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20171010 00:19:46< sevu> warning unit: Unknown attribute 'faction_lock' discarded.
20171010 00:19:58< sevu> shouldn't happen
20171010 00:20:55< sevu> I get this when loading ANL
20171010 00:29:00< sevu> Ravana_, it seems that having type=sp/mp/hybrid will cause macros to be redefined, in difference to type=hybrid
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20171010 00:50:50< vultraz> *pokes celticminstrel again*
20171010 00:50:52< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 80526e838779 / src/ai/lua/engine_lua.cpp: AI/Lua Engine: further cleanup of shared_ptr creation/assignment https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/80526e83877915eb83447a64ad34829b2a2d9628
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20171010 01:02:05< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 2d7857c59ba7 / src/team.cpp: Team: reformatted list of allowed [side] keys https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/2d7857c59ba7a20c1d76d2a60392db4f52223e0d
20171010 01:02:08< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 3bca7078ef5a / src/team.cpp: Team: added faction_lock and leader_lock to list of allowed [side] keys https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3bca7078ef5aa45e22aedf12e4b0774169b1b9e0
20171010 01:02:13< vultraz> sevu: ^
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20171010 01:12:12< TadCarlucci> [lundberg@lundberg-arch wesnoth]$ scons
20171010 01:12:12< TadCarlucci> scons: Reading SConscript files ...
20171010 01:12:12< TadCarlucci> NameError: name 'file' is not defined:
20171010 01:12:12< TadCarlucci>   File "/home/lundberg/wesnoth/SConstruct", line 20:
20171010 01:12:12< TadCarlucci>     optfile = file(GetOption("option_cache"))
20171010 01:18:40< sevu> vultraz, thanks, fixed
20171010 01:18:57< sevu> TadCarlucci, it's the update to scons 3.0.0
20171010 01:19:30< TadCarlucci> ?
20171010 01:19:40< TadCarlucci> So scons is broke until someone figures this out?
20171010 01:20:55< sevu> I don't know. I googled a bit, could be, but maybe this reports which I saw talk about sth. else. Maybe the SConstruct just isn't ready for python3.
20171010 01:22:06< TadCarlucci> the file() function is a python function?
20171010 01:22:43< sevu> I don't know. replacing it with open works. 9 lines later is the next problem
20171010 01:23:15< TadCarlucci> That fits with what I just read about Python.
20171010 01:24:02< TadCarlucci> OK. If there are cascading problems, I'll just assume scons is hopeless until I see a fix for it on Master.
20171010 01:24:45< sevu> I downgraded scons
20171010 01:25:35< TadCarlucci> I could do that, but I sorta like being constantly reminded that it needs work. Might get me upset enough to do something about it. Just not tonight.
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20171010 01:27:29< sevu> Added it to NoUpgrade too. Pacman reminds me now with every update.
20171010 01:32:13< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 d733ff5b8048 / src/SConscript: Scons: merge strict mode flags with normal ones for Lua build https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d733ff5b804860398d8a46f184537f9f69e512d3
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20171010 01:36:18< celticminstrel> vultraz: No, that's merging the "clang" and "strict" tests, I just suggested removing the "strict" test.
20171010 01:36:33< celticminstrel> Basically replace
20171010 01:36:40< vultraz> ....
20171010 01:36:41< celticminstrel> "strict" in env and XXX or []
20171010 01:36:43< celticminstrel> with
20171010 01:36:45< vultraz> now you show up :|
20171010 01:36:46< celticminstrel> just XXX
20171010 01:36:58< celticminstrel> Sorry, was watching a movie.
20171010 01:37:19< vultraz> can you fix it, then
20171010 01:37:38< celticminstrel> Why do I have to fix your mistake.
20171010 01:37:48< celticminstrel> You could've simply waited until I showed up, too.
20171010 01:37:52< vultraz> because I told you, I don't know what I'm doing
20171010 01:38:08< celticminstrel> Replace
20171010 01:38:09< celticminstrel> "strict" in env and Split("-Wno-old-style-cast -Wno-useless-cast") or []
20171010 01:38:11< celticminstrel> with
20171010 01:38:17< celticminstrel> Split("-Wno-old-style-cast -Wno-useless-cast")
20171010 01:38:37< celticminstrel> ie just 'delete "strict" in env and' and 'or []'
20171010 01:39:32< celticminstrel> FTR the change you made won't fix it.
