22:25:59< vultraz> I am reading the log
20170918 22:28:13< vultraz> I have read the log
20170918 22:28:35< shadowm> Finally, you learned how to read logs.
20170918 22:28:58< vultraz> So, CDN, .gitattributes, and hashes
20170918 22:29:02< vultraz> Valid points.
20170918 22:29:05< shadowm> Now I can answer your question: bzip2 has better compression than gzip.
20170918 22:31:54< shadowm> The difference for us is not huge, mind you (I think it's in the order of 10 to 50 MB) but for people like me it's more than welcome.
20170918 22:32:48< shadowm> I'd have switched to xz if the computational cost (back when I had to build the tarball on wesnoth.org) didn't outweigh the benefit even further (IIRC it'd save less than 10 MB).
20170918 22:33:59< shadowm> Also, for anyone who is wondering, yes, the add-ons servers for 1.12 and 1.13 are down to prevent config corruption.
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20170918 22:45:04< irker760> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master 8380845b902a / src/campaign_server/campaign_server.cpp: campaignd: Fix bug causing new uploads to replace server.cfg on disk https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8380845b902a7fe9dd898861bc14b50f4f2f4a7e
20170918 22:45:04< irker760> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:1.12 01062617a10c / src/campaign_server/campaign_server.cpp: campaignd: Fix bug causing new uploads to replace server.cfg on disk https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/01062617a10cd4289fc3b3bebe4c76910e5c5ee8
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20170918 23:10:39< sevu> Some numbers about the compression of the wesnoth tarballs, with 1.13.1 (last github release):
20170918 23:10:59< sevu> 674M as .tar (uncompressed)
20170918 23:11:18< sevu> 411M as tar.gz (263M less)
20170918 23:11:59< sevu> 377M as tar.bz2 (34M additional saving)
20170918 23:12:28< sevu> 357M as tar.xz (20M more saving)
20170918 23:12:41< shadowm> Why didn't you use the latest release instead?
20170918 23:13:03< sevu> I had the last github release still on disk
20170918 23:13:23< matthiaskrgr> woooow new wesnoth.org design looks fancy 
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20170918 23:13:57< shadowm> The problem at the time was that on wesnoth.org xz takes at least thrice as long as bzip2.
20170918 23:14:21< matthiaskrgr> sevu: do you have a link to the tarball?
20170918 23:14:31< matthiaskrgr> the 1.13.1 one :)
20170918 23:14:46< sevu> but it's a matter of a few minutes, and a one time task
20170918 23:15:03< sevu> https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/releases
20170918 23:15:04< shadowm> EliDupree: You uploaded Era of High Sorcery to the 1.13 add-ons server for the first time recently, right?
20170918 23:15:24< EliDupree> A much older version has been on that server for a long time, but I did upload a new version recently
20170918 23:15:39< matthiaskrgr> thx
20170918 23:16:13< shadowm> EliDupree: You removed the older version before uploading the new one?
20170918 23:16:26< EliDupree> At least, I think there was already a version on there? I'm not totally sure
20170918 23:17:20< EliDupree> Maybe there never was one and I just assumed that because I wasn't used to the new add-on list interface
20170918 23:18:53< EliDupree> Why do you ask?
20170918 23:19:11< shadowm> Because there's been an issue. You'll have to reupload the add-on soon.
20170918 23:19:25< EliDupree> got it
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