--- Log opened Fri Sep 15 00:00:54 2017 20170915 00:02:25-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170915 01:04:26-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p2E5112AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance.] 20170915 01:51:50-!- Johannes13__ [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has joined #wesnoth 20170915 01:55:11-!- Johannes13 [~Johannes1@unaffiliated/johannes13] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20170915 02:09:26-!- molgrum [~molgrum@unaffiliated/molgrum] has joined #wesnoth 20170915 02:19:37-!- edaq [~edaq3@h69-21-227-85.cytnin.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #wesnoth 20170915 02:27:40-!- ArneBab_ [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has joined #wesnoth 20170915 02:32:01-!- ArneBab [~quassel@freenet/developer/arnebab] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20170915 03:08:16< wesnoth-discord-> the honorable game developers battle of wesnnoth I have a problem that I can not play online because my simcard address is banned online, for that matter please be given waivers on things I do if there is a mistake from the user wingsfalcon 20170915 03:13:40< wesnoth-discord-> anyone respone my chat? 20170915 03:14:17< Polsaker> you were banned on the official server? 20170915 03:26:49< wesnoth-discord-> yes 20170915 03:29:05< Polsaker> did the mods say why? 20170915 03:31:41< wesnoth-discord-> no 20170915 03:32:42< Polsaker> does any message appear when you try to connect? 20170915 03:36:30< wesnoth-discord-> yes , "you are banned reason n00bs on duration 7 days" but i am not n00bs player 20170915 03:36:59< DeFender1031> That's not why you were banned, nor is being a noob a bannable offense. 20170915 03:37:22< DeFender1031> Polsaker, wingsfalcon is a known troll. 20170915 03:39:09< wesnoth-discord-> Defender1031 i am not troll player 20170915 03:47:54< wesnoth-discord-> Polsaker, what your actions? 20170915 04:08:33-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] 20170915 04:40:42-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@pD9FD50F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170915 05:58:03< wesnoth-discord-> @artic_warrior If you have an objection to a ban, please send a forum PM to the Multiplayer Moderators group, as per the rules: https://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=24277#w0mpmods 20170915 06:10:02< Necrosporus> > It's at least a little more verbose than the usual behavior on LInux where the program just vanishes and you don't even get to know if it received a signal unless you have a pseudoterminal attached to it. // sigsegvs appear in dmesg 20170915 06:14:33< Necrosporus> Oh, there are bans on multiplayer server? 20170915 06:16:21< wesnoth-discord-> Yep. Though currently you can log in without needing to register, so they aren't always the most useful thing in the world either. 20170915 06:30:54< DeFender1031> @Pentarctagon, are there not IP bans? 20170915 06:33:47< wesnoth-discord-> There are, but IPs usually change eventually on their own, and it doesn't take that long to be able to connect from a different IP if you really wanted to. VPNs, proxies, and such. 20170915 06:35:58< wesnoth-discord-> There isn't any sort of completely foolproof way to block someone determined obviously, just because the internet is what it is, but requiring a registration on the forums would be one more barrier to make it less convenient to evade a ban. 20170915 06:36:22< DeFender1031> Of course, but that's a drawback of any ban system. Even ones where you can create accounts, if accounts can be created freely, people can just create multiple accounts. 20170915 06:36:46< wesnoth-discord-> Whereas currently forum registration effectively just "reserves" the username for you. 20170915 06:37:31< DeFender1031> Requiring forum registration could work, though it could be annoying if there was no way to register in-game. 20170915 06:37:58< DeFender1031> But even so, it'd still be impossible to block someone completely, since they could just create a new account. 20170915 06:38:06< DeFender1031> As you said, internet is what it is. 20170915 06:39:40< wesnoth-discord-> Yep - ease of use is also one of the reasons unregistered users are still allowed, in fact. 20170915 06:39:50< wesnoth-discord-> It's a double edged sword, to be sure. 20170915 06:41:36< wesnoth-discord-> Also, not wanting to require people to create Yet Another Account just for wesnoth MP. Though there is also an issue open for 1.14 to allow logging in with your steam account as well. 20170915 06:42:29< wesnoth-discord-> Doesn't sound like it'd be possible though: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/issues/1712 20170915 06:42:39< wesnoth-discord-> I think allowing Steam accounts is unlikely. No one is willing to work on it. 20170915 06:43:25< wesnoth-discord-> Yeah, I just mention it since it is still listed as a 1.14 milestone goal though. 20170915 06:47:28-!- edaq [~edaq3@h69-21-227-85.cytnin.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20170915 07:09:23-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20170915 07:55:13-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@pD9FD50F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20170915 08:20:50-!- Kwandulin [~Kwandulin@pD9FD50F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #wesnoth 20170915 08:32:12-!- Necrosporus is now known as Guest82166 20170915 08:32:12-!- Necrosporus_ [~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has joined #wesnoth 20170915 08:32:13-!- Guest82166 [~Necrospor@unaffiliated/necrosporus] has quit [Killed (weber.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 20170915 08:32:13-!- Necrosporus_ is now known as Necrosporus 20170915 08:55:01-!- Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87] has joined #wesnoth 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