20171010 01:39:46< celticminstrel> Since you said it was on GCC and that change applies only to clang.
20171010 01:39:55< celticminstrel> ...unless it's the other way around, hold on...
20171010 01:40:03< vultraz> it was on gcc
20171010 01:41:03< vultraz> you mean line
20171010 01:41:04< vultraz> like
20171010 01:41:08< celticminstrel> Yeah, the change you made means "never apply those warnings on GCC" whereas before it was "apply these warnings on all Linux compilers but only for non-strict builds"
20171010 01:41:21< vultraz> CCFLAGS = ["$CCFLAGS", "clang" in env["CXX"] and Split("-Wno-parentheses-equality -Wno-pointer-bool-conversion") or [], Split("-Wno-old-style-cast -Wno-useless-cast") or []],
20171010 01:41:28< celticminstrel> Yes.
20171010 01:41:34< celticminstrel> That looks about right.
20171010 01:41:50< celticminstrel> Oh, drop the extraneous "or []" near the end too
20171010 01:42:03< celticminstrel> Leaving it there won't break it, at least.
20171010 01:43:08< celticminstrel> It's just about as silly as "if(true or some_condition)"
20171010 01:43:32< celticminstrel> (Just instead of literal true it's an expression that's always true.)
20171010 01:44:01< celticminstrel> Just to be quite clear, only the second "or []" is extraneous.
20171010 01:47:28< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 6651241597b1 / src/SConscript: Scons: remove strict flag for Lua build https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6651241597b1dccb5e5b4a36e2b69a94205ec8cf
20171010 01:47:42< vultraz> thanks
20171010 01:48:11< celticminstrel> More like ignore than remove, but whatever.
20171010 01:48:23< celticminstrel> (About the commit message.)
20171010 01:49:46< vultraz> I'll merge if all builds pass
20171010 01:50:09< celticminstrel> Would be nice if tad comments on it though... but I guess not essential.
20171010 01:51:57< shadowm>   -rw-r--r-- 1 shadowm shadowm 26 Apr  3  2014 Dropbox/sdelete.exe:Zone.Identifier:$DATA
20171010 01:52:10< shadowm> This must've been here for a while.
20171010 01:52:14< shadowm> Thanks, Windows.
20171010 01:52:47< celticminstrel> ...what?
20171010 01:53:13< shadowm> Like I said the other day, : is a valid filename character in Windows, it's just used for Alternate Data Streams in NTFS.
20171010 01:53:55< shadowm> Apparently at some point I uploaded a file that had one attached to it marking it as an untrusted executable from the Internets.
20171010 01:54:49< shadowm> And Dropbox is more than happy to sync that.
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20171010 02:01:22< sigurdfd> vultraz: the spirtpo changes broke my build. errors are:
20171010 02:01:24< sigurdfd> src/spirit_po/exceptions.hpp:24:3: error: 'uint' was not declared in this scope
20171010 02:01:24< sigurdfd> src/spirit_po/exceptions.hpp:25:23: error: 'count' was not declared in this scope
20171010 02:01:27< sigurdfd> any ideas?
20171010 02:02:47< sigurdfd> my build is a win/scons/gcc/mingw
20171010 02:07:07< vultraz> hm
20171010 02:07:12< vultraz> i guess you do need to add the #include <spirit_po/default_plural_forms_expressions.hpp> back
20171010 02:12:50< sigurdfd> do you want me to test and merge it, or are you going to add it?
20171010 02:12:57< vultraz> you can
20171010 02:13:01< sigurdfd> ok
20171010 02:13:52< sigurdfd> that's added in the spirit_po/exceptions.hpp, correct?
20171010 02:14:07< vultraz> yes
20171010 02:14:15< sigurdfd> ok
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20171010 02:50:21< irker759> wesnoth: sigurdfdragon wesnoth:master f80ae1ba5e40 / src/spirit_po/exceptions.hpp: Fixup 6f952a0daec4 (Update Spirit Po sources from source repo) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/f80ae1ba5e40a344d369599f38b0c00c934ef9d2
20171010 02:50:36< sigurdfd> vultraz: thanks
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20171010 03:39:19< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#15234 (lua_5.3.4 - 6651241 : Charles Dang): The build failed.
