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20170930 02:00:49< celticminstrel> Apparently I o/ 'd in the wrong channel. >_>
20170930 02:01:03< celticminstrel> ...is 1.13.10 seriously still pending?
20170930 02:01:16< Necrosporus> It seems like so
20170930 02:01:21< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, do you use windows?
20170930 02:01:28< celticminstrel> Sometimes?
20170930 02:07:06< Necrosporus> I want a quick test from somebody using windows or mac
20170930 02:11:17< celticminstrel> Sorry, probably can't test anything today. Maybe tomorrow.
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20170930 03:01:01< Necrosporus> Hello, fabi 
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20170930 05:20:59< shadowm> Can anyone tell me what this WML ability is supposed to do? https://pastebin.com/S5La8k6d
20170930 05:21:23< shadowm> (You're not allowed to tell me if you know where it's from.)
20170930 05:27:47< Necrosporus> OK, I do not know where it from. I can say that I can't figure it out without consulting wml manual on [skirmisher] tag
20170930 05:28:36< shadowm> Yeah, that disqualifies you as well.
20170930 05:36:29< Necrosporus> I think I figured what it means, though I'm not completely sure how does it behave in game
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20170930 06:53:55< zookeeper> shadowm, uh, hmm, grants skirmisher to allies on adjacent hexes which are not adjacent to any lvl2+ enemies?
20170930 06:55:13< zookeeper> so... distract, but only "against" lvl1 units. i think. i wonder why you ask, but i doubt you're going to tell.
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20170930 07:19:54< Necrosporus> I wonder if the ability will be revoked if allied units move away, or if it will be granted on passing by
20170930 07:21:49< shadowm> zookeeper: Mostly because it seemed to not be working in a specific situation where there were no L2+ enemies around, but then it worked later.
20170930 07:22:49< shadowm> I'm also curious if the original code's logic (which wasn't working in that situation either, but I didn't get to see if it worked later) is any different to that: https://github.com/project-ethea/Invasion_from_the_Unknown/blob/master/macros/abilities.cfg#L137
20170930 07:24:15< shadowm> (I really wish this stuff could be written in an imperative language like Lua instead of this confusing crap.)
20170930 07:24:41< zookeeper> well, it won't/can't make the enemy unit lose their ZoC everywhere around them, only on hexes that are also adjacent to the intimidator
20170930 07:25:10< zookeeper> so that kind of contradicts the ability description already
20170930 07:25:34< shadowm> Uh.
20170930 07:25:42< shadowm> Well, that's a problem.
20170930 07:26:14< shadowm> And that explains why replacing the Bone Shooter with a bat here didn't let the bat get past the enemy unit: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318827821567049737/363539199749652483/unknown.png
20170930 07:26:24< zookeeper> if you want the other unit to lose their ZoC, then you have to give _them_ a skirmisher ability (that affects adjacent enemies)
20170930 07:26:30< shadowm> (The intimidates unit is the unit south from the Bone Shooter.)
20170930 07:27:05< shadowm> Ugh, that's simply not going to happen. I can't be bothered to write event-based abilities without a good reason.
20170930 07:27:21< zookeeper> having your abilities work the way you want is not a good reason? :p
20170930 07:27:44< shadowm> Not anymore.
20170930 07:27:52< shadowm> I guess I'll just reword the ability description.
20170930 07:28:05< zookeeper> okay. it's not too bad now in 1.13 with the unit placed event, anyhow.
20170930 07:28:42< shadowm> Still a long way to go before I feel confident in porting this mess to 1.13.x.
20170930 07:28:51< shadowm> Especially given the current state of affairs in mainline.
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20170930 09:11:18< Necrosporus> It seems that add-on list is not updated in web version as fast as in in-game version
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20170930 14:26:35< Necrosporus> Hello, vultraz. 
20170930 14:26:41< vultraz> hello
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20170930 14:33:09< Necrosporus> Do you think weird error messages worth reporting if there is no obvious problem in game itself?
20170930 14:34:15< vultraz> what is the message
20170930 14:37:58< Necrosporus> I think that it could be image path function regression
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20170930 14:55:18< irker789> wesnoth: Severin Glöckner wesnoth:master 7605943e80df / data/campaigns/Dead_Water/units/ (Child_King.cfg Soldier_King.cfg Warrior_King.cfg Young_King.cfg): DW: add hit sound to the king https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/7605943e80dfe3515d23564dc138e5f2d2315bb3
20170930 15:04:32< zookeeper> oh, well spotted.
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20170930 23:02:25< irker392> wesnoth: doofus-01 wesnoth:master 394e4bdc8a8b / data/core/terrain-graphics.cfg: filling in some gaps with Ke* terrains with other keeps, so they behave like Ce* https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/394e4bdc8a8b1c81b1c541c119615465aba6369d
20170930 23:03:39< irker392> wesnoth: doofus-01 wesnoth:master 6bf3c4711d0d / data/core/ (terrain-graphics.cfg terrain-graphics/new-macros.cfg): [terrain_graphics] Castle neighbor bleed-through (sand, snow)  (#2039) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6bf3c4711d0d98270857d090c67e538bbf4df018
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20170930 23:39:49< irker392> wesnoth: doofus-01 wesnoth:master 62d4368a19ba / data/core/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [terrain_graphics] chasm transitions to lower layer (#2056) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/62d4368a19ba5bfcdcc3346cc7c83cf67eb58a36
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