20171010 03:39:19< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/285861773
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20171010 03:40:06< vultraz> celticminstrel: well that didn't work :/
20171010 03:41:36< celticminstrel> ...wait, -Werror=old-style-cast is being passed?
20171010 03:41:53< celticminstrel> Or no, it says "all warnings" so it's probably just -Werror...?
20171010 03:43:16< celticminstrel> Ahh, I see, the problem lies in a header, that's why changing env_lua didn't work.
20171010 03:46:18< celticminstrel> I'm not sure what the best way is to fix this.
20171010 03:46:44< celticminstrel> But I think it'll probably need to involve editing luaconf.h.
20171010 03:46:46< vultraz> merge and let someone else figure it out? :p
20171010 03:47:02< celticminstrel> That's not a good idea and you know it. :P
20171010 03:47:03< vultraz> scons builds are apparently broken anyway
20171010 03:47:40< vultraz> (see what tad said earlier)
20171010 03:48:14< celticminstrel> ???
20171010 03:48:31< vultraz> see logs
20171010 03:48:43< vultraz> or just scroll up it's not that long ago
20171010 03:49:17< celticminstrel> Oh that.
20171010 03:49:24< celticminstrel> That's only if you upgrade scons, or something.
20171010 03:49:33< celticminstrel> It's not that big a deal.
20171010 03:49:43< celticminstrel> It was sevu who said it first actually.
20171010 03:49:52< celticminstrel> ...what was the second problem again...?
20171010 03:50:07< vultraz> what?
20171010 03:50:13< vultraz> second problem?
20171010 03:50:29< celticminstrel> Oh right, the fact that get_contents() returns bytes instead of string.
20171010 03:50:47< vultraz> anyway, this is a build system problem not a problem with my PR
20171010 03:51:38< vultraz> maybe we should define LUA_FLOAT_LONGDOUBLE?
20171010 03:51:43< celticminstrel> I think it might actually be a problem with your PR, given that the specific error you encounter hasn't been reported by anyone else.
20171010 03:52:04< vultraz> Probably new code in 5.3.4
20171010 03:52:05< celticminstrel> I personally wouldn't object to using long doubles for Lua numbers, but I suspect some other people might.
20171010 03:52:16< vultraz> alright, let us consult tad..
20171010 03:52:20< vultraz> assuming he responds
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20171010 04:53:30< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 413897a10380 / src/lua/luaconf.h: Force static value for LUAL_BUFFERSIZE https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/413897a10380c36c89cfd04073a39495bc0318b8
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20171010 05:04:12< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 af57057799de / src/lua/ (26 files): Upgrade to Lua 5.3.4 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/af57057799de74493a9e3789f2602288cad3c283
20171010 05:04:15< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 6d25c53d1bb7 / src/lua/lparser.cpp: Apply Lua.org patch https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/6d25c53d1bb70e4056513bce12ae7b6e030859ae
20171010 05:04:18< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 8a5b0d339d1f / src/lua/ldebug.cpp: Apply Lua.org patch https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8a5b0d339d1f8875499c9c6e62cab93e80b5c5b4
20171010 05:04:21< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 3347bd096a26 / src/lua/lgc.cpp: Apply Lua.org patch https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3347bd096a26845b7b855cd1b3691facde142f11
20171010 05:04:24< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 8862f2a9c183 / src/wesnoth_lua_config.md: Updated Lua update guide https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8862f2a9c183e7e7b1b44458eaa159e32c486571
20171010 05:04:27< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 62ef37a2174c / changelog: Updated changelog for Lua upgrade https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/62ef37a2174c56645bd3e6345ffea8ee2289e544
20171010 05:04:30< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:lua_5.3.4 0141c8e77351 / src/lua/luaconf.h: Force static value for LUAL_BUFFERSIZE https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/0141c8e77351d48748117d77d53343611673d10c
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20171010 05:14:35< JyrkiVesterinen> vultraz, celticminstrel: I believe that using long doubles for lua numbers would mean significant performance loss.
20171010 05:15:14< JyrkiVesterinen> On IA-32, long doubles can only be processed with old x87 instructions. SSE2 can't be used.
20171010 05:15:38< JyrkiVesterinen> Thay are also too big to fit in SE registers and therefore need to be stored in memory.
20171010 05:15:41< JyrkiVesterinen> *SSE
20171010 05:15:42< vultraz> See PR discussion
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20171010 06:59:28< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#15242 (lua_5.3.4 - 0141c8e : Charles Dang): The build was fixed.
20171010 06:59:28< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/285895559
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20171010 07:04:14< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master b5bcee1b2d94 / src/lua/ (26 files): Upgrade to Lua 5.3.4 https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/b5bcee1b2d942f09fea2b38e8c3ef61e7ca364ae
20171010 07:04:17< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 217d2e1a15a7 / src/lua/lparser.cpp: Apply Lua.org patch https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/217d2e1a15a777085bf7769f0b85d8a4786580f2
20171010 07:04:20< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 1c05370e4e86 / src/lua/ldebug.cpp: Apply Lua.org patch https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1c05370e4e86b96d3bbb7ce5ea41c9dfaa61919d
20171010 07:04:23< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 0deaecccf9c5 / src/lua/lgc.cpp: Apply Lua.org patch https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/0deaecccf9c5f9550db579a704d9adb67aae534c
20171010 07:04:26< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master bca27dc5baf5 / src/wesnoth_lua_config.md: Updated Lua update guide https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/bca27dc5baf595d6dfef151b73c8ce6ffd72bfff
20171010 07:04:29< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 8cb78ecf12fc / changelog: Updated changelog for Lua upgrade https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8cb78ecf12fcc031c3adbec15d0dde63f5378871
20171010 07:04:32< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master d0100758f855 / src/lua/luaconf.h: Force static value for LUAL_BUFFERSIZE https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/d0100758f855ec0d8f30dff41e8a8b6ff2d45fda
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20171010 08:36:02< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master fd2d44f783f3 / src/mouse_events.cpp: Mouse Events: formatting cleanup https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/fd2d44f783f39423608d178ea850b233507d9786
20171010 08:36:05< irker759> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master 8e388c1b3557 / src/ (game_display.cpp game_display.hpp mouse_events.cpp mouse_events.hpp): Fixed context menu showing when deselecting unit with right click (fixes #1908) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/8e388c1b3557f436cd524fb35572e40c739043ba
20171010 08:36:10< vultraz> zookeeper: ^
20171010 08:38:29< zookeeper> \o/
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20171010 08:52:33-!- vultraz changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.13.10 tagging pending | Wesnoth Developers Channel | >>> Want to help? Go here: http://r.wesnoth.org/t42911 (and thanks!) <<< | Discord Server: https://discord.gg/tSmJS2E | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Bug tracker: http://bugs.wesnoth.org
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20171010 09:55:43< zookeeper> vultraz, looks like the context menu still opens if you desect with a right-click on top of another unit
20171010 09:55:50< zookeeper> deselect, even
20171010 09:55:52< vultraz> HM
20171010 09:55:54< vultraz> HM HM HM
20171010 09:56:21< JyrkiVesterinen> Well, it's still much better than before.
20171010 09:56:22< vultraz> yeeees I see
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20171010 09:59:05< vultraz> hmmmm
20171010 10:12:29< vultraz> this is more complicated
20171010 10:30:22< Necrosporus> zookeeper, if you rightclick on another unit it probably means that you want to see other unit description or something, doesn't it?
20171010 10:31:28< Necrosporus> vultraz, do you think it's not even better than old behavior? Why would you deselect by clicking other unit/
20171010 10:32:05< Necrosporus> Except maybe if map is full of units
20171010 10:32:25< JyrkiVesterinen> IMO, the most intuitive option is "deselect by right-clicking anything except the currently selected unit".
20171010 10:32:39< JyrkiVesterinen> If you want to select another unit, you can always left-click.
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20171010 10:52:23< Necrosporus> Maybe. I am OK with any behavior, even `bug` one.
20171010 10:53:48< JyrkiVesterinen> I'm OK with the current behavior, but would prefer the old one.
20171010 10:54:11< JyrkiVesterinen> (i.e. before the "open context menu on release" change)
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20171010 11:14:23< irker759> wesnoth: Wedge009 wesnoth:master 3be534605174 / projectfiles/VC12/ (wesnoth.vcxproj.filters wesnothlib.vcxproj wesnothlib.vcxproj.filters): Updating VC project files for 010237fb and c4d55647. https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3be5346051747f0e783d2ea5a2b93ce5ca2011c2
20171010 11:24:40< Necrosporus> Does WML supports stuff like \uABCD ?
20171010 11:25:08< Necrosporus> Such as you can use a unicode character in a text string without actually typing that character
20171010 11:25:36< Necrosporus> Could be useful in case if you want to be able to edit your source in UTF-8 unavare editors
20171010 11:48:01< vultraz> Yes
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20171010 13:03:49< sevu> Necrosporus, could be a pain to read the code
20171010 13:08:39< Necrosporus> sevu, well, it will save authors from unexpected breakages if files are resaved in dumb editors
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20171010 13:21:39< sevu> sure. but I don't see it as an improvement.
20171010 13:29:58< sevu> I just got to know that Apple has a new FS, for about a year. APFS. It doesn't do unicode normalization.
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20171010 15:07:21< irker464> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master da7a9471e82a / src/mouse_events.cpp: Fix: mouse_handler::unselected_reach_ was uninitialized https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/da7a9471e82a3783d153677e87d81a372daf2b61
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20171010 15:34:53< shadowm> Necrosporus: Stop sending me private messages on IRC over stuff that can be discussed here.
20171010 15:36:27< Necrosporus> OK. add-on web version has image-not-found instead of game-icon.png while images/game-icon exist in 1.12.6 data directory and add-on is in 1.12 server
20171010 15:37:51< shadowm> Because it uses the 1.13.x data dir and WAM script.
20171010 15:38:00< shadowm> There's no /images/game-icon.png on 1.13.x.
20171010 15:41:43< EliDupree> My AI is recruiting nothing but Fencers :o
20171010 15:46:24< DeFender1031> EliDupree, fencers are the best, clearly.
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20171010 16:14:41< Necrosporus> find images data/core/images -type f \( -exec test -f ../wesnoth/{} \; -o -exec echo cp -vi {} ../wesnoth/{} \; \)
20171010 16:15:14< Necrosporus> This command (with appropriate editing of directory names) should add all images from 1.12 which are missing in 1.13
20171010 16:15:56< Necrosporus> Unfortunately find only can spit filename literally when {} are used, so it has to be run from 1.12 directory
20171010 16:31:26< irker464> wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel wesnoth:master cb5de97b8414 / src/addon/client.cpp: Do local checks before uploading to the addon server https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/cb5de97b8414b3a8bac50dedad3cf3133f431866
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20171010 16:51:14< sevu> Does the new implementation of the leadership ability work in 1.12 too?
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20171010 16:54:09< zookeeper> sevu, IIRC no
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20171010 16:55:18< sevu> okay, thanks
20171010 17:17:58< irker464> wesnoth: Jyrki Vesterinen wesnoth:master 1383635ff080 / src/gui/dialogs/addon/manager.cpp: Enable Pango markup in the error message if uploading an add-on fails https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/1383635ff0804833169370141db77b573d7db94d
20171010 17:24:38< Necrosporus> zookeeper, is there any convention about trait order, such as "loyal comes first"?
20171010 17:40:04< shadowm> Necrosporus: I'd appreciate it if you stopped assuming I don't know how to do simple file operations on the server I admin, thanks.
20171010 17:41:17< Necrosporus> shadowm, then I wonder, do you know any easier way to do it? rsync perhaps?
20171010 17:41:28< shadowm> I am not going to do it.
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20171010 17:54:17< irker464> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth:master cd2359699300 / data/tools/ (addon_manager/html.py wesnoth_addon_manager): wam: Add --datadir option to set the path to the Wesnoth data dir https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/cd235969930003c6386cb7d7d7412356af69f2c7
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20171010 18:30:05< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#15247 (master - cb5de97 : Alexander van Gessel): The build has errored.
20171010 18:30:05< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/286122448
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20171010 19:08:18< Necrosporus> This solution is better than copying files
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20171010 19:12:18< travis-ci> wesnoth/wesnoth#15248 (master - 1383635 : Jyrki Vesterinen): The build has errored.
20171010 19:12:18< travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth/builds/286140914
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20171010 19:43:53< irker464> wesnoth: Severin Glöckner wesnoth:master 04117d95e2ab / data/core/images/units/human-magi/ (8 files): remove leftover images from old white mage sprite https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/04117d95e2ab8145a7257867c742365df5ce42e1
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20171010 19:52:34< zookeeper> sevu, if you want to be nice, you might want to tell the author of the 1.13 "Trader" add-on about that removal.
20171010 19:53:40< sevu> zookeeper, okay
20171010 19:54:31< zookeeper> and on 1.12, Missing_Scepter, Girl_unDead and Save_The_Village.
20171010 19:55:22< sevu> So many people use it still? o.O I thought it would be safe to remove
20171010 19:56:13< zookeeper> obsolete versions of animations like that have typically been left in as a template for anyone who might want to update them to match new sprites, but then again there's next to no animation progress anymore, so...
20171010 19:57:38< zookeeper> and yes, those kinds of frames are sometimes used as items or parts of icons or whatever.
20171010 20:00:37< sevu> I see. The part with animations template sounds like a good point though
20171010 20:00:59< sevu> I thought it had just been forgotten. 
20171010 20:06:31< zookeeper> nah, if we had a policy of just removing all animation frames that aren't currently used, someone would have cleaned them up plenty of times already.
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20171010 20:11:40< sevu> I think its better to revert it, Era of Death could make some use of it too
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20171010 21:09:39< irker464> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth:master 3c0e873e8487 / changelog: Update changelog https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/3c0e873e8487dbbb9033dc1612bc2bab17d0a478
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20171010 21:33:56< vultraz> *pokes mattsc *
20171010 21:34:49 * mattsc flinches, then goes back to his meeting
20171010 21:35:24< vultraz> ah, nevermind
20171010 21:35:41< mattsc> What’s up, vultraz?  I can pay attention with half an eye.
20171010 21:36:20< vultraz> was just wondering if you considered handling an [ai] hidden= key in ai::configuration::get_available_ais() sufficient or whether other parts of the engine need to know about the key
20171010 21:38:05< mattsc> vultraz: I really have no idea.  Just from the name of that function, that sounds about right, but things are often more interconnected than I am aware of.
20171010 21:38:15< mattsc> That’s really a question for celmin.
20171010 21:42:24< irker464> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth:master b2df837d8e7a / data/ai/ais/idle_ai.cfg src/ai/configuration.cpp: Hide AIs with hidden=yes from list of available AI options (fixes #2095) https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/b2df837d8e7a95ae2e15dcbdffbd0653ab481443
20171010 21:42:35< vultraz> if celmin finds it insufficient I'll do more
20171010 21:42:43< vultraz> that works for the immediate case
20171010 21:43:10< mattsc> vultraz: Cool, that was quick!
20171010 21:43:16< vultraz> was trivial :)
20171010 21:44:00< mattsc> I once had somebody with a Ph.D. in maths tell me that every problem is either trivial or impossible.  :)
20171010 21:44:17< vultraz> t'is true
20171010 21:49:11< EliDupree> haha yes we mathematicians are a riot
20171010 21:49:36< mattsc> vultraz: I guess one could argue that the idle AI should still be available in debug mode.  That’s how it was before.  But frankly, I am not sure that either behavior is preferrable over the other.
20171010 21:50:00< mattsc> In other words, I am okay with it being done either way.
20171010 21:51:38< vultraz> such a thing is a single if() block away if we wanted it
20171010 21:51:38< mattsc> Right.  I don’t know if we want it.
20171010 21:51:44< vultraz> speaking of which, why does the idle ai need a stage tag with name=empty instead of just omitting it altogether?
20171010 21:52:15< vultraz> (heading to breakfast will read later)
20171010 21:52:50< mattsc> vultraz: explained here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth/commit/cfb2aa8050
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20171010 21:54:19< mattsc> I think (not 100% certain though) that that’s a result of celmin’s AI refactoring some releases ago.
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20171010 22:28:41< vultraz> hmmm
20171010 22:28:42< vultraz> I SEE
20171010 22:29:40< vultraz> i guess that makes sense
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